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Yes, and note too the sleight of hand in spinning it as his celebrity status that protected him, rather than people in positions of power. It's more comforting to know it was something as benign and amorphous as celebrity status; and you can't put 'celebrity status' on trial. It's like the WMD debacle where mistakes were made, but no one made them.
Malcolm Pryce Wrote:Yes, and note too the sleight of hand in spinning it as his celebrity status that protected him, rather than people in positions of power. It's more comforting to know it was something as benign and amorphous as celebrity status; and you can't put 'celebrity status' on trial. It's like the WMD debacle where mistakes were made, but no one made them.

Indeed.

Savile procured for those more powerful than him.

And his "celebrity halo" was added protection for those powerful ones.
The truth the powerful are still trying to bury:


Quote:Police failings put dozens of children at risk from notorious paedophile ring

Documents reveal some visitors at Elm Guest House went on to commit series of child sex offences


Martin Hickman The Independent

Sunday 03 March 2013

Scores of children might have been protected from kidnap, rape and indecent assault if the police had smashed an alleged establishment paedophile ring operating at a suburban house in London in the 1980s.

At least three men listed in documents as visitors to Elm Guest House in Rocks Lane, Barnes, were later convicted of multiple sex offences against children, The Independent can disclose.

A team of detectives in Scotland Yard's Paedophile Unit is investigating historic allegations that powerful individuals linked to Buckingham Palace, the Conservative Party and the legal profession routinely abused children at the three-storey property in the early 1980s.

The guest house was established as a refuge for homosexuals in the 1970s, but soon became a place where men had sex with young prostitutes and later, allegedly, boys and girls from the now-closed Grafton Close children's home in nearby Hounslow. Police raided the property in 1982 and charged its owner, German-born Carole Kasir, with keeping an immoral house but did not arrest any guests.

Childcare professionals liaising with the current Metropolitan Police investigation, Operation Fernbridge, claim that the inquiry in 1982 and another one in 2003 were stymied by an establishment cover-up.

It can also be disclosed that two children disappeared in south-west London during the heyday of Elm Guest House.

Martin Allen, a 15-year-old boy, vanished on 5 November, 1979. A member of the public saw an apprehensive boy fitting his description with a man on a Tube train travelling towards Earl's Court. On the evening of the Royal Wedding in 1981, eight-year-old Vishal Mehotra went missing in Putney. Neither boy was seen again.

While the Metropolitan Police told The Independent that the boys' disappearances were not being re-investigated, the predatory nature of some of those who stayed at the Elm Guest House will raise concerns that they could have been targeted.

Anthony Milsom, a paedophile from Hull, who is alleged to have stayed at the property, later moved to Newtown, Powys, where he was convicted of a string of sex offences dating back to the 1990s, including 21 counts of making indecent photographs of children and five counts of indecent assault on a girl when she was aged between 4 and eight. He was jailed indefinitely at Mold Crown Court in March 2011, but six months later appeal court judges reduced his sentence to three-and-a-half years. Another alleged visitor was Colin Peters, a Foreign Office barrister, who was jailed in 1989 for being part of a network which molested hundreds of boys. Reports at the time said the ring "was used by highly placed civil servants and well-known public officials".

The most infamous alleged visitor to Elm Guest House was Warwick Spinks, a violent paedophile who in 1995 was jailed for a series of sexual offences on boys, including serious sexual assault at knifepoint, taking a child without lawful authority and taking indecent images of children. Lewes Crown Court heard that he had he drugged a 14-year-old boy and "sold him" to a gay brothel in Amsterdam.

According to documents kept by a former children's worker, visitors to the property included the Soviet spy Sir Anthony Blunt and the late Liberal MP Cyril Smith, who is now thought by Manchester police to have assaulted teenage boys.

Another was Sir Peter Hayman, Britain's former High Commissioner in Canada.

Brittan has 'no recollection' of dossier

A senior minister in Margaret Thatcher's Cabinet handed a dossier containing allegations of paedophilia in Buckingham Palace and the diplomatic and civil services says he cannot remember receiving the file.

In November 1983 Sir Leon Brittan, the Home Secretary, was given the dossier by the late Geoffrey Dickens, as part of his campaign against the Paedophile Information Exchange.

Asked by The Independent this week what the dossier alleged and what action, if any, he took, Sir Leon, a QC and later European Commissioner, replied by email: "I have no recollection of these matters. Sorry!"
Tom Flanagan … is the neocon pope no more, having uttered the astonishing opinion at a seminar the previous evening in the deep-south Alberta city of Lethbridge that child pornography is, if not exactly OK, more of a freedom of expression issue than an exploitation of children issue. Not only that, but in response to a questioner at the University of Lethbridge seminar, Flanagan informed his audience he'd once been on the mailing list of the North American Man-Boy Love Association for two years. One can only hope this was in error, as he seemed to be implying. …

I it's been understood for a while that Flanagan hitherto best known for his role as self-proclaimed godfather to Prime Minister Stephen Harper's political career, signatory to the Alberta separatist Firewall Manifesto, chief strategist of Alberta's far-right Wildrose Party and advocate of the assassination of Wikileaks founder Julian Assange has a small problem with knowing when not to use his outside voice. But one would have thought that he would have realized by now in the age of the tiny phone-mounted digital camera that any voice one chooses to use even a whisper is in effect your outside voice. …

Perhaps the U of L's classroom ambience made the American-born neocon icon forget he was not back in the loving embrace of the University of Calgary, where his odious economic views have been treated as infallible and inspired by generations of students and administrators since the late 1960s? …

Alas for Flanagan, he is also known for controversial and unsympathetic views about First Nations rights, which inspired Idle No More activists to attend his lecture. One of them, a young man from the nearby Blood Tribe named Levi Little Moustache, brought a digital camera and asked an unsympathetic question although he, like many others in the room and out of it, gasped with shock when Flanagan uttered his career-ending opinion.

Within hours Flanagan discovered that even for a pal of the prime minister and comfortable senior Conservative party ideologue known as the Karl Rove of Canadian politics, there are limits to what may be said aloud without consequences especially when it's posted on Youtube.

In the hours after the video of Flanagan's remarks went viral, spokesthingies for conservative groups and political parties, previously obsequious media organizations and once-sympathetic employers were practically knocking over the furniture in their haste to be the first to tack their former neoconservative idol to the wall. …
Disenguous, self-serving and highly revealing garbage from the Archbishop of Durban.

Of course there's a cycle of abuse where the abused may become abusers themselves.

The Catholic Church should be striving to break that cycle of abuse, not perpetuating it by hiding the crimes of priests and allowing them to continue abusing.


Quote:Paedophilia is an illness NOT a crime, says cardinal just days after papal conclave

Claimed people abused as youngsters who then become paedophiles 'not criminally responsible'
Says paedophilia 'is an illness, not a criminal condition'
Says those people do not deserve to be punished because they are damaged



Pope Francis said that he wants a 'church for the poor'

By Anna Edwards

PUBLISHED: 09:02, 16 March 2013 | UPDATED: 11:20, 16 March 2013

Daily Mail

A South African cardinal who helped elect Pope Francis has described paedophilia as a psychological illness and not 'a criminal condition'.

The Catholic Archbishop of Durban, Wilfrid Fox Napier, told BBC Radio 5 live that people who were abused as children and became paedophiles were not criminally responsible for their actions in the same way as somebody 'who chooses to do something like that'.

Cardinal Napier, who was among the 115 cardinals in the conclave at the Vatican that elected Pope Francis earlier this week, called paedophilia a 'psychological disorder.

And just three days into the new role, the pope and the Catholic Church are now faced with fresh child abuse controversy after the cardinal's remarks.
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Newly elected Pope Francis (right), is given a yellow Catholic faith bracelet by Cardinal Wilfrid Fox Napier of South Africa following a meeting at the Vatican (left). The South African cardinal claimed that paedophilia is an 'illness'

He said: 'What do you do with disorders? You have got to try and put them right.

'If I as a normal being choose to break the law knowing that I am breaking the law, then I think I need to be punished...

'From my experience paedophilia is actually an illness, it is not a criminal condition, it is an illness.'

The cardinal spoke of two priests he knew who were abused as children and went on to become paedophiles.

He told the BBC: 'Don't tell me that those people are criminally responsible like somebody who chooses to do something like that.


The cardinal said that in his experience, paedophilia is an illness, not a criminal condition, and the people who have been abused as children and then molest others are 'damaged'
Pope Francis explained to journalists in an audience today that he was a 'church for the poor'

Pope Francis explained to journalists in an audience today that he wants a 'church for the poor'

'I don't think you can really take the position and say that person deserves to be punished when he was himself damaged.'

Barbara Dorries, from the US-based Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests was abused as a child by a priest.

She told the BBC: 'If it is a disease that's fine, but it's also a crime and crimes are punished, criminals are held accountable for what they did and what they do.

'The bishops and the cardinals have gone to great lengths to cover these crimes to enable the predators to move on, to not be arrested, to keep the secrets within the church.'

The cardinal has made controversial statements before, maintaining that people should abstain from sex rather than use contraceptives, to stop spreading HIV.

He took the official Roman Catholic Stance and argued that government programmes to distribute condoms were ineffectual in stemming the spread of HIV.

Instead, he supported programmes based around abstinence.

He was one of the cardinal electors who participated in the 2005 papal conclave that selected Pope Benedict XVI.

The cardinal is a prolific Twitter user, and has kept his followers up to date about the conclave and his meetings with the newly ordained pope.

He wrote: 'Last 2 days quite unreal. Mass with Pope Francis in Santa Martha Chapel, Breakfast, Lunch & Supper with him sitting at a different table!

'What's it like in Conclave? Apart from NO radio or TV, NO newspapers or phone calls, Emails or SMS's, NO Twitter or Facebook, all is normal.'
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Pope Francis I sits in the Paul VI general audience hall during an audience for members of the media

The pope thanked the media and told them how he had come to choose his name, saying he wanted Francis of Assisi who represented 'poverty and peace'

'We chat, discuss, get to know each other. Meals are special times. We relax, share stories about our home Churches, dream about the future!'

Pope Francis has said he wants 'a poor Church, for the poor' following his election as head of the Catholic Church.

In a meeting with journalists, the Pontiff said he was inspired to choose the name Francis after the 12th Century saint Francis of Assisi.

He said when news broke that he had been selected, a Brazilian colleague embraced him in congratulations and whispered 'don't forget the poor', the BBC reported.

He chose the Italian saint because he represented 'poverty and peace'.

Newly elected Pope Francis waves as he held his first meeting with journalists - who praised him for his warmth and friendliness

He urged journalists to share the church's focus on 'truth, goodness and beauty', and thanked them for their hard work.

The pope shook hands, held them, embraced people and was warm.

A blind reporter who was accompanied by a guide dog met the pope, and he patted the dog and stroked it, to cheers from the audience, Sky news reported.

He is due to celebrate mass tomorrow and will take part in an inaugural mass on Tuesday.

Pope Francis will visit his predecessor at the papal retreat at Castel Gandolfo next Saturday in a historic encounter that brings together the new pope and the first pope to resign in six centuries.

The meeting will be private, but every comment and gesture on the sidelines will be scrutinised for hints of how the unprecedented relationship will take shape between the emeritus pontiff and his successor.

Benedict has been out of the public eye since officially leaving the papacy on February 28.

The Vatican dismissed any suggestion that the former pope helped shaped the discussions inside the secret gathering of cardinals that selected Buenos Aires Archbishop Jorge Bergoglio on Wednesday as the first pontiff from Latin America.

Vatican officials said there was no contact between the papal electors and Benedict before the conclave.
BREAKING: Australian Entertainer, 82, Arrested On Suspicion Of Sexual Offences

Written by Mike Hohnen on 29th March, 2013
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[/URL] The BBC have reported that an 82-year-old Australian entertainer has been arrested on suspicion of sex offences, as Operation Yewtree broaden their investigation into child sex claims against the late Jimmy Savile.
According to a police statement, released a few hours ago, an 82-year-old man from Berkshire, UK was arrested some time last night. The Met have yet to release the name of the individual involved.
Tom Savage, editor of The Daily Star newspaper, has tweeted that the man in custody is Rolf Harris.
This recent arrest comes from Operation Yewtree investigations under the category of "Others", defined as relating to alleged complaints against other people unconnected to the Jimmy Savile investigations but, according to the police spokesperson, "generally people who were in the public spotlight at around that time".
A bail hearing will be held some time in May.
More to come.

http://musicfeeds.com.au/news/breaking-a...-offences/


If only that was all he was touching.
As the song goes....

Two little boys had two little toys
Each had a wooden horse
Gaily they played each summers day
Warriors both of course
One little chap then had a mishap
Broke off his horses head
Wept for his toy, then cried with joy
As his young playmate said

Did you think I would leave you crying
When there's room on my horse for two
Climb up here, Jack and don't be crying
I can go just as fast with two
When we grow up we'll both be soliders
And our horses will not be toys
And I wonder if we'll remember when we were
Two little boys

THE PAEDOFILE: Downing Street accused of gagging' victim support groups

All Quiet on the Rocks Lane team as more history of blatant cover-up emerges
Recently, a paedophilia victims support group was raided by police, and evidence removed. This morning, Downing Street stands accused of restricting funds to help people sexually abused as children. The plan seems to be to starve the outers of the money they need to blow the whistle on a long-standing and appalling history of cover-up at the highest levels of government.
Just how long this history is becomes apparent when reading accounts like that of former Met cop, Detective Chief Inspector Clive Driscoll. Way back in the nineties, Driscoll was given the task of finding out who the *paedophiles were preying on kids in Lambeth Council childrens' homes.
However, his superiors quickly decided they didn't like the names he came up with. He was summarily removed from the case and put on disciplinary charges. His crime was revealing the names of *politicians among the suspects. And at least one of those was rather too close to the police for comfort.
Disturbed that Clive had been sidelined, former Labour councillor Anna Tapsell got a less than friendly visit from senior Plod warning her not to make any complaints, after she raised concerns that detectives would turn a blind eye to allegations of *paedophile activity in care homes.
Clive Driscoll had an unblemished career in the Met going back twenty-five years or more, but he had a regulation 15 disciplinary notice dumped on his head after naming several politicians in a confidential' council *officials meeting in 1999.
And that was the end of that. The Home Secretary at the time was Jack Straw.
If nobody prosecutes, these deadly perverts escape unscathed. If nobody checks, they carry on as normal: last week a convicted paedophile called John Wills from Stowmarket in Suffolk was found in north Durham….operating as a scout leader for the 1st Chopwell scout group. No doubt he got the job using recommendations' from the Odessa-style network of powerful paedophiles who erase records, lose documents, destroy evidence, and blackmail fellow politicians.
This is how a civilisation sinks into the slime.
But those old, carefully buried files keep on being reopened. The Exaro team notes that police have restarted their investigation into disgraceful (and overwhelming) allegations of sexual abuse of the children unlucky enough to have been housed at the Kincora boys' home in East Belfast in Northern Ireland.
There are now thirty major police teams investigating abuse allegations within the UK care home, teaching, and local government professions. Sadly, investigate' is all the Plods ever seem to do. We must all keep up the pressure….and perhaps start by asking why Victim Support Grants are to be cut, while a bunch of plonkers like the British Council go from strength to strength.
https://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2013/03/27/...rt-groups/
More of the police/political establishment culture of arresting celebrities mostly in order to avoid arresting the true VIP's. We all know the names of those involved who in the Elm Guest House scandal, as it is now common knowledge, including the breath-taking allegation that a certain member of the House of Lewds, and former Home Office Minister, stands accused of using the diplomatic pouch to smuggle children for abuse.

Police "arrest strategies" are, of course, unmitigated "spin" bollocks, designed to allow the fix to go in, and the guilty VIPs to remain free.

And now the promised arrests of parties involved in the Elm guest house have mysteriously not occurred.

Who can any longer trust these lying job-worth scum.

A pox on all their houses.
The following Daily Express piece on Savile is from January 2013, so not new. If it's been posted before, apologies.

If what is claimed is true, this is an important story and may go some way to explaining why Savile remained in circulation, untouched for so long.

Jimmy Savile was part of satanic ring

JIMMY SAVILE beat and raped a 12-year-old girl during a secret satanic ritual in a hospital.

By: James Fielding
Published: Sun, January 13, 2013

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The perverted star wore a hooded robe and mask as he abused the terrified victim in a candle-lit basement.
He also chanted "Hail Satan" in Latin as other paedophile devil worshippers joined in and assaulted the girl at Stoke Mandeville Hospital in Buckinghamshire. The attack, which happened in 1975, shines a sinister new light on the former DJ's 54-year reign of terror.
Savile, who died aged 84 in October 2011, is now Britain's worst sex offender after police revealed he preyed on at least 450 victims aged eight to 47.
The girl kept her torment hidden for nearly 20 years before finally opening up to therapist Valerie Sinason.
Dr Sinason told the Sunday Express she first spoke to the victim in 1992. "She had been a patient at Stoke Mandeville in 1975 when Savile was a regular visitor.
"She recalled being led into a room that was filled with candles on the lowest level of the hospital, somewhere that was not regularly used by staff. Several adults were there, including Jimmy Savile who, like the others, was wearing a robe and a mask.
"She recognised him because of his distinctive voice and the fact that his blond hair was protruding from the side of the mask. He was not the leader but he was seen as important because of his fame.
"She was molested, raped and beaten and heard words that sounded like Ave Satanas', a Latin*ised version of Hail Satan', being chanted. There was no mention of any other child being there and she cannot remember how long the attack lasted but she was left extremely frightened and shaken."
Savile was a volunteer porter and fundraiser at the hospital between 1965 and 1988 and had his own quarters there.
Five years after the hospital attack, he abused a second victim during another black mass ceremony held at a house in a wealthy London street.
The woman was 21 at the time and was made to attend an orgy, which later took on a darker twist.
Dr Sinason, director of the Clinic for Dissociative Studies in London, said: "A second victim approached me in 1993. She said she had been lent out' as a supposedly consenting prostituted woman at a party in a London house in 1980.
"The first part of the evening started off with an orgy but half-way through some of the participants left.
"Along with other young women, the victim was shepherded to wait in another room before being brought back to find Savile in a master of ceremonies kind of role with a group wearing robes and masks. She too heard Latin chanting and instantly recognised satanist regalia. Although the girl was a young adult, who was above the age of consent, she had suffered a history of sexual abuse and was extremely vulnerable."
Both victims contacted Dr Sinason, who is president of the Institute of Psychotherapy and Disability, while she was involved in a Department of Health-funded study into sexual abuse committed during rituals and religious ceremonies. She said: "Both these witnesses did speak to police at the time but were vulnerable witnesses and on encountering any surprise or shock did not dare to give all the details."
The police took no action.
She had been a patient at Stoke Mandeville in 1975 when Savile was a regular visitor
Dr Sinason
Dr Sinason added: "Savile was still a huge celebrity in the early Nineties, let's not forget, and there was never any action taken against him or any of the others involved.
"Neither girl knew one another, they lived in different parts of the country and contacted me a year apart yet their experiences are very similar. Whether Savile was a practising Satanist or merely enjoyed dressing up to scare his victims even more will perhaps never be known but he left those two girls mentally scarred."
Dr Sinason has passed details of the abuse to officers from the Savile inquiry, Operation Yewtree.
A joint report published on *Friday by the Metropolitan Police and the NSPCC uncovered at least 30 claims of abuse at Stoke Mandeville.
The hospital said it was unable to discuss individual cases while its own "Speaking Out" investigation was ongoing.
Anne Eden, chief executive of Buckinghamshire Healthcare NHS Trust, said: "As the investigation's name suggests, it is very keen to hear from anybody with any knowledge that they feel could help its work or anybody that needs support because of Jimmy Savile's alleged behaviour."