Gordon Gray Wrote:I imagine these issues have been discussed ad nauseam, so please bear with me 1) Who was the man seen walking west on 10th a couple of blocks north of Ruby's apt. around 1M that witnesses mistook for Oswald, where was he headed, and why did he shoot Tippet? 2) Greer: did he come to a virtual stop because he was in on the plot; did he just screw up in his hangover confused haze and hit the brakes instead of the gas; or was he just following orders? If he hits the gas the President is most likely not mortally wounded. To what degree was the SS penetrated by the conspirators? Be interested to hear people's thoughts and be directed to some good source material.
1)
Tippit was one of the few people who could put Ruby and Oswald together AND was involved, or would be involved in some way... If the Mafia was involved in this portion of the game, one would think that setting Tippit up and in turn Oswald as a cop-killer AND POTUS assassin... the DPD might just shoot first, ask question later. THE Oswald entered the theater around 1pm... Tippit's killer leads everyone to the same theater... was the revolver pointed at Oswald or MacDonald at the time it went SNAP? Oswald the cop killer allows an easier transition into Phase 2... the deranged Nut.
From ALL the evidence available it it virtually impossible to conclude that Oswald, Ruby's Oswald, was the man who killed Tippit.
The timing, the actual witness statements and add-ons, the time of death, the uncalled witnesses, the jacket... etc.
Not a soul sees Oswald make the trip from his house, anywhere.. (I've theorized that the honking police car actually took Oswald to the theater while "someone" drops the killer off near Neely and Beckley (as opposed to Neches and Beckley which Whaley says over and over and is NOT a street corner)
2)
Not really sure how this will of can ever be answered to anyone's satisfaction... (I remember reading a story that Greer was selected as the driver since he had a history of BRAKING in emergencies... I cannot find the source so take it with a grain of salt... but that memory shines bright...) While he testifies to believing in three shots from behind... one possibility is that he KNEW and SAW a shot from the front and stopped approaching the danger as he realized it... but it is not so much the STOP as much as the severe slowing of the limo after the turn onto Elm... For Hill to have made that run in the time and frames offered requires the limo and SS car to be moving at less than 3mph... (and yes it is my opinion that Nix and Muchmore are not the original in-camera images captured and that for the assassiantion sequence at least, Zap was filming in slo motion - 48fps which was cut down to an 18.3fps smooth moving vehicle)
I'd suggest you read Survivor's Guilt... or any of Vince's work... I think you will find the reading facinating and nobody covers the SS like Vince.
http://vincepalamarasecretserviceexpert....-arrb.html
DJ
The following agents believed that there was a conspiracy involved in
JFK's death (I use past tense only because most of them are now
deceased):
1)Samuel A. Kinney- Sam told me this three times (he also stated that he
found the notion of conspiracy "plausible" to the HSCA, based offf the
recently-released contact reports available thru the ARRB/ Archives). He
thought Oswald was the lone shooter, although he stated emphatically
that there were no missed shots (!)- he spoke to Connally about this and
THE GOVERNOR AGREED WITH SAM! Sam also told me that the "right rear" of
JFK's head was missing[he later recovered THE piece of the president's
head on the C-130], and that his windshield (of the follow-up car) and
left arm were splattered with blood and brain matter. Finally, whether
hyperbole or not, Sam said "He had no brains left". Sam passed away
7/21/97 while vacationing in Iowa. His wife Hazel told me she regretted
that Sam is now forever unable to tell more...;
2) Roy H. Kellerman- According to his widow June, Roy "accepted that
there was a conspiracy"- this was based on June overhearing Roy's
telephone conversation with someone from the HSCA in approx. 1977 or
1978. As we all know, Roy stated to the WC that "there has to be more
than three shots, gentleman" and that a "flurry of shells" came into the
car. Like Bill Greer, Roy is often added to the list of those witnesses
who reported that the right rear of JFK's head was blasted. The above
information was reported to author Anthony Summers for the Dec. 1994
VANITY FARE, p. 88 [uncredited]; you'll also find it in my book.
Finally, Kellerman's daughter told Harold Weisberg in the 1970's that "I
hope the day will come when these men [Kellerman and Greer*]will be able
to say what they've told their families";
3) Abraham W. Bolden, Sr,- Abe is a firm believer in a conspiracy AND in
Secret Service negligence. Also, Abe is adamant that there was a plot to
kill JFK in Chicago in early November, 1963. I spoke to Bolden twice and
corresponded at length with him between 1993 and the present. bolden is
currently working on his own book with his wife
;
4) Maurice G. Martineau- Abe's boss in the Chicago office, Martineau was
equally adamant to me that a conspiracy took the life of President
Kennedy. He aso told me he finds the work of the HSCA much more valid
than that of the WC. However, when it comes to info. on the Chicago
plot, Martineau is afraid to give me details to this day...;
5) John Norris- a member of the uniformed division of the Secret
Service, Norris is a fervent believer in a conspiracy, although one gets
the impression this is more based on his beliefs than actual knowledge,
but I could be mistaken. Still, his views and beliefs are important for
obvious reasons;
6) *Bill Greer- despite many suspicions I have about Greer's conduct on
11/22-11/23/63, he is a "default" addition to this list. In addition to
Kellerman's daughter's comments mentioned above, he is also among those
witnesses who, at least indirectly, gave testimony that the right rear
of JFK's head was missing. Also, to the HSCA, he had much misgivings
about the Single Bullet Theory. Still, this could just be guilty
conscience- he expressed much guilt to Jackie Kennedy concerning his
awful performance on Elm Street (which he would later deny to the FBI
and the WC; even Greer's son Richard was adamant to me that his father
had absolutely no survivor's guilt, despite these documented, very early
guilt feelings. Even Dave Poers and Ken O'donnell document Greer's early
remorse ["Johnny, We Hardly Knew Ye'; see also Powers interview by
Charles Kuralt, 11/22/88 on video];
Also, Paul E. Landis, Jr., an agent in the follow-up car who, like agent
Hill, was assigned to Jackie, stated twice that shots came from the
front [18H755; 18H759];
In addition, agent Thomas "Lem" Johns, who rode in the V.P. follow-up
car, told the HSCA that "the first two [shots] sounded like they were on
the side of me towards the grassy knoll" [RIF 180-10074-10079];
Finally, SAIC of the Dallas office Forrest V. Sorrels, riding in the
lead car, believed the shots came from the front [Mark Lane's "Rush to
Judgement" film- interview with Orville Nix, a good friend of Sorrels'
who worked in the Dallas office as a maintenance worker]. I spoke very
briefly to Sorrels on two occasions in 1992, a year before he died- he
would not clarify anything...
Vince Palamara