Deep Politics Forum

In spite of the sterling stuff he's done on the Palestinian Issue and his very impressive performance before that Congressional Committee, I've always had a bit of a problem with 'Gorgeous George' as he's fondly/not so fondly known over here. Never quite put my finger on it and it's more than just his extreme 'prima dona' tendencies too.

This from Kevin Boyle's Blog

Quote:George Galloway was filmed in Montreal on 17th November 2010 saying, "9/11 conspiracy theories are insane.":

Video here

Never mind that the physics of the collapses prove controlled demolition, what Galloway is saying here is simply false. The 19 were NOT on the planes. At least nine of these are still alive as revealed by the BBC, of all people. The hijackers were NOT filmed getting on the planes. The famous film of Mohammed Attah boarding a plane shows him catching a flight from Portland, Maine, not boarding the hijacked flight on 9/11. Also, there were, in fact, no hi-jackers' names on the 9/11 flight manifests.


Unfortunately, the only explanation for Galloway's behaviour over the last years is that he is NOT AN HONEST MAN.....or perhaps it would be fairer to say, no longer an honest man.

I, like many others, have tried to address 9/11 issues with him face to face. He will not engage with the information. He changes the subject, blusters and walks away. He basically does not WANT to know.

No one, superficially, has more good reason than George to recognise that 9/11 was an 'inside job' for which Muslims were framed.

However, he is not prepared to use his position to bring the facts into the public domain and undermine the establishment 'Al Qaeda' 'War on Terror' bollox.

It is pretty clear, in my opinion, that he was heavily spoken to by our friends and protectors in MI5/MI6 and told that he would be allowed to carry on his 'good work' for the Palestinians provided he did not challenge the government 'War on Terror' meme.

I can see no other reasonable, nor even possible, explanation.

After all....


.......the man is anything but a fool (i.e. incapable of understanding the facts and the issues) and it is quite impossible that he holds the US/UK/Israel in such high moral regard, or is so ignorant of history that he could consider such a 'false flag' event an impossibility! Remember also that this is the man who famously thundered that western sanctions on Saddam Hussein's Iraq had cost hundreds of thousands of children their lives. He fought the good fight for noble causes, however the media might have continually smeared him. This observer remains grateful for his presence on the political stage, but.......

How times change. One might pity him now.

George Galloway will NEVER recognise 9/11 as an 'inside job'. Get used to it.

Perhaps Robin Cook's sudden demise after stating in public that,

"The truth is, there is no islamic army or terrorist group called Al Qaida. And any informed intelligence officer knows this. But there is a propaganda campaign to make the public believe in the presence of an identified entity…The country behind this propaganda is the US"

.....played a part in the formation of Galloway's current traitorous public persona.

Well, I have to differ on my take. As you know I'm quite sure 9-11 was an inside job. That said, I like GG and most of the things I'm aware of he has said and done. He is head and shoulders over most others in his field - especially regarding the Middle East and how they have been treated by the UK and USA and others. Many were or still are deniers on 9-11 for a variety of reasons - mostly that it just seems too fantastic and far too LARGE an event to 'fake'. I disagree with that conclusion, but do notice that one by one many of those otherwise progressive persons, but 9-11 deniers, are coming over to the side of the painful Truth.....give him time. In a more general way, I'm against condemning a person for one or two bad ideas, if they have many other good ones to offer. This is why the Left never seems to get along and the Right does much better marching in lock-step toward fascism. If we are to fight them, we have to learn to get along despite some differences - we can't all think alike and agree on all. My tuppence.

Peter Lemkin Wrote:Well, I have to differ on my take. As you know I'm quite sure 9-11 was an inside job. That said, I like GG and most of the things I'm aware of he has said and done. He is head and shoulders over most others in his field - especially regarding the Middle East and how they have been treated by the UK and USA and others. Many were or still are deniers on 9-11 for a variety of reasons - mostly that it just seems too fantastic and far too LARGE an event to 'fake'. I disagree with that conclusion, but do notice that one by one many of those otherwise progressive persons, but 9-11 deniers, are coming over to the side of the painful Truth.....give him time. In a more general way, I'm against condemning a person for one or two bad ideas, if they have many other good ones to offer. This is why the Left never seems to get along and the Right does much better marching in lock-step toward fascism. If we are to fight them, we have to learn to get along despite some differences - we can't all think alike and agree on all. My tuppence.

I agree with much of that Peter.

I started the thread because what Kevin Boyle says rang a bell. The fact is that, for all his good works he has an almost unique ability to alienate his natural supporters and colleagues when it comes to who must be in the driving seat - guess what? it's always George and if he doesn't get his way he throws his rattle out of the pram. He did a sterling Job of splitting his "Respect" party down the middle and thus lost his Bethnal Green seat in the May general election. He's now looking for Scottish parliamentary constituency. I know a few of the people he's pissed off and believe me, he's done it big time.

Same with that video. He clearly knows diddly squat about the detail of 9/11 and 7/7 but nonetheless he invests his response to leading questions with same kind of authority and withering contempt for the questioner that wins him plaudits on the Palestinian issue. It all illustrates to me the care we need to exercise in choosing ANY leader - and prima-dona egotism should probably be an automatic disqualification.

I know what you mean about the so-called "Left" constantly fragmenting and indulging in fratricide. But so far as I am concerned the entire LEFT-RIGHT political paradigm is well past it's sell-by date. It is the language of a totally bankrupt political establishment orthodoxy and I reckon it's about time we found a better paradigm to frame the real issues facing us. The old left certainly does not have a monopoly of political - or any other virtue in my book.

Aside from this kind of comment I personally decline to frame my politics in terms of RIGHT and LEFT. To do so is to work at breathing life into a rotting corpse - All IMHO of course.

Yes I have heard GG being very contemptuous of troofers in the past. And yet this weekend he debated the issue for ten or fifteen minutes on Talksport Radio with Ian Henshall of reinvestigate911.org. I have to say he treated Ian Henshall very courteously. At the end he said that while he was not convinced by the 'inside-job' thesis he agreed the official narrative was unsound and supported the call for a new investigation. Make of that what you will.

Malcolm Pryce Wrote:Yes I have heard GG being very contemptuous of troofers in the past. And yet this weekend he debated the issue for ten or fifteen minutes on Talksport Radio with Ian Henshall of reinvestigate911.org. I have to say he treated Ian Henshall very courteously. At the end he said that while he was not convinced by the 'inside-job' thesis he agreed the official narrative was unsound and supported the call for a new investigation. Make of that what you will.

I may have been a bit hard on the man above. I think he is undoubtedly aware of the extent to which he has alienated his close collaborators. He's no fool, but then neither are they and, as Peter says, interminable internecine squabbles are precisely what allow the real opposition to get away with -- well all the crap they DO get away with. The really awkward problem is that substantial elements of the broad LEFT (to use that useless categorisation again) are part and parcel of that opposition. It's just too easy to be seduced by that sydrome and thereby become the oppositions enablers.

My take is that George is so much in love with George that everything else is dims into a very distant second place.

A Jesus complex is not, in my opinion, something that is healthy in any professional life be it religious or business. But it is particularly dangerous in political life.

Like Peter P, I regard Left and Right as the true impostors they are. The former Crime Minister, Tony Blair actually was a Conservative "lite" whose hero was Herr Margaret Thatchler, and the current Deputy Crime Minister, Nick Clegg (LibDem) used to be a "Young Conservative" when at Uni - a period he now says he really can't remember very well at all, when asked about it.

David Guyatt Wrote:....and the current Deputy Crime Minister, Nick Clegg (LibDem) used to be a "Young Conservative" when at Uni - a period he now says he really can't remember very well at all, when asked about it.

Too bloody drunk from the Bullingdon Club initiations and piss ups.

Magda Hassan Wrote:

David Guyatt Wrote:....and the current Deputy Crime Minister, Nick Clegg (LibDem) used to be a "Young Conservative" when at Uni - a period he now says he really can't remember very well at all, when asked about it.

Too bloody drunk from the Bullingdon Club initiations and piss ups.

I've bee trying to wheedle an invite to one as a guest. I've always wanted to throw a bottle of Cheval Blanc against a pub wall.

But I know no invite would be forthcoming.

Co's I'd always drain the bottle beforehand.

No breeding you see...