Israeli assets?Heck just go to your local mall.
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Israeli kiosk vendors at malls in U.S. disappearing
By Wayne Madsen
Online Journal Contributing Writer
Feb 19, 2010, 00:20
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WMR) -- Israeli mall kiosk vendors, identified by the National Security Agency (NSA) and U.S. counter-intelligence agencies as part of an Israeli intelligence-gathering operation in the United States, have started to abandon their kiosks in malls across the United States, according to information received by WMR.
In particular, kiosks that sell Israeli Dead Sea skin care products have recently been vacated by young Israeli nationals at the Arundel Mills Mall in Hanover, Maryland, and at malls in the Philadelphia area. The kiosks have been emptied of their products and have been vacated, according to our sources.
In the past, Israeli mall kiosks sold products ranging from toys to ear jewelry.
NSA security warned NSA employees that the Israeli-owned kiosk at the nearby Columbia, Maryland, mall should be avoided by NSA personnel as NSA intercepts determined the kiosks are affiliated with Israeli intelligence-gathering operations in the United States.
Wayne Madsen is a Washington, DC-based investigative journalist and nationally-distributed columnist. He is the editor and publisher of the
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Most diaspora Jews I know would be the last people on earth to help Mossad.
Thank you, Magda- I very much agree.
What we need to promote I feel, is a nuanced view of situation where no group of people is demonized, while we work to build as large and as powerful of a coalition as possible to profoundly change the institutions which are framing and defining the problem.
Magda Hassan Wrote:Most diaspora Jews I know would be the last people on earth to help Mossad.
Nevertheless, Mossad obviously recieves plenty of assistance from the diaspora. Their success in these covert ops proves they have a formidable network of helpers.
This one's really blown up in their faces.
Mark Stapleton Wrote:Magda Hassan Wrote:Most diaspora Jews I know would be the last people on earth to help Mossad.
Nevertheless, Mossad obviously recieves plenty of assistance from the diaspora. Their success in these covert ops proves they have a formidable network of helpers.
This one's really blown up in their faces.
This is true of course. But its not universal any more than all Catholics would help the Vatican intelligence.
The fact that the state of Israel has abused these individuals and put them at risk by appropriating their real identity for an international crime has really pissed off a lot of people in and out of the diaspora. They have won no friends by this and gained a lot of enemies.
Mark Stapleton Wrote:Magda Hassan Wrote:Most diaspora Jews I know would be the last people on earth to help Mossad.
Nevertheless, Mossad obviously recieves plenty of assistance from the diaspora. Their success in these covert ops proves they have a formidable network of helpers.
This one's really blown up in their faces.
really? I believe Hamas, better than any organization on the face of this earth (next to the Taliban and Osma binLaden and company) understand that if Israel can find their leaders, anywhere, at anytime and anyplace--they're dead.
The only exception, political expediency. Those Hamas leaders currently still breathing are breathing through the good graces of Mossad. This Hamas dudes time simply ran out.... WAR is indeed, hell!
The foolishness will stop when one of two conditions are met: when
BOTH sides agree to a cease fire, or, either side runs out of funds....
In the meantime, USofA Fed Treasury printing presses are rolling 24/7, 365 days a year...
Magda Hassan Wrote:Mark Stapleton Wrote:Magda Hassan Wrote:Most diaspora Jews I know would be the last people on earth to help Mossad.
Nevertheless, Mossad obviously recieves plenty of assistance from the diaspora. Their success in these covert ops proves they have a formidable network of helpers.
This one's really blown up in their faces.
This is true of course. But its not universal any more than all Catholics would help the Vatican intelligence.
I agree Magda but as far as I know the Vatican doesn't have a covert global assassination strategy, isn't currently stockpiling nukes, chemical weapons etc, doesn't have 1.5 million Gazans imprisoned in an open air concentration camp and isn't baying for war with Iran---although I know the Vatican does have past form.
Thomas is basically right, although the number of helpers is open to speculation. What is beyond speculation is the fact that Mossad couldn't operate globally without them. The big difference, imo, is that Mossad sayanim are usually placed in more important positions than the assets of other agencies. They are scattered throughout Government departments, universities, the corporate sector and especially the media, and they're usually at or near the top.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?c...&aid=17713
Quote:The list of kidon assassinations is long and stretches far beyond the Arab world. In their base deep in the Negev Desert – the sand broken only by a distant view of Israel's nuclear facility at Dimona – the kidon practise with a variety of handguns, learn how to conceal bombs, administer a lethal injection in a crowd and make a killing look accidental.
They review famous assassinations – the shooting of John F Kennedy, for example – and study the faces and habits of potential targets whose details are stored on their highly restricted computers. There, too, are thousands of constantly updated street plans downloaded from Google Earth.
Mossad is one of the world's smallest intelligence services. But it has a back-up system no other outfit can match. The system is known as sayanim, a derivative of the Hebrew word lesayeah, meaning to help.
There are tens of thousands of these "helpers". Each has been carefully recruited, sometimes by katsas, Mossad's field agents. Others have been asked to become helpers by other members of the secret group.
Created by Meir Amit, the role of the sayanim is a striking example of the cohesiveness of the world Jewish community. In practical terms, a sayan who runs a car rental agency will provide a kidon with a vehicle on a no-questions basis. An estate agent sayan will provide a building for surveillance. A bank manager sayan will provide funds at any time of day or night, and a sayan doctor provides medical assistance.
Any of these helpers could have been involved in the assassination of Mahmoud al-Mabhouh. Mossad has recently expanded its network of sayanim into Arab countries.
A sayan doctor in the West Bank provided details of the homoeopathic concoction Yasser Arafat used to drink. When he died in 2004, his personal physician, Dr al-Kurdi, said "poisoning is a strong possibility in this case".There have been reports that more than a dozen terrorists have died from poisoning in the past five years,.
Within the global intelligence community, respect for Mossad grew following the kidon assassination of Dr Gerald Bull, the Canadian scientist who was probably the world's greatest expert on gun-barrel ballistics. Israel had made several attempts to buy his expertise. Each time, Bull had made clear his dislike for the Jewish state.
Instead he had offered his services to Saddam Hussein, to build a super-gun capable of launching shells containing nuclear, chemical or biological warheads directly from Iraq into Israel. Saddam had ordered three of the weapons at a cost of $20 million. Bull was retained as a consultant for a fee of $1 million.
On the afternoon of March 20, 1990, the sanction to kill Bull was given by the then prime minister, Yitzhak Shamir. Nahum Admoni, the head of Mossad, sent a three-man team to Brussels, where Bull lived in a luxury apartment block. Each kidon carried a handgun in a holster under his jacket.
When the 61-year-old Bull answered the doorbell of his home, he was shot five times in the head and the neck, each kidon firing their 7.65 pistol in turn, leaving Bull dead on his doorstep. An hour later they were out of the country on a flight to Tel Aviv.
Within hours, Mossad's own department of psychological warfare had arranged with sayanim in the European media to leak stories that Bull had been shot by Saddam's hit squad because he had planned to renege on their deal.
There's at least one part of that Global Research article by Gordon Thomas (
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=17713)and referenced by Mark in the previous post that supports Austin's original point about Thomas's reliability. It concerns the assassination of Gerald Bull:
Quote:Within the global intelligence community, respect for Mossad grew following the kidon assassination of Dr Gerald Bull, the Canadian scientist who was probably the world's greatest expert on gun-barrel ballistics. Israel had made several attempts to buy his expertise. Each time, Bull had made clear his dislike for the Jewish state.
Instead he had offered his services to Saddam Hussein, to build a super-gun capable of launching shells containing nuclear, chemical or biological warheads directly from Iraq into Israel. Saddam had ordered three of the weapons at a cost of $20 million. Bull was retained as a consultant for a fee of $1 million.
On the afternoon of March 20, 1990, the sanction to kill Bull was given by the then prime minister, Yitzhak Shamir. Nahum Admoni, the head of Mossad, sent a three-man team to Brussels, where Bull lived in a luxury apartment block. Each kidon carried a handgun in a holster under his jacket.
When the 61-year-old Bull answered the doorbell of his home, he was shot five times in the head and the neck, each kidon firing their 7.65 pistol in turn, leaving Bull dead on his doorstep. An hour later they were out of the country on a flight to Tel Aviv.
Within hours, Mossad's own department of psychological warfare had arranged with sayanim in the European media to leak stories that Bull had been shot by Saddam's hit squad because he had planned to renege on their deal.
The BIG problem with all that is that it is presented as the definitive version of what happened, whereas it is far from certain that Mossad were the prime movers - or even the trigger men.
Magda's thread about Stephan Koch
here suggests a plausible alternative. I was so intrigued by that thread that I bought a copy of Gerald James's book 'In the Public Interest' and have just finished reading it. James became deeply enmeshed in events leading to the 'Arms to Iraq' scandal through the mid-late eighties and early nineties. He was the Chairman of Astra Holdings throughout and knew Gerald Bull personally. Bull's was not the only assassination with deep connections to UK involvement in that arms trade. Belgian 'Minister of State' Andre Cools and investigative reporter Jonathan Moyle were two other obvious ones and there were several other highly suspicious, premature unexplained deaths. More on Moyle in another of Magda's threads
here
In short MI6, the eyes, ears, facilitators and enforcers of UK Deep State interests were undoubtedly relieved at the early demise of all those players and were as well placed as any organisation to ensure they occurred.
So, contrary to Gordon Thomas's dogmatic version, there are other possibilities with more substantial motive and capability which he does not even mention. Hmmmm.
Magda Hassan Wrote:Mark Stapleton Wrote:Magda Hassan Wrote:Most diaspora Jews I know would be the last people on earth to help Mossad.
Nevertheless, Mossad obviously recieves plenty of assistance from the diaspora. Their success in these covert ops proves they have a formidable network of helpers.
This one's really blown up in their faces.
This is true of course. But its not universal any more than all Catholics would help the Vatican intelligence.
Yes, there is no way whereby it could be argued that the bulk of Catholics or the bulk of the Diaspora can be said to be participants. Having said that there will certainly be some who would help and be honoured to do so. I think this would be true of any nationality or religion, because there is a tendency to adhere to one's own people.
Peter Presland Wrote:There's at least one part of that Global Research article by Gordon Thomas (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=17713)and referenced by Mark in the previous post that supports Austin's original point about Thomas's reliability. It concerns the assassination of Gerald Bull:
Quote:Within the global intelligence community, respect for Mossad grew following the kidon assassination of Dr Gerald Bull, the Canadian scientist who was probably the world's greatest expert on gun-barrel ballistics. Israel had made several attempts to buy his expertise. Each time, Bull had made clear his dislike for the Jewish state.
Instead he had offered his services to Saddam Hussein, to build a super-gun capable of launching shells containing nuclear, chemical or biological warheads directly from Iraq into Israel. Saddam had ordered three of the weapons at a cost of $20 million. Bull was retained as a consultant for a fee of $1 million.
On the afternoon of March 20, 1990, the sanction to kill Bull was given by the then prime minister, Yitzhak Shamir. Nahum Admoni, the head of Mossad, sent a three-man team to Brussels, where Bull lived in a luxury apartment block. Each kidon carried a handgun in a holster under his jacket.
When the 61-year-old Bull answered the doorbell of his home, he was shot five times in the head and the neck, each kidon firing their 7.65 pistol in turn, leaving Bull dead on his doorstep. An hour later they were out of the country on a flight to Tel Aviv.
Within hours, Mossad's own department of psychological warfare had arranged with sayanim in the European media to leak stories that Bull had been shot by Saddam's hit squad because he had planned to renege on their deal.
The BIG problem with all that is that it is presented as the definitive version of what happened, whereas it is far from certain that Mossad were the prime movers - or even the trigger men.
Magda's thread about Stephan Koch here suggests a plausible alternative. I was so intrigued by that thread that I bought a copy of Gerald James's book 'In the Public Interest' and have just finished reading it. James became deeply enmeshed in events leading to the 'Arms to Iraq' scandal through the mid-late eighties and early nineties. He was the Chairman of Astra Holdings throughout and knew Gerald Bull personally. Bull's was not the only assassination with deep connections to UK involvement in that arms trade. Belgian 'Minister of State' Andre Cools and investigative reporter Jonathan Moyle were two other obvious ones and there were several other highly suspicious, premature unexplained deaths. More on Moyle in another of Magda's threads here
In short MI6, the eyes, ears, facilitators and enforcers of UK Deep State interests were undoubtedly relieved at the early demise of all those players and were as well placed as any organisation to ensure they occurred.
So, contrary to Gordon Thomas's dogmatic version, there are other possibilities with more substantial motive and capability which he does not even mention. Hmmmm.
There is, of course, another possibility Peter. That is that Mossad were contracted to carry out Bull's assassination on the part of another friendly state. I remember this case somewhat and discussed it with someone I knew who investigated it for the purposes of making a TV documentary about it. In this person's view the assassinations had the 'style" of a Mossad hit. But he believed British fingerprints were actually all over it.
We can extend this analysis further about the Robert Maxwell death. Gordon Thomas said in one of his books, that Mossad were behind that. A (now retired) senior journalist I know who worked for Maxwell conducted his own private investigation and believed it was probably the US and/or UK who were ultimately responsible.
The bottom line is that if you wish to conduct a high profile assassination you're going to make damn well sure you muddy the waters by contracting out to another friendly agency - who may well also contract out to yet another friendly agency etc etc., and they, in turn, ultimately may use independent cut outs.
Thomas could be precisely right and absolutely incorrect at the same time.