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CIA attempts to topple Ahmadinejad at SCO Yekaterinburg summit - Paul Rigby - 16-06-2009 Ah, yes, another of those spontaneous “colour revolutions” – and hard on the heals of Obama’s terribly sincere apology for 1953 and all that: Quote:The elected Iranian leader attends SCO meeting: CIA attempts to topple Ahmadinejad at SCO Yekaterinburg summit - Magda Hassan - 17-06-2009 Yes, going on holidays or overseas can often be fatal for leaders. It seems strange that there are thoughts that the election was stolen as it was widely predicted that Ahmadinejad would win as he was polling 2:1 against the opposition. He is generally quite popular in Iran. The opposition candidate did not come in to play until late in the day and polled poorly even amongst his own ethnic group. He also has close ties to the Iran Contra happenings. Below is an interesting piece from a blog I know nothing about and who usually discuss stock market stuff but it look interesting. Seems that it is a manufactured opposition to the election outcome just like Ukraine, Georgia, etc, etc, etc. basically anywhere the US don't like the election outcome. http://www.chartingstocks.net/2009/06/proof-israeli-effort-to-destabilize-iran-via-twitter/ Proof: Israeli Effort to Destabilize Iran Via Twitter #IranElection Monday, June 15, 2009 19:52 Posted in category Politics Right-wing Israeli interests are engaged in an all out Twitter attack with hopes of delegitimizing the Iranian election and causing political instability within Iran. Anyone using Twitter over the past few days knows that the topic of the Iranian election has been the most popular. Thousands of tweets and retweets alleging that the election was a fraud, calling for protests in Iran, and even urging followers hack various Iranian news websites (which they did successfully). The Twitter popularity caught the eye of various blogs such as Mashable and TechCrunch and even made its way to mainstream news media sites. Were these legitimate Iranian people or the works of a propaganda machine? I became curious and decided to investigate the origins of the information. In doing so, I narrowed it down to a handful of people who have accounted for 30,000 Iran related tweets in the past few days. Each of them had some striking similarities - 1. They each created their twitter accounts on Saturday June 13th. 2. Each had extremely high number of Tweets since creating their profiles. 3. “IranElection” was each of their most popular keyword 4. With some very small exceptions, each were posting in ENGLISH. 5. Half of them had the exact same profile photo 6. Each had thousands of followers, with only a few friends. Most of their friends were EACH OTHER. Why were these tweets in English? Why were all of these profiles OBSESSED with Iran? It became obvious that this was the work of a team of people with an interest in destabilizing Iran. The profiles are phonies and were created with the sole intention of destabilizing Iran and effecting public opinion as to the legitimacy of Iran’s election. I narrowed the spammers down to three of the most persistent - @StopAhmadi @IranRiggedElect @Change_For_Iran I decided to do a google search for 2 of the 3 - @StopAhmadi and @IranRiggedElect. The first page to come up was JPost (Jerusalem Post) which is a right wing newspaper pro-Israeli newspaper. JPost actually ran a story about 3 people “who joined the social network mere hours ago have already amassed thousands of followers.” Why would a news organization post a story about 3 people who JUST JOINED TWITTER hours earlier? Is that newsworthy? JPost was the first (and only to my knowledge) major news source that mentioned these 3 spammers. JPost, a major news organization, promoted these three Twitterers who went on the be the source of the IranElection Twitter bombardment. Why is JPost so concerned about Iranian students all of a sudden (which these spammers claim to be)? I must admit that I had my suspicions. After all, Que Bono? (who benefits). There’s no question that Israel perceives Iran as an enemy, more so than any other nation. According to a recent poll, more than half of Israel’s population support using military force against Iran if they do not cease from developing nuclear energy (which they have the legal right to do as per the NNP treaty). Oddly enough, this comes out of a country which is not a cosigner to the NNP treaty and has no right to develop nuclear energy, yet posses an arsenal of nuclear BOMBS. Of course, Mousavi himself plays an important role in causing the social unrest within Iran. How often do you see a candidate declare himself the winner before any votes are counted and then, when faced with defeat, call the entire election process a fraud? As obvious as it was in our own 2000 election, Al Gore would not touch the topic of voter fraud. No major US politician goes near the subject. They know full well that such an accusation would shake the entire foundation of our democracy and threaten the political structures that are in place. These twitting spammers began crying foul before the final votes were even counted, just as Mousavi had. The spammer @IranRiggedElect created his profile before a winner was announced and preformed the public service of informing us in the United States , in English and every 10 minutes, of the unfair election. He did so unselfishly, and without any regard for his fellow friends and citizens of Iran, who don’t speak English and don’t use Twitter! Meet The Spammers IranRiggedElect 3146 followers. 31 friends. 340 tweets in past 4 days. none before that. Top 5 words - iranelection, cnnfail, mousavi, tehran, All tweets in English Time: Bulk between 12pm and 2pm eastern standard time Most retweets: @StopAhmadi @IranElection09 @change_for_iran Change_for_Iran 14,000 followers. 0 friends 117 tweets in 2 days. none before that. All tweets in English Time: Bulk between 8:00 pm and 11:00 pm eastern. Top 5 words: iranelection, people, police, right, students No retweets IranElection09 800 followers. 9 friends. 196 tweets in 3 days. none before that. 185 in English. 11 in Farsi (Arabic appearing letters. Not sure if it’s Farsi) Time: bulk between 2:00pm and 6:00pm eastern. Also 1:00am. Top 5 words: iranelection, rt, mousavi, tehran, march Most retweets: @IranRiggedElect @StopAhmadi StopAhmadi 6199 followers. 53 friends. 1107 tweets in past 3 days. None before then. top 5 words: iranelection, ppl, news, rt, iran. All tweets in English Time: bulk between 9:00am and 5:00pm eastern Most retweets: @mohamadreza @mahdi mohamadreza 1433 followers. 142 friends (protected account. cant see data) The following all have the same photo in their profile and are followed by the profiles previously mentioned. http://twitter.com/SadeqEn http://twitter.com/greenvote http://twitter.com/Change_for_Iran (14,000 followers) http://twitter.com/iranbaan http://twitter.com/sdavood http://twitter.com/IranElection09 (800 followers. 9 friends.) Click below for the JPost Article [Update 1] Reuter’s on Pre-election Polling: Ahmadinejad lead by a 2-to-1 ratio, greater than the announced results of the “contested” vote. [Update 2]NBC foreign correspondent Richard Engel says Twitter and Facebook are helping Iranians organize a “revolution.” [Update 3] Wonder where all of the nasty comments are coming from? FYI- DDOS = distributed denial-of-service (DDoS) attack is one in which a multitude of compromised systems attack a single target, thereby causing denial of service for users of the targeted system. (Recognize the avatar?) BUT….their latest spamming campaign (Against CS) is backfiring. Spammers get a taste of their own medicine!: Block CS eh? It’s not us being blocked….. [Update 4] The Guardian: Iran’s election result may not be fraudulent. Our polling suggests that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s victory is what voters wanted Disclaimer: Before I get attacked as being an Anti-Semite,you should know that I am half Jewish. Alternatively, I hope that people do not misinterpret this as some “JEWISH” conspiracy. It isn’t. These are the workings of the extreme right wing of Israeli politics. They have their own Bush’s and Cheney’s there too. CIA attempts to topple Ahmadinejad at SCO Yekaterinburg summit - David Guyatt - 17-06-2009 There was that certain "whiff" about it that seemed familiar to me. CIA attempts to topple Ahmadinejad at SCO Yekaterinburg summit - Peter Presland - 17-06-2009 That's substantial and very interesting stuff on Twitter Magda. I've been immersed in the Iranian thing for a couple of days now. The conclusion I have come to (provisionally as always) is that the election results are genuine - Lots of jiggery-pokery involved perhaps, but probably reflecting the Iranian electorate fairly accurately nonetheless. I've been torn between Juan Cole who I respect and whose opinion is hardening towards there having been massive fraud and others who take the opposite view and whom I equally respect. Foremost among the latter is a regular Asia Times columnist M K Bhadrakuma. He is a retired Indian diplomat and always worth reading on any geo-political issue. Interestingly his latest piece in todays AT mentions twitter too - though in scant detail compared to your post but containing one of those eureka tid-bits. It's a long article and well worth reading in full, but here's the 'eureka-moment' twitter bit: Quote: The Obama administration faces difficult choices. The stir in Tehran is fast becoming a "Twitter revolution". No such thing has ever happened there, despite the best efforts of former US vice president Dick Cheney and his covert team for well over four years for triggering "regime change".His article yesterday is also worthy of attention I have no doubt whatsoever that there has been extensive covert financial support and prodding by western agencies in the whole thing. Rafsanjani is one of Iran's wealthiest men. In spite of historical issues between them Mousavi is his man and their vocal support has been aptly described as the Tehran Gucci set. Not difficult to spot where Western Elites judge their interests to lie eh? But the US does appear to be making strenuous efforts to appear NOT to have interfered - having apparently used European and Israeli 'assets' to do the legwork. I think events may show that they have been just a little too smart here though. 'Plausible deniability' is useful when dealing with credulous fools but the Iranian leadership have been on the receiving end of it for long enough to know EXACTLY what's going on. CIA attempts to topple Ahmadinejad at SCO Yekaterinburg summit - Magda Hassan - 17-06-2009 I have been keeping a weather eye on it. A bit unsure about what to make of it initially which is why I didn't reply to Peter L's post as I didn't quite have it sorted. I'm not sure I entirely do now either but it certainly seems that other interested parties are trying to foment unrest. The other candidate was obviously the Wests tool of choice. Ahmadinejad wont dance with the West on their terms. From my two Iranian friends it seems that Ahmadinejad is genuinely popular there though they don't like him or the politics of Iran much given the constraints of the mullahs in running the show lock, stock and barrel. Yes, I read Juan Cole's take on the elections and he does put a good case forward for fraud but then there is Robert Fisk Quote:http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-iran-erupts-as-voters-back-the-democrator-1704810.htmlThe whole twitter thing had shades of the recent Moldavian exercise in manufactured revolutions. I saw the protest in NY and the printed signs, the designer clothes and sunglasses and thought 'here we go again'. Like Venezuelan matrons banging their unfamiliar saucepans and getting their maids to walk with them in the protest march. It doesn't quite pass the smell test, for me anyway. And of course qui bono? CIA attempts to topple Ahmadinejad at SCO Yekaterinburg summit - Peter Presland - 17-06-2009 Here's another long thoughtful piece from Mark Levine from Al Jazeera. Frankly I do not know what to make of it all. It's obvious where Western Establishments see their own interests and, that being so, it is easy to see their hand in events to destabilise and upset the announced results. OTOH there do appear to be very deep divisions in Iranian society for them to work on and drive wedges into. I think analogies with South America - particularly Chavez's Venezuela are valid and useful (it's at bottom a class thing with powerful monied interests seeking to wrest control) but I'm less sure of the outcome right now. Quote:In 15 years of writing about the Middle East, I have never encountered a situation that changed so fast that one could write an article that becomes outdated in the time it takes to write it. It seems that the Iranian elite has been caught similarly off-guard, and is still trying to read its own society to understand how broad is the societal discontent reflected in the mass protests. CIA attempts to topple Ahmadinejad at SCO Yekaterinburg summit - Paul Rigby - 17-06-2009 Paul Rigby Wrote:Ah, yes, another of those spontaneous “colour revolutions” – and hard on the heals of Obama’s terribly sincere apology for 1953 and all that... Excellent page here: http://informationclearinghouse.info/article22839.htm The YouTube short found at the bottom of the page can also be viewed here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRwUZ-u6KFo CIA attempts to topple Ahmadinejad at SCO Yekaterinburg summit - Paul Rigby - 17-06-2009 Paul Rigby Wrote:Paul Rigby Wrote:Ah, yes, another of those spontaneous “colour revolutions” – and hard on the heals of Obama’s terribly sincere apology for 1953 and all that... MI6 in the building, Aunty? http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/iranprop.php CIA attempts to topple Ahmadinejad at SCO Yekaterinburg summit - Mark Stapleton - 18-06-2009 Magda Hassan Wrote:Below is an interesting piece from a blog I know nothing about and who usually discuss stock market stuff but it look interesting. Seems that it is a manufactured opposition to the election outcome just like Ukraine, Georgia, etc, etc, etc. basically anywhere the US don't like the election outcome. Quite a find, Magda. That Chartingstocks person did some neat detective work here, although I notice some on that blog blew him a raspberry for it. Unsurprising that the bastion of international goodwill (all we desire is peace) would try to shake a political revolution out of the election result. It's not as messy as bombing them. In the end, the old mullahs might just decide to give the middle class a bit more social freedom, which can't be a bad thing. CIA attempts to topple Ahmadinejad at SCO Yekaterinburg summit - David Guyatt - 18-06-2009 Paul Rigby Wrote:MI6 in the building, Aunty? MI6 never leave the building... |