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Jim DiEugenio Wrote:So then, did Janney ask you to work on the book with him?

I mean did he know all this stuff about Damore getting the idea from Larry King appearance, that right wing nut Lucianna Goldberg fronting money for an anti Kennedy screed, and all these other people backing off, and Damore's sources being little more than bull sessions?

Did you talk to him about it before he started?

Look, Jim…….. Leo was a 'media slut', OK ? There's no other nice way to put it. Oh, he was so proud that Larry King added another half-hour to his show for more Q & A's concerning 'Senatorial Privilege'……… never been done before, said he. And at the time, his good friend, Dominick Dunne was trying to help him shop his yet-unwritten "Burden of Guilt" around Hollywood (Dunne's brother, John, was a screenwriter, married to Joan Didion).

With regards to my giving Peter any assistance in writing Mary's Mosaic (other than being interviewed)………. none. He just swooped down, offered me some dough for everything, and left. He had his 'award-winning' ace researchers, so didn't need me. You can pinpoint approximately when that occurred by his posts at the Ed. Forum.

Six years or so later, Skyhorse publishes Mary's Mosaic. It would be delicious to know why Trine Day was his first choice, and why he ended up at Skyhorse. Perhaps he didn't like the Company he had to keep with over there, i.e., Judyth Vary Baker et. al.

But then, Peter Janney is STILL a 'senior member' of Ralph Cinque's OIC, so worrying about what Company he keeps with is a moot point.

Bytheway, in a shameless act of self-promotion, I am tentatively set to be on Rob Clark's radio show sometime next month while in country for business. Guess who will be on the other end? That's right…… the Buda pest himself. Should be a real hum-dinger, not unlike the Kaiser-Hemming insultfest from a few days ago. Hope there will be some callers with questions. So many people have suffered because of Cinque. I mean, telling Mary Ann Moorman Krahmer she didn't take her photo is bordering on stalking. She should have sued him.

Hope this helps, Jim. Remember, this topic is what got you and Mr. Scully "erased" at the Ed Forum. Where's Mitchell ?

What was Burden of Guilt?

Was that a spec script Damore put together from SP?

Dominick Dunne! The guy who teamed with Mark Fuhrman to put a Kennedy cousin in jail?

OMG, Leo Damore was teamed up with Lucianna Goldberg and Dominick Dunne!!

That says it all, doesn't it?

Thanks so much for all this back scenes info. It more or less confirms what I thought Damore was up to and why his first publisher dumped him and he had to go to Regnery on SP. You are who you associate with. And to me, Goldberg and the late Dominick Dunne were about as low as you could go on the journalistic scale.

I am so glad that RFK Jr. ripped Dunne a new one after he wrote that hatchet job in Vanity Fair, that VF was stupid enough to publish without doing any cross checking. I hope everyone here has read that essay which I think was in The Atlantic. It was called " A Miscarriage of Justice", and it was so devastating that Dunne's response was sort of like a toddler screaming after he bruised his shins after falling.

Jim DiEugenio Wrote:What was Burden of Guilt?

Was that a spec script Damore put together from SP?

Dominick Dunne! The guy who teamed with Mark Fuhrman to put a Kennedy cousin in jail?

OMG, Leo Damore was teamed up with Lucianna Goldberg and Dominick Dunne!!

That says it all, doesn't it?

Thanks so much for all this back scenes info. It more or less confirms what I thought Damore was up to and why his first publisher dumped him and he had to go to Regnery on SP. You are who you associate with. And to me, Goldberg and the late Dominick Dunne were about as low as you could go on the journalistic scale.

I am so glad that RFK Jr. ripped Dunne a new one after he wrote that hatchet job in Vanity Fair, that VF was stupid enough to publish without doing any cross checking. I hope everyone here has read that essay which I think was in The Atlantic. It was called " A Miscarriage of Justice", and it was so devastating that Dunne's response was sort of like a toddler screaming after he bruised his shins after falling.

What was 'Burden of Guilt', you ask? 16th paragraph from the Introduction of 'Mary's Mosaic'.

Yes, Goldberg and Dunne set the tone for journalistic excellence that can still be felt today. Real news pioneers, not like my Uncle Bill……..right, Mr. Scully ?

Oh, Burden of Guilt was Damore's unfinished manuscript on MM.

In rereading Janney's intro, Sy Hersh was also interested in Damore's unfinished work also?

Man, Goldberg, Dunne, and Mr. Dark Side of Camelot.

Doesn't get much worse than that.

Jim DiEugenio Wrote:Oh, Burden of Guilt was Damore's unfinished manuscript on MM.

In rereading Janney's intro, Sy Hersh was also interested in Damore's unfinished work also?

Man, Goldberg, Dunne, and Mr. Dark Side of Camelot.

Doesn't get much worse than that.

Told you it got worse in an earlier post, Jim. Did we disappoint? Now, as a reward, can you tell Felipe Hemming if his pappy was telling the truth or not, or is that a Gordian knot ? On another thread, for another day, in another decade, perhaps. And then there's Prouty. +

Mark:

I was talking to Lisa Pease last night and I told her about our conversations and about the info on Hersh, Dunne and Goldberg. She got more and more sick at the mention of each name.

I myself always feared that this near psychotic hatred that certain rightwing power centers exerted to whoop up this anti Kennedy vindictiveness, was kind of dangerous. And would end up getting someone in real trouble. I wrote about this in my two part essay, "The Posthumous Assassination of John F. Kennedy". Which was first published in Probe and then in The Assassinations. Many people thought that was one of the best essays ever to appear in Probe. And that is where I first researched the Mary M case.

That you should bring up Dunne is really something. Because Dunne actually swallowed all this crap. And it got someone put in jail.

http://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs/iss...ennedy.htm

If you have not read the above essay you should. It shows just how bad the coverage of the Skakel case was and how much he was railroaded by Dunne and Fuhrman. Dunne got infatuated with Mark F during the Simpson trial, and did much through his contacts to rehab him after. Then, as payback, he got Mark to write a book on the Moxley case.

RFK Jr. did an excellent job on exposing all this in his award winning essay. Its incredible that he had to do this. But it shows how bad out MSM is on the subject.

And BTW, we all know who revived Dunne as a writer after his Hollywood career collapsed, don't we?

Yep, Tina Brown. Who's husband not just published Case Closed. ​He designed the ad campaign.

Jim DiEugenio Wrote:Mark:

I was talking to Lisa Pease last night and I told her about our conversations and about the info on Hersh, Dunne and Goldberg. She got more and more sick at the mention of each name.

I myself always feared that this near psychotic hatred that certain rightwing power centers exerted to whoop up this anti Kennedy vindictiveness, was kind of dangerous. And would end up getting someone in real trouble. I wrote about this in my two part essay, "The Posthumous Assassination of John F. Kennedy". Which was first published in Probe and then in The Assassinations. Many people thought that was one of the best essays ever to appear in Probe. And that is where I first researched the Mary M case.

That you should bring up Dunne is really something. Because Dunne actually swallowed all this crap. And it got someone put in jail.

http://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs/iss...ennedy.htm

If you have not read the above essay you should. It shows just how bad the coverage of the Skakel case was and how much he was railroaded by Dunne and Fuhrman. Dunne got infatuated with Mark F during the Simpson trial, and did much through his contacts to rehab him after. Then, as payback, he got Mark to write a book on the Moxley case.

RFK Jr. did an excellent job on exposing all this in his award winning essay. Its incredible that he had to do this. But it shows how bad out MSM is on the subject.

And BTW, we all know who revived Dunne as a writer after his Hollywood career collapsed, don't we?

Yep, Tina Brown. Who's husband not just published Case Closed. ​He designed the ad campaign.

Tina Brown…. our own 'Lady Evans' (this is where I get sick). The Tattler herself. Let's all believe The National Enquirer, too !! As well as Harper/Collins. Oh, Lordy !!! Keep slogging through this, Jim. Did you ever ask Stone if he remembered the letter E.G. gave him from me all those years ago?

He is still working on the Snowden movie.

I have a note to call him in a couple of weeks.

Please remind me then by PM.

Jim DiEugenio Wrote:He is still working on the Snowden movie.

I have a note to call him in a couple of weeks.

Please remind me then by PM.

I would like to personally thank Mr. Scully for posting the New Times article, as well as you sharing Bobby Jr.'s most excellent de-construction of the Skakel case. Of course I read it. I read everything. Just like Snowman. More to come. Peace on Earth. +

Mark A. O'Blazney Wrote:

Jim DiEugenio Wrote:He is still working on the Snowden movie.

I have a note to call him in a couple of weeks.

Please remind me then by PM.

I would like to personally thank Mr. Scully for posting the New Times article, as well as you sharing Bobby Jr.'s most excellent de-construction of the Skakel case. Of course I read it. I read everything. Just like Snowman. More to come. Peace on Earth. +

Good heavens, Mark. Don't you know the "rules." You are supposed to pick out some aspect of his post and then challenge him to respond -- over and over. ::laughingdog::

It never hurts to put out an atta-boy once in a while. We all need one once in a while.