Quote:Suspicions about the bank's links to the CIA arose almost immediately after Nugan was found dead. His wallet contained the business card of William E. Colby, who had been director of the CIA from 1973 to 1976.
Some thing that I was not aware of was that Frank Nugan had underlined particular passages in his bible found in the car with him. You may have seen this in the 60 Minutes segment. It seems clear from the passages he was underlining that he was indicating he was forced to take his own life because some one was making threats to kills his children and family. Plus the weapon had been wiped of finger prints. A very odd thing to do if you are committing 'suicide'.
Magda Hassan Wrote:Quote:Suspicions about the bank's links to the CIA arose almost immediately after Nugan was found dead. His wallet contained the business card of William E. Colby, who had been director of the CIA from 1973 to 1976.
Some thing that I was not aware of was that Frank Nugan had underlined particular passages in his bible found in the car with him. You may have seen this in the 60 Minutes segment. It seems clear from the passages he was underlining that he was indicating he was forced to take his own life because some one was making threats to kills his children and family. Plus the weapon had been wiped of finger prints. A very odd thing to do if you are committing 'suicide'.
I had the impression that the passages were underlined by someone else as a warning to him.
Lauren Johnson Wrote:Magda Hassan Wrote:Quote:Suspicions about the bank's links to the CIA arose almost immediately after Nugan was found dead. His wallet contained the business card of William E. Colby, who had been director of the CIA from 1973 to 1976.
Some thing that I was not aware of was that Frank Nugan had underlined particular passages in his bible found in the car with him. You may have seen this in the 60 Minutes segment. It seems clear from the passages he was underlining that he was indicating he was forced to take his own life because some one was making threats to kills his children and family. Plus the weapon had been wiped of finger prints. A very odd thing to do if you are committing 'suicide'.
I had the impression that the passages were underlined by someone else as a warning to him.
Of course that is possible too. Wonder if they checked the bible for prints?
Quote:Of course that is possible too. Wonder if they checked the bible for prints?
I understand Chief Inspector Clouseau was the the guy in charge of the investigation. He couldn't have missed the chance to break the case wide open.
I've just been told according to the police they believe it was Frank Nugan who underlined the bible passages.
Magda Hassan Wrote:I've just been told according to the police they believe it was Frank Nugan who underlined the bible passages.
Even if it was [and I'm not totally convinced], I don't see where it follows that he committed suicide. They give courses in 'unconventional warfare' schools on how to make a murder look like a suicide. Why would the gun be wiped clean, and how does one do that after they shoot themselves? Even the location of the car [a small mining town, I believe, to which Nugan would have no business to be in] is suspicious. I'm sure Ozzie intelligence agents friendly to CIA kept what police work there was on this case from making any progress or reporting things correctly in the press, etc. They might even be doing this still. It wouldn't take the entire service - just a select few - to obstruct this being solved or anything being done about it. These same 'folks' had other secrets to protect too that were connected in various ways with the Bank and the people connected to the Bank. The Australian Intelligence as a whole likely felt it was best to let it just not be dug into, otherwise they'd be in bad with Big Brother for intelligence, funding and Five Eyes stuff....not to mention their roles in the overthrow of the government, Pine Gap, allowing Nugan-Hand stuff to go on when they knew exactly what it was all about, Indochina War horrors they participated in, and more. ::trenchcoatspy::
Peter Lemkin Wrote:IN PLAIN SIGHT
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FOUND After 35 Years: CIA's Fugitive Banker
How Michael Jon Hand, who founded an Australian bank with ties to American military and intelligence officials that defrauded depositors and investors, was tracked to Idaho.
By Raymond Bonner, Special to ProPublica
It was one of the greatest disappearing acts of modern times.
Amid a swirl of allegations and rumors that the Nugan Hand Bank was involved in arms smuggling, drug-running, and covert operations for the CIA, the institution's American founder vanished from Australia. Thirty-five years later, that man, Michael Jon Hand, was tracked to a small town in Idaho where he has been living under the name of Michael Jon Fuller.
Hand was found by an Australian writer, Peter Butt, whose just-released book, Merchants of Menace, discloses Hand's whereabouts after decades of mystery.
If finding Hand, now 73, solves one mystery, it raises another. How could he have lived in the United States so long without being detected? He changed his name only slightly, from Hand to Fuller, and did not get a new Social Security number, according to Butt.
Hand's company, G.M.I. Manufacturing, is registered with the Idaho secretary of state. The company "now manufactures tactical weapons for US Special Forces, special operations groups and hunters,'' Butt writes. Has Hand/Fuller been brazen, foolish, or, as Butt asks, does he belong "to a protected species, most likely of the intelligence kind?"
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Two years after fleeing Australia, in 1982, when the CIA was involved in a covert operation to overthrow the left-wing Sandinista government in Nicaragua, Hand was working as a military adviser in the region where the anti-Sandinista "contras" were based, according to an Australian intelligence document, which was declassified earlier this year.
The FBI did not immediately respond to a request for comment. The CIA has previously denied it had any links to Hand.
Hand had been a Green Beret in Vietnam and a CIA operative in Laos before moving to Australia, where he and Frank Nugan, a wealthy playboy, established the Nugan Hand Bank in 1973, with $80. Hand fled Australia seven years later, after Nugan was found dead inside his Mercedes-Benz, his left hand holding the barrel of a .30-caliber rifle a few inches from his head, his right hand near the trigger.
During an inquest into Nugan's death, Hand testified that the bank was insolvent, owing investors large and small some $50 million. The inquest ruled Nugan's death a suicide, a finding many Australians found dubious.
With depositors and law enforcement authorities in pursuit, Hand, with assistance from a former CIA officer, secured a forged Australian passport, donned a false mustache and beard, and fled Australia in June of 1980. He flew to Fiji, then on to Canada, from which he could cross into the United States without a visa.
The Sydney Morning Herald first reported on Butt's findings on Monday. In a segment that aired Sunday night, Australia's 60 Minutes filmed Hand/Fuller emerging from a pharmacy at a shopping mall in Idaho Falls. He has a full beard and neck brace, and was wearing sunglasses and a blue checked shirt. He refused to answer any questions or speak at all when confronted by 60 Minutes reporter Ross Coulthart.
Suspicions about the bank's links to the CIA arose almost immediately after Nugan was found dead. His wallet contained the business card of William E. Colby, who had been director of the CIA from 1973 to 1976.
Hand told colleagues that it was his ambition that the bank "become a banker for the CIA."
Colby was forced to resign when it was reported that the agency had been engaged in illegal spying on American citizens. He became a legal adviser to Nugan Hand, and on the back of his business card were handwritten dates when someone, presumably Colby, would be in Hong Kong and Singapore.
As reporters began digging into Nugan Hand, they found that Colby wasn't the only individual with an intelligence or military background involved with the bank.
"Nugan Hand had enough generals, admirals, and spooks to run a small war," Jonathan Kwitny, an investigative reporter at The Wall Street Journal, wrote in the definitive book about the bank,The Crimes of Patriots: A True Tale of Dope, Dirty Money, and the CIA.
The president was a retired Navy admiral; the head of the Manila branch, a retired Air Force general; the head of the Washington office, a retired Army general; another retired Army general ran the office in Hawaii.
In a review of Kwitny's book in The New York Times, Howard Blum asks: "Why were so many honorable men working for such a blatantly corrupt organization?"
Several former CIA operatives also had links to the bank of one kind or another, including Frank Terpil and Edwin Wilson, who were indicted for selling explosives to Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi. (Terpil fled to Cuba, where he still lives**. Wilson, who was convicted and sentenced to prison, died in 2012.)
In Australia, the collapse of Nugan Hand was the subject of several high-level investigations in the 1980s. They found, generally, that the bank was engaged in money laundering, tax evasion, and violation of Australian banking laws. One investigation found links between Hand and the CIA, while another did not. At the time, Australian investigators complained about the lack of help from the FBI.
Hand, who was raised in the Bronx, studied forestry for a year before enlisting in the Army in 1963. He was sent to Vietnam, where he was awarded a Purple Heart, Silver Star, and the Distinguished Service Cross, the second-highest combat medal. At some point, he became a contractor operative for the CIA and did work for Air America, the agency's front airline, according to one of the Australian investigations.
He visited Sydney on "R&R""rest and recuperation," the once-yearly out for American soldiers in Vietnamand eventually emigrated. He hung out at the Bourbon and Beefsteak Bar, in King's Cross, then and now Sydney's seedy vice district, where he met Frank Nugan. They began selling real estate, primarily to American servicemen in Southeast Asia, then trading in silver bullion, before opening the bank.
Nugan wrote the bank a check for $980,000, then covered it by writing a bank check to himself for the same amount. "Through this elementary accounting fraud, Nugan could claim that the company's paid-up capital was a million dollars," Alfred W. McCoy writes in The Politics of Heroin: CIA Complicity in the Global Drug Trade.
From those humble and corrupt beginnings grew a global goliath that attracted investors with promises of 16 percent interest on deposits, in off-shore accounts. By 1979, Nugan Hand had 13 branches around the world, and many of its depositors were drug traffickers, according to Australian investigators.
Hand told colleagues that it was his ambition that the bank "become a banker for the CIA," according to the findings of one of the Australian investigations.
Efforts to reach Hand were unsuccessful. ::trenchcoatspy::
**That is news to me and very strange place for him to be.....!!! Must be quite a story behind that!
I enjoy the way the CIA resolutely deny any and everything to do with this. Years ago I obtained a 60 odd page deposition by General Erle Cocke, when he deposed shortly before his death. Cocke who was the guy in charge of Nugan Hand's Washington branch. In that deposition, which was on a different financial matter I had been chasing down, Cocke stated that every time he returned from a trip abroad he received a visit from two CIA guys to debrief him. Consequently I sent the CIA a FOIA request about Cocke. The reply I received was masterful in its wording:
"No records responsive to your request were identified.'
This was the guy who was also an Alternate Executive Director of the World Bank and a former US delegate to the United Nations where he held the rank and pay of a US Ambassador.
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Quote:Even if it was [and I'm not totally convinced], I don't see where it follows that he committed suicide. They give courses in 'unconventional warfare' schools on how to make a murder look like a suicide. Why would the gun be wiped clean, and how does one do that after they shoot themselves? Even the location of the car [a small mining town, I believe, to which Nugan would have no business to be in] is suspicious. I'm sure Ozzie intelligence agents friendly to CIA kept what police work there was on this case from making any progress or reporting things correctly in the press, etc. They might even be doing this still. It wouldn't take the entire service - just a select few - to obstruct this being solved or anything being done about it.
No. Clearly if some one has your family hostage and threatens to kill them unless you kill yourself and you are there trying to make sense of the last moments of your life as some psycho is there handing you a gun and showing you how to use it that is not suicide. It is your last act of love and selflessness under extreme pressure for those you love in your small pathetic life. I can imagine it being one last desperate way he was able to leave a clue, at least for his family if not the police. Recent reading today indicates that the gun used was too long for him to reach the trigger and shoot himself and he had his shoes and socks on so couldn't have used his feet. No other tool like a stick was found that could be used. The location is a side road in a small town south of Lithgow which is a pretty miserable coal mining town (now jail town since the coal is not so big there any more) The main road to Sydney is not far from the side road he was found on and Lithgow station is the end of the Sydney metro trains. So it is out of the way but not inaccessible to Sydney by any means.
Quote:After bank co-founder Frank Nugan was found shot dead with a rifle by his side in 1980 (an inquest found it was suicide), Michael Hand fled under a false name. A warrant was issued for his arrest in December 1980 for trying to pervert the course of justice.
He should still be charged with this. It is a serious charge.
Quote:However, an ASIO cable sent from the Australian embassy in Washington to "Scorpion" the code name for ASIO chief Harvey Barnett in December 1982 *reveals the agency had information on Hand's whereabouts.The cable said it had received information from an Australian police team sent to the US to chase Hand that he was employed "as a (US) military adviser to the Puma Battalion involved in the Honduras/Nicaragua dispute".
"Hand said to be stationed on Mosquito Coast at Durzana, eight KMS south of the Mocoran refugee camp and to be known to * ** *Col*onel Jose Serra Herandes and Ricadicgo Pabillar, both prominent political figures," it said.
The cable said the Australian police had asked the FBI for help, but it could not assist. It says ASIO then told the police it "doubted" it could help bring Hand to justice because "ASIO had no direct liaison in Honduras/Nicaragua region and also there was no Australian embassy there".
FFS! Could they come up with any weaker statement?
Quote:At that time, the CIA and Washington were increasing military assistance and training to Honduras to exert as much pressure as possible on the left-wing Sandinista government in neighbouring Nicaragua. If Hand was helping to train elite troops of the Puma Battalion in Honduras, he would almost *certainly have been working for the US government and possibly the CIA. The CIA has always *denied it employed Hand.The suspicion that intelligence agencies went cold on prosecuting Hand was reinforced in 1991 when The Eye magazine reported that Hand was believed to be living in a suburb in Washington state.
It even published his alleged *address 1075 Bellevue Way but the revelation generated no *interest from Australian authorities despite an arrest warrant still being in place.
"The fact that Hand has been allowed to live the free life in the United States suggests he belongs to a protected species, most likely of the intelligence kind," Butt said.
William Colby, CIA director from 1972-76, and who became a legal adviser to Nugan Hand Bank, was found face down in the water on a solo canoe trip in 1996.
I'm just stepping outside for a bit. I may be some time....Said Colby before he paddled off in his canoe late one night.
Quote:An Australian Securities & *Investments Commission spokesman said: "ASIC does not comment on operational issues, but notes that this matter is well over three *decades old and we would need to satisfy ourselves any investigation benefited the public interest."
The Australian Federal Police declined to say if it would investigate, but said it would assess the new information.
The lukewarm reaction to the discovery of Hand this week will only fuel speculation intelligence agencies have deliberately gone dead on bringing the former US special forces Vietnam veteran to justice.
Former NSW Liberal leader and jurist John Dowd QC yesterday suggested the fact that ASIO's Cold War ally the CIA was allegedly involved might have lessened Australian authorities' eagerness to pursue Hand. "It may just have been inertia or maybe we were not upset about what the CIA were doing," he told The Australian.
In the late 1970s, Mr Dowd launched his own investigation of Nugan Hand, travelling to Chiang Mai in Thailand, where he discovered the bank had an *office next door to the US Drug Enforcement Administration.
Mr Dowd said "the British * *Sec*ret Service sent somebody" to *interview him about what he had discovered about Nugan Hand.
"They probably knew it was a CIA operation and they were interested in following what the Americans were doing," Mr Dowd said. "Hand got them (the CIA) interested in moving money for various purposes."
Mr Dowd said he believed that Australian and US authorities should still go after Hand now his whereabouts were again known.
"It was $50m, a lot of it Australian," Mr Dowd said. "A crime is a crime is a crime."
Pleased to see some one with some status in this is pushing for charges to be pursued.
So is there an active warrant for Hand from Australia or not?