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Yes, Pluto (god of the underworld), as in Plutonium.....those who named the element didn't realize how apt a name they had given it!!!

TEPCO were very cagey about one of the processors, can't recall which one but I posted about it earlier in this thread. It looked like they were involved in manufacturing for nuclear weapons which is of course completely against their constitution let alone other things. They have so much to thank the American's for bring them into the nuclear age.... But then they should have stayed at home too instead of invading all their neighbours and using their citizens for slaves, target practice and science experiments. God of the Underworld indeed.

Peter Lemkin Wrote:Yes, Pluto (god of the underworld), as in Plutonium.....those who named the element didn't realize how apt a name they had given it!!!

In astrology nuclear energy and weapons etc come under the planet Pluto/scorpio and eighth house. Though it is now a satellite again and no longer a planet. Make me wonder how they will find other life in the universe when they can't even work out some thing as basic as that so close to home. But I digress.

Magda Hassan Wrote:

Peter Lemkin Wrote:Yes, Pluto (god of the underworld), as in Plutonium.....those who named the element didn't realize how apt a name they had given it!!!

In astrology nuclear energy and weapons etc come under the planet Pluto/scorpio and eighth house. Though it is now a satellite again and no longer a planet. Make me wonder how they will find other life in the universe when they can't even work out some thing as basic as that so close to home. But I digress.

I studied astrology a very, very long time ago, but wasn't really proficient in it. I had, however, the good fortune to send a brief period of time in Zurich with an elderly Jungian (in her Nineties) who had been taught directly by Jung and who specialised in astrological and tarot analysis (sounds weird, I know, but Jung himself was a big fan of the I-Ching as a divination tool as an adjunct to synchronicity).

But hey, Hassan! The 8th House is commonly known as the "House of Sex"! What going on I want to know? ::laughingdog::

David Guyatt Wrote:

Magda Hassan Wrote:

Peter Lemkin Wrote:Yes, Pluto (god of the underworld), as in Plutonium.....those who named the element didn't realize how apt a name they had given it!!!

In astrology nuclear energy and weapons etc come under the planet Pluto/scorpio and eighth house. Though it is now a satellite again and no longer a planet. Make me wonder how they will find other life in the universe when they can't even work out some thing as basic as that so close to home. But I digress.

I studied astrology a very, very long time ago, but wasn't really proficient in it. I had, however, the good fortune to send a brief period of time in Zurich with an elderly Jungian (in her Nineties) who had been taught directly by Jung and who specialised in astrological and tarot analysis (sounds weird, I know, but Jung himself was a big fan of the I-Ching as a divination tool as an adjunct to synchronicity).

But hey, Hassan! The 8th House is commonly known as the "House of Sex"! What going on I want to know? ::laughingdog::

It's also the house of death. Crime. Secrets. Surgeons. Stock brokers. Bankers. Chemists. Drug dealers. Tax collectors. Prostitutes. Detectives. Firemen. Undertakers. Antique dealers. ::fortuneteller:: Lots of deep political territory there.

At one time there was no Virgo or Scorpio. Before there were the 12 houses in astrology there was one big serpent whose name I've forgotten. But you can still see it in the glyph of virgo and scorpio, virgo being the head of the serpent and scorpio being the lower half, with the genitals and tail. In the story of the serpent it was cut in half and Libra keeps the balance between the two.

Magda Hassan Wrote:

David Guyatt Wrote:

Magda Hassan Wrote:

Peter Lemkin Wrote:Yes, Pluto (god of the underworld), as in Plutonium.....those who named the element didn't realize how apt a name they had given it!!!

In astrology nuclear energy and weapons etc come under the planet Pluto/scorpio and eighth house. Though it is now a satellite again and no longer a planet. Make me wonder how they will find other life in the universe when they can't even work out some thing as basic as that so close to home. But I digress.

I studied astrology a very, very long time ago, but wasn't really proficient in it. I had, however, the good fortune to send a brief period of time in Zurich with an elderly Jungian (in her Nineties) who had been taught directly by Jung and who specialised in astrological and tarot analysis (sounds weird, I know, but Jung himself was a big fan of the I-Ching as a divination tool as an adjunct to synchronicity).

But hey, Hassan! The 8th House is commonly known as the "House of Sex"! What going on I want to know? ::laughingdog::

It's also the house of death. Crime. Secrets. Surgeons. Stock brokers. Bankers. Chemists. Drug dealers. Tax collectors. Prostitutes. Detectives. Firemen. Undertakers. Antique dealers. ::fortuneteller:: Lots of deep political territory there.

At one time there was no Virgo or Scorpio. Before there were the 12 houses in astrology there was one big serpent whose name I've forgotten. But you can still see it in the glyph of virgo and scorpio, virgo being the head of the serpent and scorpio being the lower half, with the genitals and tail. In the story of the serpent it was cut in half and Libra keeps the balance between the two.

yep, Ophiuchus - the serpent bearer - the 13th sign of the zodiac and associated with Aescupalias the Greek God of healing. The serpent was regarded as a potent symbol of healing and regeneration because of it's ability to shed its skin. Don't really like the little fuckers myself, as I sort of got bitten by one once (a story for another time), but it is a very interesting critter in certain native American cultures and, in fact, has been worshipped around the world - from Hindu to Nordic - since time immemorial.

SUPPORT NEEDED: Over 3,700 ppl mostly of age under 30 are suffering from recurring massive nosebleeding in Japan

September 27, 2013 at 7:02am
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In the planet we trust and are entrusted
Posted: 09/27/2013
Updated: 10/04/2013
FACTS: Previous compilations of tweets presenting facts discovered during the last 2 weeks (*Tweets are all in Japanese)

1. FACT: Over 5,000 ppl were reported of tweeting "nosebleed"（hanaji) over the past two-day period from 9/22-9/23 http://togetter.com/li/567445
   
2. FACT: Over 3,000 ppl were reported of tweeting "Can't stop my nosebleed" (hanaji ga tomaranai) during the week of 9/20-9/30 (as of 12am 10/01/2013 JST) http://togetter.com/li/568710
   
3. FACT: Over 2,500 ppl were reported of tweeting "I'm nosebleeding" (hanaji ga deta) during the short days of 9/28-9/30 (as of 12 am 10/01/2013 JST) http://togetter.com/li/570016
   
4. FACT: Over 600 ppl were reported of tweeting "Can't stop my nosebleed" during the 3 day period of 10/1-10/3 (as of 12 am 10/04/2013 JST) http://togetter.com/li/572299
   

ANALYSIS RESULTS:



Details: https://www.facebook.com/GivingTreeIntnl...088&type=1
WHAT THESE FIGURES MEAN:
(1) During the two-day period of 9/22-9/23, over 5,000 tweets were accounted with people tweeting "nosebleed" (Exact figure was 5,015 but my own comments and reactions have been deducted) nationwide. (2) Also during the period of 9/20-10/01, over 3,700 (Exact figure was 3,717 but my own comments and reactions were deducted) tweets were accounted with people tweeting "Can't stop my nosebleed" nationwide, signifying that the symptoms are recurring and massive in volume.
The compilation of nosebleeding tweets (1) has been filtered with the keyword of "hanaji ga tomraranai(鼻血が止まらない)", which evidently reduces the number of search results. When filtered just by the keyword of "hanaji(鼻血)" (2), there were over twice more in just two days. Thus the over 3,700 ppl accounted for the last 14 days are deemed to be inconclusive (there are in fact MORE; and there are more ppl WITHOUT Twitter).
Observation of the 14-day tweets compilation suggests that the tweeters are in average of the age under 30. Most of them are students (high-school and college students, perhaps some junior-high schoolers and elementary school children under parental care; there are some albeit very few reports from parents themselves), and new adults working part-time or full-time under the age of 30. The exact statistics of these cannot be known due to the complexity of figuring out the identity of the tweeters.
But this much we know:
The vast majority of these youth are under 30 (assumed) are not taking seriously of the nosebleed and are either often found joking about it or trying to handle the situation all by themselves. Because nosebleeding in Japan is often associated with having improper (often sexual) thoughts and fantasies, there is an inherent cultural barrier in Japan that restrain them from coming out in the open to admit it as a serious matter or even just letting the public know about it. But in fact the observation suggests that many of them are suffering from the (a) recurring, (b) massive in volume, and © enduring nosebleeding that are beginning to pose risks to their overall health by causing other symptoms such as low fever, headaches, nausea, and fatigue. Some are skipping schools and work due to them.
There is some hope since some of these people have started to take the matter seriously to seek medical help. Many suspect that the medical dysfunction of nosebleeding and other symptoms are caused by seasonal hay fever (ragweed pollen), stress, or fatigue. Japan's mainstream media as well as the medical institutions are not taking the matter as serious health risk and thus there are virtually no reports on these symptoms. The social media helped bring light to the issue, thanks to Twitter.
YOUR HELP IS NEEDED:
Without major medical warning or reports through the mainstream media, however, people cannot determine whether it is indeed a great health risk or not. There are no accumulated, reliable statistics on the issue of nosebleeding (at least not in Japan, either by the government or by the medical community) and thus people cannot make an objective judgement based on them (without the help of mainstream media). However, what we see on Twitter is only a tiny portion of what is happening in the real world. Thus the numbers found can be easily multiplied by ten or more (then can we say approx. 37,000 and in a week is a lot or not?). We can only FEEL the threat that this is a great health risk. That there are "way too many nosebleeding" going around.
As suggested before, the observed tweets strongly suggest that the reported nosebleedings are:

1. recurring;
   
2. massive in volume; and
   
3. enduring.
   

It has been observed that many tweeters have suffered the symptom for at least more than 3 days in a row, with symptom enduring for more than 30 minutes and up to 3 hours, which also defines massive quantity of blood being lost. We must let them know that this is NOT NORMAL and prompt them to seek immediate medical help or other assistance.
The following is a list of the 3,019 twitter accounts that have tweeted "Can't stop my nosebleed" for the past 11 days during September: https://www.facebook.com/GivingTreeIntnl...1334807089
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List of 596 twitter accounts that did the same for the past 3 days during the first week of October: https://www.facebook.com/GivingTreeIntnl...8243462089
I created a web survey to ask them of the level of their symptoms so as to ascertain their location (region) and the exact demographic distribution of symptoms in Japan nationwide. The survey, however has gone widely unnoticed. It is quite strange, given that my initial compilation of tweets (FACT1) have enjoyed over 30,000 views nationwide.
Web survey inquiring 7 simple questions on the status of nosebleeding and other symptoms with recommendation from a physician's website to seek medical attention:
(Japanese version)
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1G86nthe3TYO3TQa_3RbrNhKD0AvZ82HG77v5OZ8augU/viewform
(English version) NEW!
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1bFM9rQDgOC97dGupwLlO8hNxgIEbwBaR00n63Qilu6g/viewform
Responses received thus far (Japanese version): https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1G86nthe3TYO3TQa_3RbrNhKD0AvZ82HG77v5OZ8augU/viewanalytics
WHAT YOU CAN DO:
For Japanese Facebook and Twitter users, I've been asking for assistance to help spread the survey to as much of the affected people as possible using the list shown above. For users overseas, I would like to ask the following:

1. Help me create a database out of this massive list;
   
2. Help me find reliable statistics on nosebleeding in general vis-a-vis abnormal nosebleeding; and
   
3. Help me devise a way to bring in the international civic community's attention on the matter.
   

ANYONE'S HELP IS WELCOME
WE ONLY WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH
AND HELP OUR OWN PEOPLE FROM THEIR SUFFERING
FINAL NOTE: There was an unconfirmed report that the 400-ft. tall exhaust pipe at F1 have crumbled around 9/20 immediately following the M5.9 earthquake (Shindo 5-lower in JMA scale) epicentered in Fukushima causing massive radioactive pume from spreading across the country. There was also an unconfirmed report that government personnel (in particular the MoFA ppl) were ordered to evacuate to the Southern part of Japan in Kyushu or Okinawa to avoid the catastrophe. These unconfirmed reports (a.k.a. 'rumors') were quickly killed within the social media community without having any major media exposure. Days after the reports there are this report about increasing nosebleeding incidents, with common characteristics of 1) large volume, 2)enduring, 3)recurring patterns.

Magda Hassan Wrote:There are no accumulated, reliable statistics on the issue of nosebleeding (at least not in Japan, either by the government or by the medical community) and thus people cannot make an objective judgement based on them (without the help of mainstream media).

I really doubt the assertion that the Japanese government does not have accumulated, details stats on nosebleeds and other symptoms arising from Fukujima. I'm sure they do, in fact. But I'm equally sure they would not be made publicly available ---- for obvious reasons.

The most common symptoms of radiation poisoning:
[Looks to me that they have a BIG problem in the area around Fukishima - that will only get worse, quickly!]

Symptoms

• Bleeding from the nose, mouth, gums, and rectum
  
• Bloody stool
  
• Bruising
  
• Confusion
  
• Dehydration
  
• Diarrhea
  
• Fainting
  
• Fatigue
  
• Fever
  
• Hair loss
  
• Inflammation of exposed areas (redness, tenderness, swelling, bleeding)
  
• Mouth ulcers
  
• Nausea and vomiting
  
• Open sores on the skin
  
• Skin burns (redness, blistering)
  
• Sloughing of skin
  
• Ulcers in the esophagus, stomach or intestines
  
• Vomiting blood
  
• Weakness