The CIA responds to Seymour Hersh (via MinnPost)
By Eric Black | Published Thu, Mar 12 2009 1:53 pm
"Utter nonsense," is the quote from CIA spokester George Little.
In case you're out of context, I wrote yesterday about comments famed investigative reporter Seymour Hersh made Tuesday night at the U of M, which included a description of a story he is working on that he said would show that "the Central Intelligence Agency was very deeply involved in domestic activities against people they thought to be enemies of the state. Without any legal authority for it. They haven’t been called on it yet. That does happen."
CIA spokester Little emailed me:
"I saw your story on Seymour Hersh’s recent allegations regarding CIA activities since 9/11. If you wish, you can attribute the quoted portion that follows to me, in name, as a CIA spokesman:
'This is utter nonsense.'"
I spoke to Little to clarify whether he was aware of the basis for Hersh's statement (which I am not, only that it's based on his reporting) or whether he was categorically stating that nothing the CIA has done post-9/11 could be reasonably characterized as domestic activities against people they thought to be enemies of the state. He said it was a categorical denial. He doesn't know what Hersh claims, but
any claim that the CIA has engaged in domestic spying is "complete and utter nonsense," said Little on behalf of the CIA. :trytofly:
http://www.minnpost.com/ericblackblog/20...a_minnpost
Well, I guess that settles that! :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
Well, they would say that, wouldn't they?
:hahaha:
Peter Lemkin Wrote:The CIA responds to Seymour Hersh (via MinnPost)
By Eric Black | Published Thu, Mar 12 2009 1:53 pm
"Utter nonsense," is the quote from CIA spokester George Little.
In case you're out of context, I wrote yesterday about comments famed investigative reporter Seymour Hersh made Tuesday night at the U of M, which included a description of a story he is working on that he said would show that "the Central Intelligence Agency was very deeply involved in domestic activities against people they thought to be enemies of the state. Without any legal authority for it. They haven’t been called on it yet. That does happen."
CIA spokester Little emailed me:
"I saw your story on Seymour Hersh’s recent allegations regarding CIA activities since 9/11. If you wish, you can attribute the quoted portion that follows to me, in name, as a CIA spokesman:
'This is utter nonsense.'"
Ah, a non-denial denial. In other words what Sy Hersh claims has just been confirmed by the CIA.
One thing about the CIA - they rarely confirm or deny anything. They must be worried about this one. They didn't 'deal' with the other part of Hersh's statement - that Chaney ran death-squads......but I'd bet there's internal concern over that - whether they were involved or some other nightmare agency or off-the-shelf was. They are all brothers in the great battle to destroy Democracy and the US Constitution and Law - for the Corporate Elite [which they are the 'Preatorian Guard' for]
Keep in mind that 'mainstream CIA does not even know what type of operations their CAG (Covert Action Groups) are associated with..., military ops and Pentagon joint military CIA operations. There are very good people working within CIA BUT most of these people have no clue as to what is really going on in those Secret classified NSC Whitehouse operations. Its been that way even before JFK. I know I was part of those operations and Seymour Hersh knows this.
(note) Most of the time the CIA works logistical support for 'Black Budget Operations" (of the books operations) and never knows the real purpose of the operations or who is in charge of those Ops. These Ops are usually controled within the Pentagon and Whitehouse and in some cases by the NSC. Example the Iran Contra affair of twenty plus years ago; not to mention the JFK matter.
P.S. I have been told by a source who works with JSOC of the Pentagon that this CIA spoksman is not a authorized spokesman for the CIA. Check him out. What is his title and position with the CIA?
YOU CAN SEND ALL MY POSTINGS TO THE CIA IF YOU LIKE.
Point taken Tosh. When most of us use the term 'CIA' we mean the covert action arm. I have no problem with the analysts and others bringing info in about the world. It is those messin' around with lives, countries and such. I realize many there don't know what they are working on - that kind of need-to-know and deniability is built-in. When we say CIA we also usually mean those covert ops done by the other groups you have mentioned and some you have not - as a kind of shorthand. Perhaps we should be more exacting. Prouty made it pretty clear to me how it operated then between agencies, and I doubt if it has changed a lot. But thanks for the fine tuning.
Interesting you think Little might be smaller than that!
Peter Lemkin Wrote:Point taken Tosh. When most of us use the term 'CIA' we mean the covert action arm. I have no problem with the analysts and others bringing info in about the world. It is those messin' around with lives, countries and such. I realize many there don't know what they are working on - that kind of need-to-know and deniability is built-in. When we say CIA we also usually mean those covert ops done by the other groups you have mentioned and some you have not - as a kind of shorthand. Perhaps we should be more exacting. Prouty made it pretty clear to me how it operated then between agencies, and I doubt if it has changed a lot. But thanks for the fine tuning.
Interesting you think Little might be smaller than that!
Thanks Pete: The shadow government, if you want to call it that, works through the CIA and other agencies in a very sensitive top secret arena) which is in direct contact with the Whitehouise and the NSC. (specialized operations) How many times have you heard me tell you and others, "... it was not a CIA operation....The CIA only worked as logistical support for our crews". Military covert operations and CIA covert operations are not the same, althought they sometimes work together in the same OPS., using cut-out of a, "civilian nature".
Peter Lemkin Wrote:The CIA responds to Seymour Hersh (via MinnPost)
By Eric Black | Published Thu, Mar 12 2009 1:53 pm
"Utter nonsense," is the quote from CIA spokester George Little.
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I'm of the mind that Sy Hersh is nothing but a mouthpiece for the CIA ("The Dark Side of Camelot" for example). So if he said something the CIA must have wanted it said, in spite of their public declarations.
He certainly gets a lot of his 'leaks' and tidbits of information from 'inside' sources......I'm not sure they are always happy with what he writes, but if they were overall very unhappy, of course they'd not feed him any more leads. Here, again, I think we are need to think of the 'intelligence community' not as a total bloc. There are factions and factional fights - groups trying to topple or harm other groups or their operations. He is likely on some groups friendly list - but maybe not all groups.
Peter Lemkin Wrote:He certainly gets a lot of his 'leaks' and tidbits of information from 'inside' sources......I'm not sure they are always happy with what he writes, but if they were overall very unhappy, of course they'd not feed him any more leads. Here, again, I think we are need to think of the 'intelligence community' not as a total bloc. There are factions and factional fights - groups trying to topple or harm other groups or their operations. He is likely on some groups friendly list - but maybe not all groups.
That's a good point. I do tend to think of them as a single cohesive entity.