14-09-2011, 12:40 AM
14-09-2011, 07:35 PM
This would be horrible if we had a National Health Care system, but it is nothing short of criminal in a privatized one! One would have to go to see a doctor [most Americans do NOT have a doctor and it would cost over $100 to get a prescription for some supplement of strong Vit. C, anti-cancer supplement, natural medicine for X, Y, Z etc.] Only Big Pharma [who is behind this] would benefit and profit. Health care would be more expensive and infinitely more limited. The trend in America - Privatize and destroy EVERYTHING....and the Sheeple bleat, but allow it to happen.
In recent years, they have been arresting mostly elderly Americans buying their legally prescribed drugs in Canada from the USA, as they are usually financially stressed and have to take many drugs - and the exact same drugs are half the price in Canada, as in the USA....again due to Big Pharma.
This is the logical end to any kind of healthcare in America.....the ultimate step [coming] is 'culling' those who are sick or deformed beforehand. Just bleed them until they are bankrupt and sick due to poverty, then eliminate them.....
In recent years, they have been arresting mostly elderly Americans buying their legally prescribed drugs in Canada from the USA, as they are usually financially stressed and have to take many drugs - and the exact same drugs are half the price in Canada, as in the USA....again due to Big Pharma.
This is the logical end to any kind of healthcare in America.....the ultimate step [coming] is 'culling' those who are sick or deformed beforehand. Just bleed them until they are bankrupt and sick due to poverty, then eliminate them.....
14-09-2011, 07:43 PM
I wish we could see a headline that said "People Getting Ready to Tell Gov't to Stuff It", as they are [it is] getting very intrusive with directives, between the FDA, the lemonade police, the raw milk police, and the movement towards mega-agriculture and the banishment of local production of foodstuffs. [I grew up in Amish lands, and a farmers' market wonderland of fresh produce and local knowledge about preservation.] I saw recently a mini-meme that said -- on the basis of mandated vaccination -- "I will take your shot... if you take mine first.":nurse:
14-09-2011, 08:30 PM
Peter; hi i didn't know that any elderly from the us had been arrested, i, we have not heard of that, as what they are doing is legal, they come across the boarder by bus, and each load takes their turn going in, as the info in the papers read...many, many also order by web, and they are delivered by mail....on the other side, here, for instance i happened to look up the price of a certain salve in the states, but by the time it gets here the price was exactly double, damn middle man again....it doesnt matter the whom or where you are, the big companys have us all by the butt....thanks...b
14-09-2011, 08:40 PM
Americans have begun buying their prescription drugs online from internet pharmacies based in Canada. If you've ever looked at some of these Canadian drug websites, you may have noticed that many of the drugs are 80% cheaper in Canada then they are in the United States, which begs several questions.
Firstly, Canadians pay fantastically less for the same medicines than Americans because the Canadian government stipulates a price ceiling at which they allow drug manufacturers to sell to Canadian drug distributors, and the government also controls the prices at which Canadian distributors can then sell those drugs to the public. So, the pharmaceutical industry is tightly regulated and price controlled by the Canadian government, resulting in very cheap, very affordable prescription drugs.
This socialized system for prescription drugs is not anywhere to be found in the United States. In the U.S., drug companies are allowed to sell medicines to the public at whatever prices the market can bear. Isn't that nice? We live in a country so free that our drug companies can charge us $350 for 20 tablets of Viagra or Cialis, whereas in Canada you can get it for $90.
As a result of these enormous price discrepancies, internet pharmaceutical suppliers in Canada have launched extensive marketing campaigns targeted at the U.S. to capitalize on the American demand for affordable prescriptions. Visit any search engine and type in the words "Canada drugs" or simply type in the name of any prescription drug you can think of, and you'll find a ton of Canadian-themed sponsored links for online pharmacies based in Canada selling drugs that are so cheap it makes your eyes pop.
But is this legal? According to the FDA, the importation or re-importation of drugs into this country from a foreign source is against the law. Simply put, it is technically illegal to buy drugs from Canada that were either manufactured in Canada or manufactured in the United States and then sold to Canadian distributors. Is this dumb? Absolutely.
The FDA says that they can't guarantee the "quality" of the drugs from Canada, that these drugs might be dangerous, that they might have been poorly manufactured or improperly formulated, or manufactured in facilities in Southeast Asia.
So, the FDA is dismissing the idea of allowing Americans to legally purchase drugs from Canada because the products might have been made in a bathtub in Cambodia, because I suppose Canadians are too dumb to make this stuff on their own. This is an absurd excuse on the part of the FDA.
The FDA could regulate the Canadian pharmaceutical trade, and investigate as to which Canadian pharmacies, online or offline, are making the drugs themselves and/or buying the drugs directly from American drug manufacturers, as opposed to those that are making them in foreign countries.
Most of the drugs sold by Canadian internet pharmacies are drugs that were made in the USA, and have simply been sold to Canadian distributors. Some of these drugs are manufactured by Canadian manufacturers. But rather than publish a buyers guide for Americans and allowing us to buy our drugs from "certified Canadian pharmacies", they make the whole practice illegal to increase the profitability of the American drug industry.
Yes, it is true that there are some rogue companies on the internet masquerading as Canadian pharmacies that are actually Mexican pharmacies that don't even have a doctor and pharmacist review your medical history before sending you the medicine.
But the FDA could easily set up a legal Canadian-American drug trade where the FDA makes it legal for Americans to buy their drugs from a select group of Canadian pharmacies that buy all their products directly from the U.S. or manufacture their drugs in the facilities of Canada's major drug companies.
This isn't likely to happen, however, because we have an administration in Washington that is for the corporations and by the corporations, and an FDA whose sole purpose is to protect the windfall profits of the drug manufacturers while allowing drug companies to make and sell hugely overpriced, noxious drugs that kill us, like Vioxx and others they've allowed onto the market that produce harmful and sometimes lethal side effects.
If the FDA sponsored a system of legal and regulated prescription drug buying from Canada, this would force American pharmaceutical companies to drop their prices by 80% to compete, resulting in a better situation for the consumer. The drug companies would still make profits, because the demand for the drugs would go up tremendously if they suddenly became affordable for people without health insurance, but the profits wouldn't quite be the same.
For the time being, Americans will continue to have to choose between buying food for their family or buying health insurance they can't afford that hardly covers the costs of the drugs they can't buy.
Firstly, Canadians pay fantastically less for the same medicines than Americans because the Canadian government stipulates a price ceiling at which they allow drug manufacturers to sell to Canadian drug distributors, and the government also controls the prices at which Canadian distributors can then sell those drugs to the public. So, the pharmaceutical industry is tightly regulated and price controlled by the Canadian government, resulting in very cheap, very affordable prescription drugs.
This socialized system for prescription drugs is not anywhere to be found in the United States. In the U.S., drug companies are allowed to sell medicines to the public at whatever prices the market can bear. Isn't that nice? We live in a country so free that our drug companies can charge us $350 for 20 tablets of Viagra or Cialis, whereas in Canada you can get it for $90.
As a result of these enormous price discrepancies, internet pharmaceutical suppliers in Canada have launched extensive marketing campaigns targeted at the U.S. to capitalize on the American demand for affordable prescriptions. Visit any search engine and type in the words "Canada drugs" or simply type in the name of any prescription drug you can think of, and you'll find a ton of Canadian-themed sponsored links for online pharmacies based in Canada selling drugs that are so cheap it makes your eyes pop.
But is this legal? According to the FDA, the importation or re-importation of drugs into this country from a foreign source is against the law. Simply put, it is technically illegal to buy drugs from Canada that were either manufactured in Canada or manufactured in the United States and then sold to Canadian distributors. Is this dumb? Absolutely.
The FDA says that they can't guarantee the "quality" of the drugs from Canada, that these drugs might be dangerous, that they might have been poorly manufactured or improperly formulated, or manufactured in facilities in Southeast Asia.
So, the FDA is dismissing the idea of allowing Americans to legally purchase drugs from Canada because the products might have been made in a bathtub in Cambodia, because I suppose Canadians are too dumb to make this stuff on their own. This is an absurd excuse on the part of the FDA.
The FDA could regulate the Canadian pharmaceutical trade, and investigate as to which Canadian pharmacies, online or offline, are making the drugs themselves and/or buying the drugs directly from American drug manufacturers, as opposed to those that are making them in foreign countries.
Most of the drugs sold by Canadian internet pharmacies are drugs that were made in the USA, and have simply been sold to Canadian distributors. Some of these drugs are manufactured by Canadian manufacturers. But rather than publish a buyers guide for Americans and allowing us to buy our drugs from "certified Canadian pharmacies", they make the whole practice illegal to increase the profitability of the American drug industry.
Yes, it is true that there are some rogue companies on the internet masquerading as Canadian pharmacies that are actually Mexican pharmacies that don't even have a doctor and pharmacist review your medical history before sending you the medicine.
But the FDA could easily set up a legal Canadian-American drug trade where the FDA makes it legal for Americans to buy their drugs from a select group of Canadian pharmacies that buy all their products directly from the U.S. or manufacture their drugs in the facilities of Canada's major drug companies.
This isn't likely to happen, however, because we have an administration in Washington that is for the corporations and by the corporations, and an FDA whose sole purpose is to protect the windfall profits of the drug manufacturers while allowing drug companies to make and sell hugely overpriced, noxious drugs that kill us, like Vioxx and others they've allowed onto the market that produce harmful and sometimes lethal side effects.
If the FDA sponsored a system of legal and regulated prescription drug buying from Canada, this would force American pharmaceutical companies to drop their prices by 80% to compete, resulting in a better situation for the consumer. The drug companies would still make profits, because the demand for the drugs would go up tremendously if they suddenly became affordable for people without health insurance, but the profits wouldn't quite be the same.
For the time being, Americans will continue to have to choose between buying food for their family or buying health insurance they can't afford that hardly covers the costs of the drugs they can't buy.