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Tosh, how did the US Airborne weapons stashed (presumably securely?) on the island off Panama, after the Panama Task Force disbanded and returned home, get into the hands of the Mexican cartels?

Starting Sat May 09,2009 the Meria Heller Show and interview will be available on open forum on Meria's website; It was up for two days. However, I just got a call that its not on open website after to day.

David: When the 82nd and the 101st Air Borne held maneuvers in Honduras in 1985 (or there abouts) after the maneuvers were over some of the weapons and hardware was declared as damaged beyond repair in air drops and other "accidents " in the field. The record stated that these damaged an unrepairable hardware was destroyed. This hardware was taken of the GAO books. As a result the weapons, helicopter parts and 185 stinger missiles, as well as other material was shipped out of Honduras, by CIA operatives and pilots, to offshore Panama. This was before the Panama invasion and the overthrow of Noriega.

After the Panama war and the PDF was disbanded, some of these weapons were stolden from the security staff assigned to guard these weapons ect, however most were stolden or bought from the security teams of the "Old Guard of the PDF", by various factions of the Ocha and Escobar drug cartels and re routed to Colombia and some through Merxico to various associates of the cartels operating inside Mexico with the PRI and to some extent the DFS parties of Mexican politices.. (Agent field reports classified from DEA agent KiKI Camerena)

(This became known as "The Mexico CIA Thing" of which DEA agent KiKI Camarena found out about in his Mexico DEA field work as well as the private commercial use of C-130 cargo aircraft reg. to the Forest Service of the United States. This material was flown from Santa Elena Costa Rico and Panama to Columbia and Mexico. ( ref;toshplumlee.info Buedia murders and Susan Baldin and Hector Berliez Secret DEA report)

Today some of those old "Hard" weapons are showing up in Mexico in various drug cartel's and their gangs of young Mexicans. The ATF has many complete field reports on this but the old administration of Bush has not or did not authorized the ATF to press Mexico for the ID numbers on these weapons so as to cross check them to the old GAO and DCS reports. Their reason? It could harm relations with Mexico and damage the on going negotiations with Mexico over NFTA and other programs in progress and those pending agreements.

I think you can follow the rest of the story as to why we and the Mexican Army are "out-gunned" today... and too, the ATF field operatives, as well as the Mexican Army, has uncovered some of these misplace US Military weapons there were taken off the GAO books. Some of these lost weapons have been found, by accident, here in the United States in a Few Pawn Shops and a few Gun Shows, but that is only less than one percent of the missing weapons from the 1985 era. The ATF and Homeland Security will not declassifie these field reports. Now we will see what President Obama does with this highly classified information.

On a side note a few years ago there was a shoot out in LA at a bank hold-up. The bandits had automatice weapons and body armour.. those were traced back to the Honduras missing weapons of the 82nd Airborne. This information was never released by ATF on the Administration at the time.

Thanks Tosh, that explains things very well.

A secret United State Task Force team working in Mexico with the Mexican Army first ID the flu in March from intelligence information obtained from the Mexican Police .

This was covered to some degree in the interview done on the Meria Heller Show on May 5, 09; Interview with Tosh Plumlee:

Meria with Tosh Plumlee - The REAL Mexican virus in the U.S.



Meria Heller:.... Want to hear a sample from this show? Click here to download the mp3

Article AP Mexico



"Patient Zero" Identified in Mexican Flu Outbreak?

Mexican Health Secretary Jose Angel Cordova announced Monday evening that officials have identified who they believe to be the earliest known case of the swine flu outbreak: A four-year-old boy in the village of La Gloria , Veracruz , near the huge Granjas Carroll hog operation, which is co-owned by Smithfield Foods of Virginia. But Mexican hog industry leaders and the Governor of Veracruz State argued that the virus originated in China -- and passed through the United States before reaching Mexico .
"Government officials today said they believe the swine flu began in a small community next to a large pig farm in the southeastern state of Veracruz, where a four-year-old boy who got sick in April tested positive for the virus," reported ABC News, which called the small village "Ground Zero," and said the deadly virus "somehow spread to Mexico City." (Huffington Post reported this possibility on Sunday)
Until now, the first flu death confirmed by Mexican authorities had been a woman in the southern state of Oaxaca , who died on April 13. But Health Secretary Cordova on Monday "suggested an earlier timeline for documented swine flu cases," the Associated Press is reporting.
"Cordova said tests now show that a 4-year-old boy contracted the disease at least two weeks earlier in neighboring Veracruz state, where a community has been protesting pollution from a large pig farm," the AP says. "The farm is run by Granjas Carroll de Mexico, a joint venture 50 percent owned by Virginia-based Smithfield Foods, Inc."

Company officials said there were no "clinical signs or symptoms" of swine influenza in their vast herds anywhere in Mexico , "But local residents are convinced they were sickened by air and water contamination from pig waste," AP says. "There was a widespread outbreak of a particularly powerful respiratory disease in the area early April, and some people reported being sick as early as February. Local health workers intervened in early April, sealing off the town of La Gloria and spraying to kill off flies they said were swarming through their homes."

Cordova said people in the town had normal flu, and only one sample was preserved -- that belonging to the four-year-old boy. "It was only after U.S. and Canadian epidemiologists discovered the true nature of the virus that Mexico submitted the sample for international testing, and discovered what he suffered from," the AP is reporting, adding that the child has recovered and there have been no new cases reported in La Gloria, "But epidemiologists want to take a closer look at pigs in Mexico as a potential source of the outbreak."

A UN team of animal health experts is flying in from Rome to, "examine what surveillance systems are in place to detect swine flu, and review historical data on previous viruses identified in the country," AP says, adding that farmers will be interviewed.

Meanwhile, The Wall St. Journal reported Monday night that the Mexican government is testing Smithfield hogs in Mexico , though the huge company insists that its animals are not involved.
"We are very comfortable that our pork is safe," Smithfield president and chief executive Larry Pope told the newspaper. "This is not a swine issue. This is a human-to-human issue." He said Mexican agents had already paid site visits to some Smithfield facilities to test hogs and to "confirm that there is 'no incidence of this virus on our farms.'" Pope said that recent internet postings speculating on the origin of the new virus were "rumors," and repeated that, "We don't have any reason to believe that this has anything to do with Smithfield at all."
"We know of no pigs that are sick, no people on those farms that are sick and no people in our plants" who are sick, he said.
Meanwhile, the Governor of the State of Veracruz , Fidel Herrera, told reporters on Monday that the new virus originated in Asia , and "therefore it is not related to agricultural activity in the area." He said the virus began in China , and from there passed through the United States directly to Mexico City .

And according to El Universal newspaper, officials at Granjas Carroll México are now claiming that "the virus is of Eurasian origin -- and the first cases were found in the United States , making Mexico the receptor nation, more than the generator, of this influenza." No evidence was published to back up that claim, which runs contrary to statements made by nearly all international public health officials.
Also reported in the Mexican press today, Smithfield and Granjas Carroll have agreed to adopt government recommendations to "begin reinforcing its biosecurity measures to prevent workers and animals from being infected, the newspaper Reforma said.
Reforma also reported that Villagers in La Gloria are being threatened, harassed and even jailed for speaking out against the hog giant.

This information was brought up on this forum before these bodies were found near the ranch (pictures ranch posted mid March & 6 April 09)

The Drug war has crossed our borders..... notice how mainstrean media stays far away from this subject. These people in these graves must have caught the Mexican flu.

this Information was posted on this forum before the fact. pictures by TF7 and Mexican Army..... ref; Plumlee's work near Crater.

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Tosh
this is probably what JTF north and Mex intel were working on '''

"Yes These are the ones. There are more to come in the next few days... I got some good pictures I'll send you for your article. tosh ...".


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Siete cuerpos, al parecer del sexo masculino, fueron enterrados de manera clandestina en las fosas localizadas en el predio situado a 15 kilómetros del municipio de Rodrigo M. Quevedo, conocido también como Puerto Palomas de Villa.

La mayoría de los cadáveres presentaban características de ejecución y al parecer fueron privados de la vida en un punto distinto al lugar del hallazgo.

Alejandro Pariente Núñez, subprocurador de Justicia en la Zona Norte, dijo que el equipo especializado trabaja en la reconstrucción de los restos óseos, para practicar la necropsia de ley y determinar la causa de muerte de las víctimas, así como su identidad.

El hecho fue reportado a la Procuraduría General de la República para que coadyuve en las investigaciones de confirmarse una posible relación con el crimen organizado.

El subprocurador dijo que este hallazgo ocurrió tras recibir una denuncia anónima la noche del pasado 5 de mayo, a través de la cual una voz masculina reportaba la presencia de huesos y cuerpos enterrados en el área desértica.

“Derivado de una denuncia anónima se realizó un rastreo con personal de la Procuraduría General de Justicia del Estado (PGJE) adscrito al Distrito Galeana”, explicó.

Un equipo especialista en la localización y recuperación de cadáveres formado por peritos en Antropología y Arqueología Forense, así como peritos en criminalística de la PGJE, localizaron siete cuerpos en dos fosas.

Las fosas se encuentran en una zona inhóspita ubicada en un punto medio entre la colonia Guadalupe Victoria y Puerto Palomas, frontera con Columbus, Nuevo México.

A unos 16 kilómetros de ambas localidades, el cementerio clandestino es difícil de localizar no sólo porque el camino que conduce hasta el lugar se encuentra en condiciones poco transitables, sino porque los pobladores poco quieren hablar.

Los sepulcros eran de forma rectangular con una dimensión de 2 metros de largo por 1. 20 metros de ancho y con una profundidad de 50 centímetros, excavadas de forma regular una junta a la otra, con una separación de 60 cm entre ellas.

Pariente explicó que la fauna carroñera, como coyotes, roedores y aves, extrajeron algunos huesos que quedaron dispersos sobre la superficie.

El trabajo pericial realizado por los especialistas consistió en elaborar en la primera fosa, un inventario osteológico. Ahí se determinó que en el hoyo fueron enterrados de manera ilegal tres cuerpos, encontrándose en el relleno 1 casquillo de calibre aún por determinarse, así como restos de cinta “duct tape” (adhesiva) en forma de atadura con algunos filamentos adheridos.

En la segunda fosa, se encontraron 2 individuos esqueletizados completos, en posición anatómica y 2 individuos esqueletizados incompletos, removidos por los animales carroñeros.

También se localizó 1 casquillo de calibre por determinar. Además uno de los cuerpos se encontraba vestido y llevaba las manos atadas con la cinta adhesiva en conjunto con los pies y el cráneo cubierto con este mismo tipo de cinta.

Otro de los cuerpos se encontró vestido, con la manos esposadas en la espalda y el cráneo cubierto con la misma cinta gris.

Parte de los restos fueron esparcidos por la fauna carroñera fuera de las fosas por lo que se deberán clasificar cada una de ellas, para establecer de manera fehaciente a qué cuerpo pertenecen.

Pariente Núñez explicó que los laboratorios de Servicios Periciales y Ciencias Forenses realizan el análisis para la reasociación de los cuerpos, la limpieza de los restos óseos, el análisis osteológico que permitirá determinar el sexo, valoración de edad y estatura, de las víctimas.

Así como la identificación de señas particulares como patologías, huellas de actividad, huellas de violencia, entre otras; así como la descripción de los objetos asociados, y la toma de muestras genéticas.

Indicó que los investigadores buscan indicios sobre las identidades de las víctimas a través de los reportes de personas desaparecidas registrados en Palomas, Janos, Casas Grandes y Ascensión, Chihuahua, de donde presumen pueden ser originarias las personas inhumadas de manera clandestina.

Por este motivo, la PGJE solicitó la colaboración de las personas que hayan sufrido la desaparición de un familiar o conocido para que lo denuncien y se pueda realizar la prueba de ADN a fin de confirmar una posible correspondencia genética, se informó.

Según confirmaron de manera extraoficial autoridades de Ascensión, cabecera municipal de Guadalupe Victoria y Puerto Palomas, la propiedad en la que se encontraron los restos humanos pertenece al rancho La Colorada, pero de ahí no salió ningún habitante a responder sobre el hallazgo.

“El dueño del rancho vive en Casas Grandes, pero creemos que él no tiene nada que ver con esos cuerpos porque esa brecha siempre la ha utilizado pura gente que no se dedica a nada bueno”, asegura una fuente que pide no ser identificada.

Aunque en la zona sólo quedaron varios montículos de tierra de las excavaciones que se hicieron y dos fosas, versiones extraoficiales indican que las autoridades periciales de los municipios de Casas Grandes y Juárez realizaron al menos 10 hoyos de los que lograron extraer las osamentas.

Además quedaron una gran cantidad de mechones de cabello esparcidos por el terreno y los arbustos, retazos de tela, pedazos de cinta adhesiva color gris, piezas óseas, un casquillo calibre .45 y un intenso olor putrefacto.




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Ranch one location: (GPS hand held location) N 31 46' 49.96 W 107 01' 59.94 MX Ranch 1/2 mile south of new border fence. (3.5 miles south from NM hiway # 9 at mile marker #125 going to the south to new border fence ( #20 thru # 27 fence markers) Be careful its a very dangerous place.

note; S/E of this ranch about two or three miles is the place know as the "Crater". Its a volcanic mountain and on the north side is the crater. On the other side of the mountain (south) is another ranch in question... it could be the 'compond' you asked about.

It would be inside Mexico about four miles south of border ( at fence marker approx #17 on border road):

Before you get to the crater going S/E from ranch one, there is a fork in the road... the east fork goes to the crater and the other goes south around the mountain to the ranch.., from the ranch the south road goes to MX hiway # 2. At the fork in the road (north side of mountain) is where the Mexican Army is using two backholes and ground radar looking for bodies. I was told they found two last week.

... their cover story is they are digging a pipeline in that area. However, sensitive Mexican Army Task Force Intel reports they think aprox 200 bodies could be buried in this are from a shoot out south of Juarez a few weeks ago (or month perhaps 21 killed) They are going back into the area next week.

Previous post: April 09:

XXXXXXX yes...,this is what I was working on-----------------------------------


"... Ranch one location: (GPS hand held location) N 31 46' 49.96 W 107 01' 59.94 MX Ranch 1/2 mile south of new border fence. (3.5 miles south from NM hiway # 9 at mile marker #125 going to the south to new border fence ( #20 thru # 27 fence markers) Be careful its a very dangerous place.

note; S/E of this ranch about two or three miles is the place know as the "Crater". Its a volcanic mountain and on the north side is the crater. On the other side of the mountain (south) is another ranch in question... it could be the 'compond' you asked about.

It would be inside Mexico about four miles south of border ( at fence marker approx #17 on border road):

Before you get to the crater going S/E from ranch one, there is a fork in the road... the east fork goes to the crater and the other goes south around the mountain to the ranch.., from the ranch the south road goes to MX hiway # 2. At the fork in the road (north side of mountain) is where the Mexican Army is using two backholes and ground radar looking for bodies. I was told they found two last week.

... their cover story is they are digging a pipeline in that area. However, sensitive Mexican Army Task Force Intel reports they think aprox 200 bodies could be buried in this are from a shoot out south of Juarez a few weeks ago (or month perhaps 21 killed) They are going back into the area next week.





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Gulf Cartel Declares War on United States
Task Force 7 reported this back in March that it was in the works.... but the media drifted into the Swine flu coverage rather that report the Task Forces reports to the Pentagon... The killings will continue....while we set on our thumbs and do nothing... Its here. The Border War is on our soil....


MEXICO UNDER SIEGE

Sinaloa cartel may resort to deadly force in U.S.

Authorities say Joaquin 'El Chapo' Guzman, the reputed leader of the Mexican cartel, has given his associates the OK, if necessary, to open fire across the border.
By Josh Meyer

May 6, 2009

Reporting from Sells, Ariz. — The reputed head of Mexico's Sinaloa drug cartel is threatening a more aggressive stance against competitors and law enforcement north of the border, instructing associates to use deadly force, if needed, to protect increasingly contested trafficking operations, authorities said.

Such a move by Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman, Mexico's most-wanted fugitive, would mark a turn from the cartel's previous position of largely avoiding violent confrontations in the U.S. -- either with law enforcement officers or rival traffickers.

Police and federal agents in Arizona said they had recently received at least two law enforcement alerts focused on Guzman's reported orders that his smugglers should "use their weapons to defend their loads at all costs."

Guzman is thought to have delivered the message personally in early March, during a three-day gathering of his associates in Sonoita, a Mexican town a few miles south of the Arizona border, according to confidential U.S. intelligence bulletins sent to several state and federal law enforcement officials, who discussed them on the condition of anonymity.

The Sonoita meeting is considered one of several signs that Guzman is becoming more brazen even in the face of a Mexican government crackdown on his activities and continued turf rivalries with other traffickers.

Information from informants, wiretaps and other sources have prompted a flurry of warnings to authorities in U.S. border states, instructing them to use extreme caution when confronting people suspected of smuggling drugs and illegal immigrants from Mexico or ferrying weapons and cash south from the United States, officials familiar with those warnings said.

Some U.S. intelligence officials suggested Guzman was on the defensive because of enforcement efforts on both sides of the border and because he can no longer afford to ditch valuable cargoes when challenged by rivals or authorities.

Michele Leonhart, acting administrator of the Drug Enforcement Administration, said Mexican smugglers were also under pressure because their Colombian partners were no longer extending them credit. "There's a need to get the cash back itself quicker and faster," Leonhart said.

U.S. authorities say Guzman has become increasingly intent on gaining dominance over smuggling routes in Mexico and the United States. To do so, they say, he has escalated his assault on some rival smugglers while forging alliances with others.

"Chapo is at the forefront of the efforts to control the routes into the United States," said Thomas M. Harrigan, the chief of operations for the DEA.

He said virtually all of the violence remained in Mexico, but U.S. authorities were alarmed that attacks on police, soldiers, government officials, journalists and other potential opponents had intensified near the border.

How much risk that poses to U.S. authorities "depends on how desperate the cartels become to move their cargo in the U.S.," said Dan Wells, commander of the Arizona Department of Public Safety's Intelligence Bureau.

So far, the contrast has been stark -- near-daily violence in Mexican border towns with relative tranquillity on the U.S. side, according to data and interviews with law enforcement officials in the region.

For example, Ciudad Juarez had 100 times as many homicides in the 14 months ending in February as neighboring El Paso, which is roughly half its size. In 2008, Nogales in Mexico's Sonora state had 40 times as many homicides as Nogales, Ariz., which is roughly one-ninth as populous.

Deeper into the United States, narcotics agents say they have seen little evidence of spillover from Mexican drug war violence beyond an increase in ransom kidnappings related to collection of drug debts.

But near the Mexico-Arizona border, Robert W. Gilbert, chief patrol agent for the U.S. Customs and Border Protection's Tucson sector, said confrontations between law enforcement and suspected traffickers -- and among traffickers themselves -- had grown more violent.

A shootout occurred several weeks ago when one group allegedly tried to hijack another's load of drugs on one of the main roads leading north to Phoenix. Two of the suspected traffickers were wounded.

"Times have changed," Gilbert said. "The tactics, the aggressiveness. We're victims of our own success." Now, he said, "they'll fight us."

An internal report from the agency, obtained by the watchdog group Judicial Watch, appears to support Gilbert's assessment. It shows reported weapons-related assaults against border officers rose 24% last fiscal year, compared with 2007, and assaults involving vehicles rose 7% in the same period.

Among areas with sharp increases in assaults was the Tucson corridor, the report said. Mario Escalante, a spokesman for the Border Patrol's Tucson sector, said there were 113 assaults against agents in the sector between October and March, and an additional 26 last month.

"They're losing money and they are frustrated, and they are using other tactics to get their loads across," Escalante said.

The tactics include throwing barrages of rocks at agents, ramming their cars into agents' vehicles and sometimes shooting. He said the Guzman warning had put agents on edge.

When authorities stopped a vehicle in Douglas, Ariz., several weeks ago, traffickers on the Mexican side of the border "laid down suppressive fire" to stop U.S. officials from advancing, enabling the vehicle to make it back across the border with a load of marijuana intact, one Immigration and Customs Enforcement official said in an interview.

Arizona Atty. Gen. Terry Goddard said there appeared to be a shift in the rules of engagement on the part of traffickers affiliated with Sinaloa and other cartels.

"They've got to get the dope through, or they won't get paid. . . . These guys are under orders. . . . They have rules of engagement and they follow this direction."

One member of the Shadow Wolves, American Indian trackers who patrol the Tohono O'odham reservation for the Department of Homeland Security on the Arizona border, said that in the past, weapons were largely used by traffickers to protect themselves from bandits.

"But lately, [the bulletins have warned] that they've been carrying them to engage law enforcement," the tracker said.

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"... Coyote Hill and Guzman lookout Mountain east of Colombus New Mwxico should be watched veryclose these next few weeks. ...". (Tosh)


From previous EMails in March:

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Ranch one location: (GPS hand held location) N 31 46' 49.96 W 107 01' 59.94 MX Ranch 1/2 mile south of new border fence. (3.5 miles south from NM hiway # 9 at mile marker #125 going to the south to new border fence ( #20 thru # 27 fence markers) Be careful its a very dangerous place.

note; S/E of this ranch about two or three miles is the place know as the "Crater". Its a volcanic mountain and on the north side is the crater. On the other side of the mountain (south) is another ranch in question... it could be the 'compond' you asked about.

It would be inside Mexico about four miles south of border ( at fence marker approx #17 on border road):

Before you get to the crater going S/E from ranch one, there is a fork in the road... the east fork goes to the crater and the other goes south around the mountain to the ranch.., from the ranch the south road goes to MX hiway # 2. At the fork in the road (north side of mountain) is where the Mexican Army is using two backholes and ground radar looking for bodies. I was told they found two last week.

... their cover story is they are digging a pipeline in that area. However, sensitive Mexican Army Task Force Intel reports they think aprox 200 bodies could be buried in this are from a shoot out south of Juarez a few weeks ago (or month perhaps 21 killed) They are going back into the area next week.





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I am boxing myself in.... when I need some help I do hope some remember these postings.....and go back to others. The specialized American Mexican Task Force Team needs your support.... this is a very dangerous game we are playing..... someone might be needed to bring it all together in case things turn sour during these next few days..... Well that is more information for you... before the fact.... now we will see if this is a forum of action or entertainment. I'm not sure anymore.... tosh

Descartan a Perote como propagador de brote de influenza Escrito por Redacción ElGolfo.Info/Carolina Miranda Viernes, 24 de Abril de 2009 14:02 El sector salud de Veracruz investiga dos casos probables de influenza, aunque aún no confirman ni descartan la presencia del virus, confirmó el jefe de la Jurisdicción Sanitaria V, Orlando Uscanga Muñoz.

Entrevistado en los pasillos de Palacio de Gobierno, si descartó que el brote epidemiológico que está latente en el Estado de México y el Distrito Federal haya iniciado en la región de Perote.

Precisó que en ese municipio si se registraron varios casos de niños que presentaron cuadros infecciosos respiratorios, pero negó que se tratará del virus de la influenza.

“No tenemos todavía casos registrados, pero tenemos dos probables que se deben descartar o confirmar, están en el CEM internados”, enfatizó.

El funcionario de salud aseguró que la Jurisdicción Sanitaria esta alerta y preparados para evitar que se propague esta enfermedad en la región de Xalapa.

Comentó que en los 33 municipios que comprende la Jurisdicción habitan un millón de personas, sin embargo, recordó que el sector vulnerable son los niños menores de 5 años y los adultos mayores de 60.

“Queremos que la gente no se alarme, tenemos todo lo necesario, el parque esta completo y los soldados estamos listos; estaremos haciendo hincapié y checando esquemas de vacunación”, agregó.

So these are bodies found on the US side of the border? And they have found seven but expect there are 200 or so bodies in that vicinity? Are the victims thought to be Mexican or US nationals? In any case they are human beings and it is shocking to see anyone end up in a ditch in the middle of no where. All for what? The only antibody for that kind of virus is a bullet proof vest and even then...The task force are using the cover of pipe laying crew?

Tosh, I can't seem to access the photo links below. They just take me to Yahoo sign in.

Magda: those three pictures are the same as the three which did show below the xed out ones. I do not know how this happen. Also other pictures and there locations were posted around the first of April on a previous thread on the DPF.

In case some missed the interview on the Meria Heller Show, it is up on her website again http://meria.net/ click "free sample (here) and you should be able to hear the interview. It covers some of the postings on tfound on this forum in reference to the border drug wars.

Those seven bodies were found on the Mexican side of the border near the ranch (photos) Polamas Mexico across from Colombus NM. Others have been found on this side (US) of the border. However, this has not been released as yet because its an "ongoing" investigation.

You heard it first on this Forum.