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Julian Assange, Vladimir Putin and James Comey rigged the 2016 election and I will never accept this scumbag as my Prez.
Cliff Varnell Wrote:Julian Assange, Vladimir Putin and James Comey rigged the 2016 election and I will never accept this scumbag as my Prez.

You should go over to DailyKos where you could make some really great friends.

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Lauren Johnson Wrote:
Cliff Varnell Wrote:Julian Assange, Vladimir Putin and James Comey rigged the 2016 election and I will never accept this scumbag as my Prez.

You should go over to DailyKos where you could make some really great friends.

:Confusedtampfeet:::Confusedtampfeet:::Confusedtampfeet::::fury::::pullhairout::

They won't let me in! They don't allow deep analysis.

I miss Firedoglake!

Hillary doesn't have the votes in Wisconsin to become President, btw.

Assange, Putin, Comey plus CNN, MSNBC, and FOX waged a character assassination of Hillary Clinton.

People couldn't take any more about the e-mails. It was just hammered constantly for a year and a half.

Over nothing.
Quote:They won't let me in! They don't allow deep analysis.


You don't suppose it would have anything to do with these guys?::reactiongi:::Viking:::throwbomb:::Confusedtampfeet::::headexplode::::hobbyhorse::
Lauren Johnson Wrote:
Quote:They won't let me in! They don't allow deep analysis.


You don't suppose it would have anything to do with these guys?::reactiongi:::Viking:::throwbomb:::Confusedtampfeet::::headexplode::::hobbyhorse::

No, we need two towers falling straight down at free-fall speed.

Firedoglake was great...sigh.

Elizabeth Warren 2020.
Cliff Varnell Wrote:Julian Assange, Vladimir Putin and James Comey rigged the 2016 election and I will never accept this scumbag as my Prez.

That is one of the craziest conspiracies ever concocted. Assange is no Russian agent. Comey hates the Russians. Angry lower middle class whites who usually do not vote came out for Trump because he voiced the concern of their real pain. I just don't think, as I'm sure you also do not, that Trump will really address those pains. He will at best scapegoat all minority groups and sew hate in all directions. The Russians did not hack the emails that showed Clinton to be sleazy...and it doesn't matter who did...the emails speak for themselves. Trump has as many skeletons of different types in his closet, but they were not covered by the Presstitutes, as he was their cash cow over the last year. It is all more complex than you make it. Trump is a neo-fascist and no-nothing. He is a racist, sexist, mobbed-up, a cheat, dishonest, a sociopath if not psychopath. He also knows nothing about running a country and it is NOT run like as shady corporation. Add to that he is a liar too [as is Clinton] and made promises he can't even imagine how to fulfill. Having a President endorsed by the KKK and white Nationalist groups should worry everyone, worldwide, but non-whites and illegal immigrants, progressives and those who challenge the structures from the Left should really be living in fear - and I would imagine millions of them will get out of the USA before the inauguration. I agree with you it is a travesty, but not caused by the names you mentioned - at all! It is all internal stuff - nothing external. Comey and the ultra-rightwing FBI is the only group you mention I think deserve some guilt for the result...but even they didn't make the final difference. People are hurting and saw Trump as the best, or only, way to say 'fuck you' to the powers that be. That said, i don't think they will soon be happy with Trump. As progressives who backed Obama were sold out, I soon think those that backed Trump will be too. The Nation has certainly reverted to much uglier times of overt racism, sexism, hate of the 'other', hate of progressives and those that question American policies, etc. Your analysis is flawed IMO...you are blaming the wrong entities - except for the FBI.

Ich Bin ein Crimean.

I thank God I have no uterus at risk of government control, and that I am not a young man. I weep for the fate of my younger countrymen, the residents of the Baltic states,
Ukraine, and all non-Christians and non-caucasians the world over.
Peter Lemkin Wrote:
Cliff Varnell Wrote:Julian Assange, Vladimir Putin and James Comey rigged the 2016 election and I will never accept this scumbag as my Prez.

That is one of the craziest conspiracies ever concocted. .

"Time out, Green Bay, save that fuckin' bullshit for the tourists." -- Quentin Tarantino.

I didn't say anything about a conspiracy among these entities. Julian Assange, Vladimir Putin, James Comey, CNN, MSNBC, and Fox -- for their own motivations -- collectively assassinated the character of Hillary Clinton.

The American people collectively could not take any more talk about the e-mails.

We were battered and worn out and like anyone subject to torture will do anything to make it stop.

Including electing a pedophile rapist as corrupt as any who walked the earth.
Cliff Varnell Wrote:.......
We were battered and worn out and like anyone subject to torture will do anything to make it stop.

Including electing a pedophile rapist as corrupt as any who walked the earth.

He is but a carnival barker, a sideshow. Pence and the party are the mullahs to truly fear, along with the dead ender, hangers on who will have executive authority, and the judges and justices to be appointed in the image and likeness of Scalia in the new rural reich. Blue lives matter, now.
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Peter Lemkin Wrote:
Cliff Varnell Wrote:Julian Assange, Vladimir Putin and James Comey rigged the 2016 election and I will never accept this scumbag as my Prez.

That is one of the craziest conspiracies ever concocted. Assange is no Russian agent. Comey hates the Russians. Angry lower middle class whites who usually do not vote came out for Trump because he voiced the concern of their real pain.

Bollocks. In the primaries the average earnings of a Trump voter was 70 grand a year. His voters were regular Republican voters.

The American people elected Trump because they couldn't take the Hillary e-mail narrative any longer.


I just don't think, as I'm sure you also do not, that Trump will really address those pains. He will at best scapegoat all minority groups and sew hate in all directions. The Russians did not hack the emails that showed Clinton to be sleazy

You don't know that.


...and it doesn't matter who did...

"It doesn't matter who shot JFK."

An assassination of a political figure always matters.


the emails speak for themselves.

Yep, and all ya got is Hillary selling access to Dow Chemical absent a quid pro quo.

The whole e-mail thing was a witch-hunt, a political assassination.


Trump has as many skeletons of different types in his closet, but they were not covered by the Presstitutes,

They make too much money off him!

Who won this election?

Julian Assange, Vladimir Putin, James Comey, CNN, MSNBC, and Fox.

And now it's our job to organize and take our country back from these traitors.


as he was their cash cow over the last year. It is all more complex than you make it.

How so?


Trump is a neo-fascist and no-nothing. He is a racist, sexist, mobbed-up, a cheat, dishonest, a sociopath if not psychopath. He also knows nothing about running a country and it is NOT run like as shady corporation. Add to that he is a liar too [as is Clinton]

There you go, repeating Dominionist talking points.

She didn't lie about her e-mail, she didn't lie about Benghazi.

About her e-mails she told the American people exactly what she told the FBI, and Comey made clear she didn't lie to the FBI.

Under pressure Comey admitted any reasonable person would have made the same mistakes Clinton did.

It was a railroad job, a fascist witchhunt.


and made promises he can't even imagine how to fulfill. Having a President endorsed by the KKK and white Nationalist groups should worry everyone, worldwide, but non-whites and illegal immigrants, progressives and those who challenge the structures from the Left should really be living in fear

I forgive y'all for not standing up to Trump on election day but will all the Hillary haters now join as we stand up to Trump?

- and I would imagine millions of them will get out of the USA before the inauguration. I agree with you it is a travesty, but not caused by the names you mentioned - at all! It is all internal stuff - nothing external. Comey and the ultra-rightwing FBI is the only group you mention I think deserve some guilt for the result...but even they didn't make the final difference. People are hurting and saw Trump as the best, or only, way to say 'fuck you' to the powers that be. That said, i don't think they will soon be happy with Trump. As progressives who backed Obama were sold out, I soon think those that backed Trump will be too. The Nation has certainly reverted to much uglier times of overt racism, sexism, hate of the 'other', hate of progressives and those that question American policies, etc. Your analysis is flawed IMO...you are blaming the wrong entities

No, I'm blaming the provable perps.

This was treason aided and abetted by Julian Assange and Vladimir Putin. You trying to tell me they weren't openly pulling for Trump?

Spare me.

The 4th time in my life-time foreign actors have determined American elections -- always on behalf of Republicans.


- except for the FBI.

And a treasonous Republican Party.
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