02-12-2017, 12:39 AM
This is an excerpt from a mega-essay I am working on, DEATH OF THE LUNCHROOM HOAX. This material got overlooked and is critical to the discussion at hand. I inserted it early on in this essay. I don't mean to jump the gun, I probably won't have this work completed before February. But I hope people at least think about this material, in relation to the fashionable hoax theory.
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HOLMES' TESTIMONY
Postal Inspector Harry Holmes attended the last of Oswald's interrogations on Sunday morning November 24th. He took notes and arranged these into a 4-page memorandum on December 17th. Holmes often referred to this memorandum when he testified before the Warren Commission that April 2nd.
Holmes' memorandum and his testimony established, in Oswald's own words, that Oswald was upstairs in the building when the shooting took place. And shortly thereafter, as he went downstairs, he gave directions to a newsman looking for a telephone. That newsman's independent corroboration eliminates any possibility that Oswald was lying about his whereabouts.
As the memorandum notes:
When asked as to his whereabouts at the time of the shooting, he stated that when lunchtime came, and he didn't say which floor he was on, he said one of the Negro employees invited him to eat lunch with him and he said, "You go on down and send the elevator back up and I will join you in a few minutes." Before he could finish whatever he was doing, he stated, the commotion surrounding the assassination took place and when he went downstairs, a policeman questioned him as to his identification and his boss stated that "he is one of our employees" whereupon the policeman told him to step aside momentarily. Following this, he simply walked out the front door of the building.
Inspector Thomas Kelley of the Secret Service also attended the Sunday morning interrogation and noted an additional incident in his report:[Oswald] said when he was standing in front of the Textbook Building and about to leave it, a young crew-cut man rushed up to him and said he was from the Secret Service, showed a book of identification, and asked him where the phone was. Oswald said he pointed toward the pay phone in the building and that he saw the man actually go to the phone before he left.
[Photo & diagram of 1st-floor phone]
The phone inside was on a pillar beside Roy Truly's office; Oswald had to have stood inside the front lobby at the plate glass partition leading into the warehouse to watch this young crew-cut man go to this phone. The Secret Service investigated this incident and determined that Oswald was mistaken- the crew-cut man was actually WFAA news director Pierce Allman. Agent Roger Warner interviewed him on January 29th:
After the shots Allman had run from the corner of Houston & Elm down to the Newman family, who had thrown themselves to the ground near the grassy knoll. He soon "ran full speed into the Texas School Book Depository Building with the intention of locating a phone and calling his television station WFAA. Mr. Allman stated that after he had entered the front door of the building, he had emerged into a hallway and there he met a white male he could not further identify. He asked the white male for the location of a telephone... the person pointed out a phone to him which was located in an open area of the first floor...
During the above interview it was noted that Mr. Allman carries his press pass in a leather case similar to cases carried by Federal agents and police officers." And at 12:34 Allman gave the world the first news broadcast from Dealey Plaza.
Holmes' testimony expanded on his memorandum and corroborated the encounter with Allman:
HOLMES: Then he said when all this commotion started, "I just went on downstairs." And he didn't say whether he took the elevator or not. He said, "I went down, and as I started to go out and see what it was all about, a police officer stopped me just before I got to the front door and started to ask me some questions, and my superintendent of the place stepped up and told the officers that I am one of the employees of the building, so he told me to step aside for a little bit and we will get to you later. Then I just went on out into the crowd to see what it was all about."
BELIN: Did he say where he was at the time of the shooting?
HOLMES: He just said he was still up in the building when the commotion- he kind of-
...BELIN: Did Oswald say anything about seeing a man with a crewcut in front of the building as he was about to leave it? Do you remember anything about that?
HOLMES: No.
BELIN: You don't remember anything about that. Did he say anything about telling a man about going to a pay phone in the building?
HOLMES: Policeman rushed- I take it back- I don't know whether he said a policeman or not- a man came rushing by and said, "Where's your telephone?"
And the man showed some kind of credential and I don't know that he identified the credential, so he might not have been a police officer, and said I am so and so, and shoved something at me which I didn't look at and said, "Where is the telephone?"
And I said, "Right there" and just pointed in to the phone, and I went on out.
...And he didn't say what he was doing. There was a commotion outside, which he later rushed downstairs to go out and see what was going on. He didn't say whether he took the stairs down. He didn't say whether he took the elevator down. But he went downstairs, and as he went out the front, it seems as though he did have a coke with him, or stopped at the coke machine, or somebody else was trying to get a coke, but there was a coke involved.
He mentioned something about a coke. But a police officer asked him who he was, and just as he started to identify himself, his superintendent came up and said, "He is one of our men." And the policeman said, "Well, you step aside for a little bit."
Then another man rushed in past him as he started out the door, in this vestibule part of it, and flashed some kind of credential and he said, "Where is your telephone, where is your telephone, and said I am so and so, where is your telephone."
And he said, "I didn't look at the credential. I don't know who he said he was, and I just pointed to the phone and said, 'there it is,' and went on out the door."
If Holmes' testimony in any way supported the PrayerMan theory it would be shouted from the rooftops. But it directly contradicts that idea, and flatly suggests that Oswald had just been at the Coke machine in the 2nd-floor lunchroom, sullying Murphy's theory that the lunchroom encounter was a hoax.
And so Holmes gets ignored by the Murphyites, because they have no legitimate answer for him. All they can construe is that he was a government disinformation agent who lied about any detail pertinent to Murphy's theories. And even more convenient is that Allman was given a cover story to support Holmes' confabulations.
This Holmes testimony alone damns PrayerMan and the lunchroom hoax as hack experiments in criminology. But please do not get the impression that this is a hit piece on Sean Murphy. This is a hit piece on you, the reader, who abandoned your better judgment and joined the mob that fell for his mullarkey.
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HOLMES' TESTIMONY
Postal Inspector Harry Holmes attended the last of Oswald's interrogations on Sunday morning November 24th. He took notes and arranged these into a 4-page memorandum on December 17th. Holmes often referred to this memorandum when he testified before the Warren Commission that April 2nd.
Holmes' memorandum and his testimony established, in Oswald's own words, that Oswald was upstairs in the building when the shooting took place. And shortly thereafter, as he went downstairs, he gave directions to a newsman looking for a telephone. That newsman's independent corroboration eliminates any possibility that Oswald was lying about his whereabouts.
As the memorandum notes:
When asked as to his whereabouts at the time of the shooting, he stated that when lunchtime came, and he didn't say which floor he was on, he said one of the Negro employees invited him to eat lunch with him and he said, "You go on down and send the elevator back up and I will join you in a few minutes." Before he could finish whatever he was doing, he stated, the commotion surrounding the assassination took place and when he went downstairs, a policeman questioned him as to his identification and his boss stated that "he is one of our employees" whereupon the policeman told him to step aside momentarily. Following this, he simply walked out the front door of the building.
Inspector Thomas Kelley of the Secret Service also attended the Sunday morning interrogation and noted an additional incident in his report:[Oswald] said when he was standing in front of the Textbook Building and about to leave it, a young crew-cut man rushed up to him and said he was from the Secret Service, showed a book of identification, and asked him where the phone was. Oswald said he pointed toward the pay phone in the building and that he saw the man actually go to the phone before he left.
[Photo & diagram of 1st-floor phone]
The phone inside was on a pillar beside Roy Truly's office; Oswald had to have stood inside the front lobby at the plate glass partition leading into the warehouse to watch this young crew-cut man go to this phone. The Secret Service investigated this incident and determined that Oswald was mistaken- the crew-cut man was actually WFAA news director Pierce Allman. Agent Roger Warner interviewed him on January 29th:
After the shots Allman had run from the corner of Houston & Elm down to the Newman family, who had thrown themselves to the ground near the grassy knoll. He soon "ran full speed into the Texas School Book Depository Building with the intention of locating a phone and calling his television station WFAA. Mr. Allman stated that after he had entered the front door of the building, he had emerged into a hallway and there he met a white male he could not further identify. He asked the white male for the location of a telephone... the person pointed out a phone to him which was located in an open area of the first floor...
During the above interview it was noted that Mr. Allman carries his press pass in a leather case similar to cases carried by Federal agents and police officers." And at 12:34 Allman gave the world the first news broadcast from Dealey Plaza.
Holmes' testimony expanded on his memorandum and corroborated the encounter with Allman:
HOLMES: Then he said when all this commotion started, "I just went on downstairs." And he didn't say whether he took the elevator or not. He said, "I went down, and as I started to go out and see what it was all about, a police officer stopped me just before I got to the front door and started to ask me some questions, and my superintendent of the place stepped up and told the officers that I am one of the employees of the building, so he told me to step aside for a little bit and we will get to you later. Then I just went on out into the crowd to see what it was all about."
BELIN: Did he say where he was at the time of the shooting?
HOLMES: He just said he was still up in the building when the commotion- he kind of-
...BELIN: Did Oswald say anything about seeing a man with a crewcut in front of the building as he was about to leave it? Do you remember anything about that?
HOLMES: No.
BELIN: You don't remember anything about that. Did he say anything about telling a man about going to a pay phone in the building?
HOLMES: Policeman rushed- I take it back- I don't know whether he said a policeman or not- a man came rushing by and said, "Where's your telephone?"
And the man showed some kind of credential and I don't know that he identified the credential, so he might not have been a police officer, and said I am so and so, and shoved something at me which I didn't look at and said, "Where is the telephone?"
And I said, "Right there" and just pointed in to the phone, and I went on out.
...And he didn't say what he was doing. There was a commotion outside, which he later rushed downstairs to go out and see what was going on. He didn't say whether he took the stairs down. He didn't say whether he took the elevator down. But he went downstairs, and as he went out the front, it seems as though he did have a coke with him, or stopped at the coke machine, or somebody else was trying to get a coke, but there was a coke involved.
He mentioned something about a coke. But a police officer asked him who he was, and just as he started to identify himself, his superintendent came up and said, "He is one of our men." And the policeman said, "Well, you step aside for a little bit."
Then another man rushed in past him as he started out the door, in this vestibule part of it, and flashed some kind of credential and he said, "Where is your telephone, where is your telephone, and said I am so and so, where is your telephone."
And he said, "I didn't look at the credential. I don't know who he said he was, and I just pointed to the phone and said, 'there it is,' and went on out the door."
If Holmes' testimony in any way supported the PrayerMan theory it would be shouted from the rooftops. But it directly contradicts that idea, and flatly suggests that Oswald had just been at the Coke machine in the 2nd-floor lunchroom, sullying Murphy's theory that the lunchroom encounter was a hoax.
And so Holmes gets ignored by the Murphyites, because they have no legitimate answer for him. All they can construe is that he was a government disinformation agent who lied about any detail pertinent to Murphy's theories. And even more convenient is that Allman was given a cover story to support Holmes' confabulations.
This Holmes testimony alone damns PrayerMan and the lunchroom hoax as hack experiments in criminology. But please do not get the impression that this is a hit piece on Sean Murphy. This is a hit piece on you, the reader, who abandoned your better judgment and joined the mob that fell for his mullarkey.