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Just happened about 20 min. ago so very fuzzy and confused reports so far. One dead. Many injured [at least 14 reported injured] - perhaps other deaths, several separate [?] incidents - most likely two coordinated. Members of Parliament in lockdown, as is the area around it. Gunfire heard. One body covered as if dead on lawn before Parliament. Swarming with police and helicoptors. Report of man with knife who was shot by two plainclothes police. Another car that ran over multiple people, who are strewn on Parliament Bridge being treated or dead, and then [?] crashed into gate around Parliament. Now confirmed multiple deaths.

I don't see any sign it was false-flag at this point. One can always invent such a scenario, but I think caution not to do so without evidence is important. It makes those of us who work on such things look overly conspiratorial in our thinking, and doesn't reflect reality. There are both real and false-flag attacks in the World today. I like to wait to see how the evidence and story unfolds before making a 'call' on if it was likely a real event done in real anger/revenge or if false-flag. The real ones have no shortage of motive, with so many western countries in and/or supporting others in countries they have no business in, killing and destroying, etc. While if keeping 'score', I'm personally inclined to find that more of these kinds of attacks have at least some element of false-flag within them than not [LIHOP, MIHOP, intelligence connections, etc.], I still think not all have been false-flag and that one needs to be careful before calling one as such - to not alienate the majority of people who find false-flag operations almost too hard to imagine or believe.

One also needs, IMO, to distinguish carefully between completely synthetic false-flag events [which I class 911 in] and partial false-flag events, which are each different, but often involve one or more angry persons wanting to do real harm to citizens or a political structure - but are both willing to be killed [sometimes fooled into it], and manipulated into the MO, timing, location, weapons, explosives, arrest or more likely death, etc. 7/7 was IMO false-flag, likely in part. I'm not saying this one was not, I myself am just being cautious to call it so without more information and disinformation to sift through. I think those who see nothing BUT conspiracy and false-flags in everything do our work and our research community any service. Some may be honestly misguided, some overly zealous and some may be plants to discredit sites like this and researchers/analysts/students of such here and elsewhere.

I'm actually surprised they say only four have died out of the 40 injured, given the images and information I heard and saw...but maybe. Several of the injured are said to be severely injured.

The only possible anomaly I've seen so far is that the person who supposedly drove the car and stabbed the policeman, and who was subsequently shot was said to have been killed, yet there were images of him on a stretcher being given IV fluids and oxygen. Perhaps he died after that photo, although the wording of the police seemed to indicate he was shot dead at once - but such details are far less forthcoming [along with the identity of the person who supposedly committed the attack] than would be true if this had happened in the USA or many other countries.

This event marks exactly to the day the one year mark to one in Belgium.

Peter Lemkin Wrote:I don't see any sign it was false-flag at this point. .

::rofl::

There was a "drill" a few days ago.

They also found his passport...

There was also mannequins under the bus, I read somewhere...

Danny Jarman Wrote:

Peter Lemkin Wrote:I don't see any sign it was false-flag at this point. .

::rofl::

There was a "drill" a few days ago.

They also found his passport...

There was also mannequins under the bus, I read somewhere...

A fifteen minute search for any of the above information turned up nothing - which doesn't mean it is not somewhere. Several tourists and London citizens said they saw the woman under the bus and did not report a mannequin. I found nothing on a drill a few days ago, but again that doesn't rule one out. I saw noting on his passport either - again not saying anything either way. Few carry their passports with them unless on the way to or from an airport. Time will tell and I'm more than willing to call it whatever the evidence points to. It is early days and the dust has to clear.

Peter Lemkin Wrote:

Danny Jarman Wrote:

Peter Lemkin Wrote:I don't see any sign it was false-flag at this point. .

::rofl::

There was a "drill" a few days ago.

They also found his passport...

There was also mannequins under the bus, I read somewhere...

A fifteen minute search for any of the above information turned up nothing - which doesn't mean it is not somewhere. Several tourists and London citizens said they saw the woman under the bus and did not report a mannequin. I found nothing on a drill a few days ago, but again that doesn't rule one out. I saw noting on his passport either - again not saying anything either way. Few carry their passports with them unless on the way to or from an airport. Time will tell and I'm more than willing to call it whatever the evidence points to. It is early days and the dust has to clear.

Ditto. Let the evidence fall where it may.

There actually was an anti-terror drill in London 4 days ago:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/vide...ship-video

But the scenario is completely different to what happened at the parliament, so I do not see any evidence for a connection.

Carsten Wiethoff Wrote:There actually was an anti-terror drill in London 4 days ago:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/vide...ship-video

But the scenario is completely different to what happened at the parliament, so I do not see any evidence for a connection.

I'm sure if one could find out the frequency of different types of 'anti-terror' drills in a city the size of London it would average about or more than one per week. If, as on 7/7 it was near in time AND at least somewhat similar in scenario and location [on 7/7 it was almost exactly the same scenario and locations, and to be held on the same day!], then maybe there would be a connection.