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Police find body in bag at MI6 man's London flat - Jan Klimkowski - 11-10-2010 Former US Army Counter Intelligence Corps agent Trowbridge H Ford argues that it was an NSA hit as part of the cleaning up of the "Manhattan 11" sexy Russkie sleeper spy woman "Anna Chapman" fiasco, in two long articles here: http://codshit.blogspot.com/2010/09/why-americas-nsa-and-britains-gchq.html http://codshit.blogspot.com/2010/10/why-americas-nsa-and-britains-gchq-had.html The "Anna Chapman" alleged link was first leaked to British tabloid The Daily Star at the end of August. This is relevant. The Daily Star is basically a porn picture sheet with news usually expressed in monosyllables. Indeed, I'm surprized that "Red Anna" isn't pictured pouting topless in their coverage. It is therefore all the more astonishing, and provocative, that the Daily Star appears to have received an exclusive leak about this alleged link and other details of the investigation: Quote:DEAD SPY GARETH WILLIAMS LINKED TO RED ANNA http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/151344/Dead-spy-Gareth-Williams-linked-to-red-Anna/ Trowbridge Ford's core allegation appears to be that the NSA used illegal domestic wiretaps/surveillance to entrap the "Manhattan 11" and this would have been exposed in American courts if they had not been rapidly exchanged for western spies. The mysterious "mediterranean couple" who called at the New Rodina-registered MI6 safe house are alleged to be Anna Chapman's former husband Alex Chapman, and her former roommate Lena Savitskaya. Ford further alleges that codebreaker Gareth Williams was considering "blowing the whistle" on the illegal surveillance techniques, and was therefore assassinated by slow-acting mushroom poison. Quote:The Bureau's concerns were that spy prosecutions would be seen as the result of an institutionalized fishing expedition for months - what violated the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution about unreasonable searches, and that the "wall" between intelligence and criminal squads had been broken through during the process."The FBI then decided to allow only agents and analysts assigned to intelligence duties access to FISA materials, not the criminal investigators." (26) For good measure, anyone who reviewed transcripts of domestic electronic surveillance must sign a certification that court approval was required before they were handed over to criminal prosecutors. None of this was done, and the Bureau's leaderhip would be in serious trouble if it were exposed by someone with inside credibility. There's a photo and interview with Lena Savitskaya at the link below: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1315056/Agent-Anna-The-Man-Hunter-London-flatmate-reveals-Russian-spy-used-sex-prey-string-oligarchs.html A photo of Alex Chapman can be seen here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1291380/Russian-spy-ring-British-husband-femme-fatale-spy-speaks-secret-meetings-Russian-friends.html I'm not convinced that Alex 'n Lena are the "mysterious mediterranean couple". Some of the other details of Trowbridge H Ford's hypothesis seem stretched too. Would MI6 codebreaker Gareth Williams really have decided to expose illegal NSA activity after complete strangers Alex and Lena turned up unannounced at his flat? Williams was surely involved in similarly illegal activity almost every day of his working life for MI6 and/or the NSA. Also, although the "Manhattan 11" incident is very murky, there does seem to have been espionage of a single/double/triple nature involved, and thus, to an MI6/NSA employee like Williams, surely the use of illegal surveillance to identify "sleeper spies" would have been justified. I do believe Williams may have been murdered because he was about to blow the whistle on illegal behaviour by an intelligence agency, perhaps involving money laundering or targetted assassinations in Afghanistan. But domestic surveillance? Anyone who spends more than a nanosecond looking at the evidence knows that our intelligence agencies collect and monitor as much information as they can about us all - whether citizens or foreign nationals. So, I'm not even convinced it's possilbe to "blow the whistle" on this matter, because it's already public domain. With respect to Trowbridge Ford, who has written many important articles, I'm not buying into this one in the absence of further evidence. Police find body in bag at MI6 man's London flat - Jan Klimkowski - 11-10-2010 Background on death cap mushroom poisoning here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_phalloides Quote:Amanita phalloides (generally pronounced /æməˈnaɪtə fəˈlɔɪdiːz/), commonly known as the death cap, is a deadly poisonous basidiomycete fungus, one of many in the genus Amanita. There's a pdf scientific paper on the "Weaponization of Mycotoxins" here: http://truthaboutmold.info/yahoo_site_admin/assets/docs/Weaponisation_of_Mycotoxins_2010.109144145.pdf Given Gareth Williams had an 85% chance of survival if he'd taken himself to the right doctor, I don't consider death cap mushrooms to be a particularly likely choice of poison by an intelligence agency intent on killing a presumed national security threat. But then the early articles stated that Williams had been stabbed several times, and then there's the mysterious fluid he was drenched in.... Police find body in bag at MI6 man's London flat - Paul Rigby - 12-10-2010 Is involvement in negotiations/covert ops in Afghanistan injurious to MI6 officers' health? Norgrove's career had "spook" written all over it: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/oct/11/linda-norgrove-afghanistan Quote:Linda Norgrove may have been killed by US special forces The assassination of Norgrove, taken in conjunction with that of Williams, seems to firm up the suspicion that MI6 has been a) engaged in some form of controversial work in Afghanistan; b) that this work is most likely to do with negotiations for withdrawal; and c) is being targeted by one or more US faction(s) opposed to such moves. Police find body in bag at MI6 man's London flat - Peter Lemkin - 12-10-2010 This mystery has more twists and turns than a corkscrew. We're back to mystery fluid...and lots of new changes and clues [real or red-herrings?]...... However, as a toxicologist the mushroom described would be a stupid choice....there are much better mushrooms and even 'better' more exotic poisons knows to the secret services and 'others'. That part is definitely red-herring. Certainly the U.S. British, Russians and several other countries intel agencies could have done this professionally. BUT it is CLEAR that to the rather great extent the UK's MI5/6 know what did or might have happened, they prefer to just weave a web of confusion and obfuscation. I imagine in the end we'll know as much about this as of who/what/why for the 134.5 billion in bearer bonds over the Italian/Swiss border...remember that one?....the story died...never resolved. That's what they want with this one....they will just add new twists [99.5%] wrong leads to bury the few real ones and then wait until everyone moves on to a new hideous mystery our would be overlords create. Sadly. NSA and CIA seem equally anxious not to see this one 'solved' publicly. I'd love to hear an honest policeman in London speak to the lack of cooperation their getting!!! I'll bet it is like the 'cooperation' one gets from the opposing team in rugby! Police find body in bag at MI6 man's London flat - Peter Presland - 12-10-2010 Sherlock Holmes and the Alderney Street Mystery Wikispooks Gareth Williams page - (after exchanging emails with Trowbridge Ford) - All speculation naturally. And now he postulates a connection between the 'accidental' death of Gudrun Loftus on 5 October 2010. Interesting info on Sir Michael Scholar, President of Loftus's St John's College and Head of the UK Statistical Authority. There are very serious shenanigans surrounding the Carroll Trust. The City, HMG et al are turning cartwheels trying to keep the lid on a vast SOCA investigation under John Yates (He of the Labour Party Funding investigation that was squashed and other esoteric matters). Deserves a thread of its own here I think. Police find body in bag at MI6 man's London flat - Paul Rigby - 12-10-2010 Peter Presland Wrote:Trowbridge Ford...now he postulates a connection between the 'accidental' death of Gudrun Loftus on 5 October 2010. What a curious Cherwell report - information-lite in a manner worthy of the BBC. But, judging from the lone reader's comment, clearly a case for Mark Taverner's Health & Safety detec from High Table, Lower Orders. Police find body in bag at MI6 man's London flat - Jan Klimkowski - 12-10-2010 Sherlock was fun. However, I think the contributors in this thread are a couple of train rides and costume changes ahead of both the detective and the good doctor. Meanwhile, the Carroll Trust information is most intriguing. Earlier in this thread I noted the line in the Daily Telegraph about Gareth Williams that: "The 31-year-old was seconded from GCHQ to work on top-secret systems to defend British banks and transport infrastructure from cyber attack and to eavesdrop on terrorist communications." I don't consider it much of a leap to suppose that Williams may have learnt, and even been given access to, instances of money laundering - either by criminal structures or for British/American national security purposes. Here, in the Murdoch-owned Sun's version, is a more detailed account of the territory that Carroll and Coutts were involved in. It's self-interested, claiming the paper's own proprietors were "targeted", but still a glimpse of sorts behind the veil: Quote:The Sun | http://www.ipernity.com/blog/offshoretaxevasion/209787 Now we're talking. Money laundering by intelligence-linked banks. Links to senior, and quite possibly compromised, coppers. Links to senior, and almost certainly compromised, politicians. If supersmart young cyberspook Gareth Williams tapped into this tangled web, was confronted by evidence of immoral and nefarious actions sanctioned by top politicians and/or his intelligence agency employers, and had the strength of character to decide to expose such immorality, then MI6 had a big problem. Despatching PC Plod from Scotland Yard to "discover" an MI6 corpse decomposing in a North Face bag in a New Rodina bath in an MI6 safe house is pretty embarrassing for SIS. It suggests panic, and loss of control of events. However, exposure of immoral and illegal operations conducted through secret financial channels at the heart of the British banking establishment, perhaps in direct collusion with overtly criminal organisations, would be much more embarrassing. Maybe terminally so for certain prominent figures.... :listen: Police find body in bag at MI6 man's London flat - Peter Lemkin - 14-10-2010 [I have no idea who did this poor translation from some language other than English].... What Happened To 18K In Spy's ... Forensic accountants called in to inspect Gareth Williams's bank account Detectives subject staff at Thames boating club Police increasingly undone at miss of assistance from MI6 Complicated: The review in to the genocide of Gareth Williams has thrown up yet some-more questions The review in to the genocide of British spy Gareth Williams took an additional obscure spin final night with the explain which £18,000 left from one of his bank accounts two months ago – and cannot be rught divided traced. According to a source tighten to the investigation, debate accountants have been called in by detectives to try to settle where the money, assumingly changed by ‘complex means’, finished up. The Mail on Sunday has been told which the sum was changed from Mr Williams’s Barclays online deposition account. It is accepted which his income was paid in to a Cheltenham & Gloucester account. Last night there was no eccentric confirmation of the explain which, if correct, will fundamentally fuel conjecture which the 31-year-old naught and codes dilettante may have been blackmailed. It has been reported which he may have been offered report and was seeking to censor the money, presumably offshore. Scotland Yard declined to criticism final night on presumably allegation. The source pronounced which troops admit it is similarly probable which there is an trusting reason for the money’s disappearance. Mr Williams reportedly led a spare lifestyle – a passion for cycling assumingly winning his hold up outward work – and it simply may be which he was an capable saver. Other reports have claimed which 3 sums of £2,000 were paid in to Mr Williams’s bank criticism on consecutive days and afterwards cold on uninterrupted days in the weeks prior to his death. However, sources indicate which it is approaching that these deposits were the £2,000 tax-free monthly stipend the spy perceived whilst he was in London on secondment to MI6 from GCHQ, the Government listening post in Cheltenham. The Mail on Sunday has additionally been told, meanwhile, which two bundles of money – £500 in any – were found in the London prosaic where Mr Williams was found passed final week. One gold was in an envelope, the alternative was pronounced to have been firm with an effervescent band. There is zero to indicate a sinister reason for their presence, but sources say they may be poignant since they were left behind. Troops would would not criticism on this explain final night. Investigators think Mr Williams may have well well well well known his torpedo as there was no pointer of forced entrance at his top-floor prosaic in Pimlico, where troops debate officers in white protecting suits were operative yesterday. At 4pm they took divided two bags of evidence. 'He additionally pronounced which the Government met his rent, that’s how he could equates to to live in Pimlico. He was a loner.’ In an additional appealing development, The Mail on Sunday has been told which troops have been creation inquiries about an additional GCHQ workman who used to live in the same flat. They are pronounced to be examining CCTV footage taken from a boating bar this man belonged to on the Thames, nearby MI6 headquarters. Detectives visited the Westminster Boating Base, which helps young kids sense sailing and kayaking, two days after Mr Williams’ physique was found – and interviewed its physical education instructor Kevin Burk for some-more than an hour. They additionally looked at video of sailing trips which the man went on. It is believed which the detectives may have taken a little of the recordings with them for offer analysis. Detectives afterwards called Mr Burk the following day, interviewing him for an additional hour by telephone. They gave him despotic orders not to speak to the Press or the public. It is accepted he was asked minute questions about the former co-worker of Mr Williams, who The Mail on Sunday has concluded not to name. The man is suspicion to have changed out of the prosaic six months ago. Neighbour Stephen Barnes, who initial met the man two years ago, said: ‘This guy told me he worked for the polite service, in the record side. He additionally pronounced which the Government met his rent, that’s how he could equates to to live in Pimlico. He was a loner.’ Mr Barnes, who runs a healing reserve association from his home, was additionally interviewed and detectives asked him to supply all the report he had on the man. The review in to Mr Williams’s genocide has been raid from the opening by a array of difficulties, together with claims of a frustrating miss of assistance from MI6, and unexplained avenues of inquiry. But the biggest complaint faced so far has been the disaster to find how Mr Williams died. ‘We can’t even say for certain which he was murdered,’ pronounced a Scotland Yard spokesman. The formula of a post mortem are not approaching for at slightest an additional week. And whilst he was final seen on Aug 15 in London – and was found in his prosaic 8 days after – it is not well well well well known only when he died. ‘This has had the outcome of elongating the inquiry,’ pronounced a troops source. ‘For one thing it equates to which there is many some-more CCTV to go through. Everything is receiving a lot of time.’ Visited by investigators: The Westminster Boating Base on the Thames has been pinpointed as a key source of evidence While Scotland Yard has been demure to criticism on aspects of the crime scene, it strongly refuted suggestions which ‘bondage apparatus and gay paraphernalia’ were found in the flat. ‘Those reports are garbage,’ pronounced a spokesman, who additionally discharged suggestions which gay hit magazines were found. But he declined to criticism on assorted claims about Mr Williams’s in isolation life, together with suggestions which he was gay and a cross-dresser. Last night his family were pronounced to be ‘furious’ which officers questioning his murdering had authorised fake claims of a furious homosexual lifestyle to accumulate momentum, with his relatives Ian and Ellen feeling ‘let down’ by the disaster to thwart the conjecture sooner. Mr Williams’s uncle, William Hughes, said: ‘Gareth’s name and repute were being broken by these hideous and utterly of doubtful authenticity accounts of his in isolation life.’ After Scotland Yard discharged the allegations, Mr Hughes said: ‘Of march we are relieved – hugely relieved – which these statements have eventually been put out by the police, but what took them so long? ‘The troops have well well well well known since his physique was initial found which there was nothing of this element at the scene. They knew how unpleasant it was for the family to review these untrue, salacious accounts . . . they could have hammered on the conjecture on day one, but chose not to. It was harmful for our family to have to review these sum about Gareth. It was not the Gareth we knew. ‘To the many appropriate of our knowledge, Gareth was not gay and he has never had any seductiveness in the things which were pronounced about him. We goal the denials from the troops will now end the speculation.’ GENIUS WHO CRACKED THE TALIBAN'S CODES By JASON LEWIS AND CHRISTOPHER LEAKE Gareth Williams played a key purpose in the world’s many supportive and sly electronic comprehension entertainment complement – heading to new fears about the critical inhabitant confidence implications of his death. Mr Williams was a top-level cryptologist assisting to manage a network called Echelon, which links satellites and super-computers in Britain and the US with those of alternative key allies. Set up to guard the troops and tactful communications of the Soviet Union during the Cold War, Echelon now eavesdrops on apprehension suspects and drug dealers, and searches for alternative domestic and tactful intelligence. It reputedly intercepts 5 billion conversations and alternative forms of communications each day. Scandal: Mr Williams's genocide is approaching to be a vital blow to GCHQ's, efforts to moment Voice Over Internet Protocol Echelon looks for key difference and phrases which competence suggest, for example, which a militant conflict is being planned. Mr Williams’s imagination in his margin is reflected by the actuality which he had been posted to MI6’s key listening hire in Afghanistan, and had been sent to Fort Meade, in Maryland, home of the US Inhabitant Confidence Agency. He is additionally suspicion to have visited the NSA cryptology centres at San Antonio, Texas, and at Denver, Colorado. It is accepted Mr Williams was partial of a group of maths geniuses perplexing to conform the 40-year-old Echelon complement to understanding with new forms of electronic communications. According to sources, one of the big issues Mr Williams was operative on was how the confidence and comprehension agencies can guard internet write calls – well well well well known as Voice Over Internet Protocol (VOIP) – such as Skype, which are being used by terrorists and unfamiliar agents to try to by-pass slight eavesdropping on write and mobile networks. 'His code-breaking work is suspicion tohave helped save the lives of scores of British soldiers underneath dailyattack from insurgents.' It is accepted he was additionally concerned in enlightening the worldly algorithms which establish the key difference and phrases the complement is seeking for as it monitors conversations receiving place around the world. Mr Williams’s genocide is approaching to be a vital blow to GCHQ’s efforts to moment VOIP. Two years ago Britain’s Comprehension and Confidence Committee, which oversees the work of Britain’s spies, revealed: ‘One of the biggest hurdles for GCHQ is to say its prevent capacity in the face of fast elaborating communications technology. ‘This relates in sold to the expansion in internet-based communications and voice over internet telephony.’ The range of his purpose was final night reinforced by the reason which Mr Williams did at slightest two tours to Afghanistan, assisting to mangle coded Taliban messages. He was sent to MI6’s hire in Kabul twice in 2008, according to Ministry of Counterclaim sources. His code-breaking work is suspicion to have helped save the lives of scores of British soldiers underneath every day conflict from insurgents. Mr Williams would have complicated the coded denunciation of Taliban leaders formulation to conflict British and alternative NATO patrols and, in a little cases, find the place of those who sent the messages. Among the prime notice codes used by insurgents to set up their attacks are ‘big wedding’, ‘getting married’ and ‘birthday party’. WHY SHOULD GARETH'S FAMILY HAVE TO HEAR SUCH CRUEL UNTRUTHS? By SIMON TRUMP Assassinated: British spy Jonathan Moyle was murdered in a road house room in Chile in 1990 The mom of a British spy murdered 20 years ago has criticised the ‘heartless and inhuman disinformation’ leaked by MI6 to cover up the law about his clandestine work. Diana Moyle’s son Jonathan, a former RAF commander and counterclaim journalist, was assassinated in a road house room in Chile in 1990. His genocide was finished to demeanour identical to a sex diversion which went wrong. Mrs Moyle spoke out yesterday as the family of Gareth Williams laid open identical fake rumours about him regulating masculine escorts and gripping gay racy material. She said: ‘My heart goes out to the family of Gareth Williams. Why should they have to listen to such vicious untruths being widespread about his death? Perhaps a little would explain it was in the inhabitant interest. ‘But we went by only the same thing when Jonathan was killed two decades ago. The suffering which those lies caused me afterwards and now is unbearable. ‘My son was a bright, clear and decent associate who was unapproachable to offer his nation and his repute was sullied by a array of comments finished by a Government central at a reception. ‘He wrote to us apologising for his claims which he pronounced were “overheard” and afterwards printed by reporters but I know which such things are not incidentally leaked. It is finished deliberately.’ Jonathan Moyle’s physique was found unresolved inside a habit with a padded knot around his neck in a road house in the Chilean collateral Santiago. He had been questioning a association owned by arms play Carlos Cardoen which was modifiying helicopters, presumably to lift chief weapons, to sell to Iraqi tyrant Saddam Hussein. A Unfamiliar Office official, believed to be an MI6 source, purported at an central accepting which Moyle had died incidentally whilst intent in an auto-erotic act. But Mrs Moyle’s late father Anthony, a late teacher, who died 3 years ago elderly 78, refused to accept his son had killed himself in this manner. Prior to his own death, Mr Moyle detected his son was substantially drugged, suffocated, injected with a fatal piece – a syringe was found at the stage – and afterwards strung up in the closet. The same perspective was common by Richard van Oppen, the coroner for East Devon, where the Moyles lived at the time, who returned a outcome of wrong murdering at his inquisition hold in 1998. It was usually suggested after Anthony Moyle’s genocide which Jonathan had been recruited by MI6 whilst a tyro at Aberystwyth University. Mrs Moyle said: ‘I spoke to Jonathan ten mins prior to he substantially died. He was in great intoxicating beverage even yet he had only got behind to find his room had been ransacked and there were writings sparse everywhere.’ Author Wensley Clarkson, who wrote a best-selling book about the Moyle case, pronounced his genocide seemed to have been a ‘message’ from his enemies and ‘it positively looks which way with the Williams box as well’. He added: ‘The Williams family – only identical to the Moyles – merit to be since a correct reason of why and how Gareth died.’ Police find body in bag at MI6 man's London flat - David Guyatt - 15-10-2010 Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Quote:The Sun | Jan, the stye and syntax and general presentation of the above blog very much reminds me of certain people I came across during my black market/gold market investigations. I am, in fact, very much reminded of the language style used by one Leo Wanta (a flavour of which can be read HERE). As I have noted elsewhere in this forum, Wanta, who I was in close contact with for many months, is/was an FBI/Treasury Department "confidential informant". I have copies of FBI and Treasury Dept., C.I. cash receipts bearing the names of two well known Wanta aliases. These were supplied to me by Wanta by mistake, along with a large volume of other Wanta legal documents and other paperwork. Meanwhile, concerning the extensive article of Trowbridge H Ford, I am inclined very much to agree with your caution about his precise knowledge and motives. I noted in his reports a variety of allegations such as this one: Quote:For good measure, NSA's Keyhole laser satellites were used the following August to trigger an earthquake in the qanat system of Izmit, Turkey to punish its Nationalist leadership for betraying NATO secrets to Yugoslav President Milosevic. The feeling garnered from such was that Trowland smoked an exceptionally large Hookah and was well practiced at sending billowing clouds of rank smoke directly up the rear orifices of his readers. Police find body in bag at MI6 man's London flat - Jan Klimkowski - 15-10-2010 David - thanks for your typically astute observations. Usually, Confidential Informants either have genuine insider information which they are forced to supply to their handlers through blackmail or leverage, or their job is to infiltrate, float balloons, and see who bites. Hmmmm... |