26-07-2019, 07:00 PM
Why were Roy Truly and Bill Shelley such longtime Kerru Blue Terrier enthisiasts?
A hint here.... posting link to my curious research findings, so far, and then moving the BB code into this thread because readers here
will not be able to see the links in the posts I presented at this link.:
The WWII JIC "supremo" a Kerry Blue Terrier lover (Truly Shelley)
First, and also the most recent post in that thread are consolidated into this OP, because these two posts seems most compelling, so far....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Cav...f_Portland
Victor Cavendish-Bentinck, 9th Duke of Portland
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/1442...lley/photo
![[Image: 144214390_1438393234.jpg]](https://images.findagrave.com/photos250/photos/2015/211/144214390_1438393234.jpg)
![[Image: 144214390_1434914008.jpg]](https://images.findagrave.com/photos/2015/171/144214390_1434914008.jpg)
"Lovers of the Kerry Blue Terrier"
Newest post, as of 2:00 pm, EDT 26 July:
[quote author=Mark A. Oblazney link=topic=2121.msg57488#msg57488 date=1564045239]
Thanks for the excellent research/findings, Tom !! I remember when you finding Shelley's (sic?) photo was a major accomplishment, back in the day. Sigh+
[/quote]
Hey! In editing, assembling a post last night in newer thread, J. Simkin 2000s/Penn Jones?, I either forgot this commennt from Nina or read it for first time.... she shared in 2005 the observation Damore's researcher, she found out later, did not giver her everything. She seems to have gotten enough to write a book that stands up well, comparatively, in hindsight. Read on....it seems uncanny how frequently the routes I take (aka the road not taken by very many travelers) results in so much manure on my shoes, as the walk continues.... BTW, came back to Ober because I recently confirmed the family was tight with Cogswells in Scarsdale, Cogswell, Leslie Rice, Dean Mathey, Henry C Brunie, Empire Trust, John McCloy.
I came back to Richard Ober last night after seeing review of new Tom O'Neill book on "Chaos". A "Look Inside" keyword search on the Amazon page for the book did not return a result for the word, Ober....
So, ten min. ago, I discovered Harold Ober, father of Richard and Nathaniel, and F Scott's longtime literary agent, (James K aka Jake Cogswell III married daughter of Cornelius Van Ness in mid 1940s, a F. Scott Fitzerald acquaintance in St. Paul bookstore, 1920s) was sent by our government after graduating from Harvard, to Europe to study wartime uses of Airedale Terriers, a breed I was unfamiliar with.
Kilmarnock Books ( Kilmarnock Books | MNopedia ) Another regular at that bookstore, and
an author who seemed to Fitzgerald to be everything Fitzgerald was not...
Supports Harold Ober, Airedale Terrier study mission at government direction.: Page 255
Operation Chaos: The Vietnam Deserters Who Fought the CIA, the Brainwashers ...
By Matthew Sweet Page 255 Link....
And....maybe this might be why Airedale T. more obscure than Kerry Blue T. ?
Kerry Blue Terrier on LEFT, Airedale Terrier on right:(FWIW, if anything....)
https://www.mydogbreeds.com/kerry-blue-t...le-terrier
![[Image: TrulyShelleyKerryBlueLeftOberWWI.jpg]](http://jfkforum.com/images/TrulyShelleyKerryBlueLeftOberWWI.jpg)
TRAINABILITY ...................................................................EASY .........................................................Moderate
A hint here.... posting link to my curious research findings, so far, and then moving the BB code into this thread because readers here
will not be able to see the links in the posts I presented at this link.:
The WWII JIC "supremo" a Kerry Blue Terrier lover (Truly Shelley)
First, and also the most recent post in that thread are consolidated into this OP, because these two posts seems most compelling, so far....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Cav...f_Portland
Victor Cavendish-Bentinck, 9th Duke of Portland
Quote:The Official History of the Joint Intelligence Committee: Volume I: ...
https://books.google.com/books?isbn=1134715773
Michael S. Goodman - 2014 - ‎Preview - ‎More editions
Victor Cavendish-Bentinck was no stranger to the JIC; he had previously attended a number of meetings and had been ... Unsurprisingly, it was not long before Angus, a Kerry Blue Terrier who had earlier served with his master in Chile, ...
1001 Books You Must Read Before You Die..
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/1442...lley/photo
"Lovers of the Kerry Blue Terrier"
Quote:Pure-bred Dogs, American Kennel Gazette
https://books.google.com/books?id=mr1YAAAAYAAJ
1957 - ‎
Charles J. Doyle, Secretary, 432 W. Washington St., Winamac, Ind. KERRY BLUE TERRIERS UNITED STATES KERRY BLUE TERRIER CLUB, INC. ... New faces on the Board are Roy S. Truly, Dallas, Tex. and Dr. Justin Mooney, Kansas City.
Newest post, as of 2:00 pm, EDT 26 July:
[quote author=Mark A. Oblazney link=topic=2121.msg57488#msg57488 date=1564045239]
Thanks for the excellent research/findings, Tom !! I remember when you finding Shelley's (sic?) photo was a major accomplishment, back in the day. Sigh+
[/quote]
Hey! In editing, assembling a post last night in newer thread, J. Simkin 2000s/Penn Jones?, I either forgot this commennt from Nina or read it for first time.... she shared in 2005 the observation Damore's researcher, she found out later, did not giver her everything. She seems to have gotten enough to write a book that stands up well, comparatively, in hindsight. Read on....it seems uncanny how frequently the routes I take (aka the road not taken by very many travelers) results in so much manure on my shoes, as the walk continues.... BTW, came back to Ober because I recently confirmed the family was tight with Cogswells in Scarsdale, Cogswell, Leslie Rice, Dean Mathey, Henry C Brunie, Empire Trust, John McCloy.
I came back to Richard Ober last night after seeing review of new Tom O'Neill book on "Chaos". A "Look Inside" keyword search on the Amazon page for the book did not return a result for the word, Ober....
So, ten min. ago, I discovered Harold Ober, father of Richard and Nathaniel, and F Scott's longtime literary agent, (James K aka Jake Cogswell III married daughter of Cornelius Van Ness in mid 1940s, a F. Scott Fitzerald acquaintance in St. Paul bookstore, 1920s) was sent by our government after graduating from Harvard, to Europe to study wartime uses of Airedale Terriers, a breed I was unfamiliar with.
Kilmarnock Books ( Kilmarnock Books | MNopedia ) Another regular at that bookstore, and
an author who seemed to Fitzgerald to be everything Fitzgerald was not...
Quote:Through the Wheat - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Through_the_Wheat
Through the Wheat (1923) was the first book published by Thomas Alexander Boyd, about the ... of Courage. F. Scott Fitzgerald said that the novel was a "work of art" & published a review to the New York Evening Post praising the novel.
Supports Harold Ober, Airedale Terrier study mission at government direction.: Page 255
Operation Chaos: The Vietnam Deserters Who Fought the CIA, the Brainwashers ...
By Matthew Sweet Page 255 Link....
Quote:https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-tay...l-28681128
Dogs of war: How man's best friend joined him at the front
7 August, 2014 ....
And....maybe this might be why Airedale T. more obscure than Kerry Blue T. ?
Kerry Blue Terrier on LEFT, Airedale Terrier on right:(FWIW, if anything....)
https://www.mydogbreeds.com/kerry-blue-t...le-terrier
TRAINABILITY ...................................................................EASY .........................................................Moderate