Ed:
I have to tell ya,this stuff smells pretty stinky to me.The videos don't convince me of anything,and indeed,make me even more suspicious.And how am I to believe this guy when he writes:
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Quote: A wounded soldier who dies even one minute after being rushed to a helicopter is not listed as dying in combat.
I'm not fooled...........This guy is BS.......
Keith Millea Wrote:Ed:
I have to tell ya,this stuff smells pretty stinky to me.The videos don't convince me of anything,and indeed,make me even more suspicious.And how am I to believe this guy when he writes:
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Quote: A wounded soldier who dies even one minute after being rushed to a helicopter is not listed as dying in combat.
I'm not fooled...........This guy is BS.......
And Lady Gaga = Amy Winehouse? Oh, come on.
I hear you Keith and Lauren, I just watched carefully the first three parts. I see the person posting them on the url citied by Ed didn't post the remaining ones as he felt the filmmaker was grasping at straws in some of his comparisons. Just on the first three, while there were some comparisons I didn't buy, others I found convincing enough to warrant further investigation. Long ago the Harley guy was found to have been an actor Mark Humphrey [with very bad lines] testifying to what happened [sic] on 911. He was also seen doing clean up work or a guard watching those on site there at ground zero, if I remember correctly. So, I think this filmmaker is on to something, although a few of this 'matches' don't match. You can't have an actor playing a congressperson, sorry....that insane the USA has not YET become. Some of the other things did bother me greatly, yet don't surprise me, at all. In sum, I don't think his entire body of work should be taken as anything near gospel, but the general phenomenon needs to be looked at further and some of his leads are definitely close ringers and very suspicious! I come away both even more suspect of what we see on video these days; what is 'real' and a bit suspicious of the filmmaker - but not convinced it is a psyop - more inclined to think he is overreaching on some of the doubles. Caveat emptor! The Dan Sheehan look alike doesn't look alike to me at all! - as others did not. While intel or military may well be involved in such 'games', I didn't find any convincing evidence of the oft repeated 'Seal Team Six', other than perhaps that some [maybe] were on that very suspicious facebook page. Needs more work by others! Boy, that ruined my morning....as some at 911 and OWS events, along with other events, are 'persons very likely to be true fakes/actors/agents posing as real citizens. In American, one really has to ask at every turn, "What is reality?" More to the point, have we begun to see a false-flag acting/intel corps?! Those 911 and Virginia Tech likenesses should keep anyone up at night and make the work of researchers that much more difficult and interesting!
Peter Lemkin Wrote:Boy, that ruined my morning....as some at 911 and OWS events, along with other events, are 'persons very likely to be true fakes/actors/agents posing as real citizens. In American, one really has to ask at every turn, "What is reality?" More to the point, have we begun to see a false-flag acting/intel corps?! Those 911 and Virginia Tech likenesses should keep anyone up at night and make the work of researchers that much more difficult and interesting!
Agreed. I think there is a mixture of very disturbing, credible stuff, to bullshit, to the bizarre. Is he trying for some kind of notoriety that can be parlayed into coin? Is he just plain nuts? Is he carrying out a disinformation campaign with some agenda? I think it is the latter.
To your question about the beginning of a false-flag acting/intel corps, is quite possible. Another question, is the machine leading the revolution against itself? Are we witnessing a much more sophisticated strategy of tension?
We are witnessing a generation that will believe anything. Witness Nibiru, Elinen, and on and on. Jon Benet Ramsey = Lady Gaga = Amy Winehouse. All actors who members of extremely wealthy families who run the world who live close to each other who get together to plot who is going to to do which acting job? The next thing will be that Shamir the Marine was playing the part of the left-handed OBL who claimed to take credit for 9/11. Hey, wait a minute.
"We shall know that our disinformation campaign was successful when everything that the American public knows is false." - William Casey, CIA DIRECTOR: 1981 - 1987
Forgive me folks for what appears to have been a drive-by post, straight from the seagull school of management (fly in, take a dump on someone, fly out), but right after I did so, I came down with the flu. (I am still trying to figure out how they embedded that virus inside the YouTubes.)
And I will have to re-bury my head in the pillow (having shaved, taken a slog or three of OJ and a slosh of some kind of Quil) in order to be ready to meet my holiday obligation of tending to a one-year old who has just learned to walk (and thus to explore).
The material is posted in several paces with several links in order to allow a wide range of people some time and freedom to explore the videos, statements, theories and evidence presented by this fellow Chiarini. I also e-mailed it widely. I am new to it all and haven't even had the opportunity to explore it all in depth myself. I am in the habit, especially here where we purportedly have unbiased minds sharpened and wizened in the ways of deep politics, psy ops, media utilization by state actors, and more, of posting this material so that it will be picked apart, the waste material thrown to the heap (including the entire carcass, if appropriate).
With regard to the facial recognition stuff, eyes, ears, etc., I think he's right on with one or three of his first examples but then takes liberty and license to stretch it to see if how widely that theory can be applied. I don't think he makes his case convincingly, although I will allow an open mind based on further exploration by others. in fact, yes, some of them are laughers.
However, there is one piece of footage (possibly more) - I shall return when the New Year is properly swaddled -- which, to my eye, is prima facie evidence of pre-knowledge, pre-scripting of a state crime against democracy and the murder of 3,000 US citizens, and that comes in what appears to be the "headers" and footers" of satellite-fed videos of line on-scene coverage on 9/11 in which the TV news reporter (for Fox?) approaches the curb in order to interview a "witness" and the witness says "I don't know what role I am supposed to play". There are lesser examples as well, but I'll stay focused on that one for the moment.
If there is video evidence of pre-knowleedge, pre-scripting, and role-playing during a live supposedly unforeseen event in which thousands of people were murdered and those actors can be connected back to Maurice Greenberg [I assume everyone here is truly conversant with his history, his role at AIG, the history of AIG, the role of AIG before, during and after impact on 9/11], then there is prima facie evidence of treason. [The connection to Goldberg is not necessary for the charge to be made.][ I assume All US citizens here can familiarize themselves with the applicable misprision of treason legislation.
I want someone here to tell me that what I am seeing is not what I saw, and to prove it.
Otherwise, when the New Year is properly suckled and swaddled, I have a raft of letters to write and mail (registered, signature of acceptance required) to prepare for mailing.
Back to my pillow.
Ed Jewett Wrote:I want someone here to tell me that what I am seeing is not what I saw, and to prove it.
Otherwise, when the New Year is properly suckled and swaddled, I have a raft of letters to write and mail (registered, signature of acceptance required) to prepare for mailing.
Back to my pillow.
Ed, I can't prove anything. I can only offer an alternative explanation. First, the guy who does not know what his role is yet, who may just be telling the truth. Clearly, he is standing by with several people walking up and talking to him. But I resist the temptation to feast on the offered explanation. Do I believe there were actors interviewed that day. Yes. Is this man an actor? Maybe and maybe not. He might be some guy waiting for further orders. If he were an actor waiting for a role, I suspect he would hang out somewhere off camera.
Sorry to hear about your flu.
Just to repeat again. There is freeware and cheap payware face matching software - and methods one can learn of what to look for [unchangeable angles and features, etc.]. More people need to work on these individuals and likely others; as in science the work must be reproducible by others and confirmed by others. I think many of the comparisons this person made are wrong and many others are correct. It is sad that Jack White is still not well, as he is quite an expert on exactly this kind of thing. Again, we knew about 'Harley Man', so this is not new....only the EXTENT of it is perhaps new; along with their bold use of the same people for multiple false-flag media ops...but that was done with Dallas and many other black ops I could name, so nothing new there either. How cooperative the person doing that work is in sharing the original videos and/or where they can be found on the internet will be important. Just one example, the man who he claims has the facebookpage with many of these intel-actors giving him the finger. That which he showed was a still photo and one can't tell if the person was 'giving the finger' or just had his finger near his nose...but seeing the original would likely tell. Etc. Since some of these people identified could be located and interviewed, some brave souls should do just that. Checking out the story of the facebook photos being removed needs to be checked-out etc. One can't blindly believe something so important. A lot of work will be needed, but some of those matches need little extra work - except to see if these people can be found in other intel-acting roles! If true, all those actors are now no longer usable. I'm sure there are many others to take their places.
My thoughts keep repeating......."A good disinformation artist always adds a few bits of truth to the otherwise lies."
Why even bother with a person who adds so many absurdities to his theory?
False trails everywhere....beware of punji pits! :noblesteed: