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The Magic Tonsillectomy or Armstrong's Voodoo Science? - Dawn Meredith - 29-03-2014
Bob Prudhomme Wrote:Inbreeding, indeed.
It is sad to see what a man will resort to when he runs out of arguments. I see no reason to continue this discussion.
Prepare to be ignored by the rest of the forum, as well, Mr. Parker.
PLEASE!!!! Parker has been asked several times now if he has actually READ the book.
His continual refusal to respond to this question IS a response.
Ignore, don't feed this. I am so damn sick of the infighting in the critical community.
And name calling. Put an end to this NOW. Stop responding to him. Continue to feed him and you all get what you deserve.
For those of us like myself with an extremely busy day job- attorney- who also works many weekends, I just do not have the time to read all this crap.
But we have to monitor it. This is our home and comments like "inbreeding" violate our forum rules.
Dawn
The Magic Tonsillectomy or Armstrong's Voodoo Science? - Bob Prudhomme - 29-03-2014
Dawn Meredith Wrote:Bob Prudhomme Wrote:Inbreeding, indeed.
It is sad to see what a man will resort to when he runs out of arguments. I see no reason to continue this discussion.
Prepare to be ignored by the rest of the forum, as well, Mr. Parker.
PLEASE!!!! Parker has been asked several times now if he has actually READ the book.
His continual refusal to respond to this question IS a response.
Ignore, don't feed this. I am so damn sick of the infighting in the critical community.
And name calling. Put an end to this NOW. Stop responding to him. Continue to feed him and you all get what you deserve.
For those of us like myself with an extremely busy day job- attorney- who also works many weekends, I just do not have the time to read all this crap.
But we have to monitor it. This is our home and comments like "inbreeding" violate our forum rules.
Dawn
What are you trying to say here, Dawn? Parker referred to me as inbred and then called me Billy-Bob. By responding with "Inbreeding, indeed." I was showing my disgust with his use of this ad hominem attack.
The Magic Tonsillectomy or Armstrong's Voodoo Science? - Dawn Meredith - 29-03-2014
Bob Prudhomme Wrote:That IS what I was saying Bob. His comment to you as inbred. Not your response. Ad homs are not permitted. I thought I was clear.Dawn Meredith Wrote:Bob Prudhomme Wrote:Inbreeding, indeed.
It is sad to see what a man will resort to when he runs out of arguments. I see no reason to continue this discussion.
Prepare to be ignored by the rest of the forum, as well, Mr. Parker.
PLEASE!!!! Parker has been asked several times now if he has actually READ the book.
His continual refusal to respond to this question IS a response.
Ignore, don't feed this. I am so damn sick of the infighting in the critical community.
And name calling. Put an end to this NOW. Stop responding to him. Continue to feed him and you all get what you deserve.
For those of us like myself with an extremely busy day job- attorney- who also works many weekends, I just do not have the time to read all this crap.
But we have to monitor it. This is our home and comments like "inbreeding" violate our forum rules.
Dawn
What are you trying to say here, Dawn? Parker referred to me as inbred and then called me Billy-Bob. By responding with "Inbreeding, indeed." I was showing my disgust with his use of this ad hominem attack.
Dawn
The Magic Tonsillectomy or Armstrong's Voodoo Science? - Bob Prudhomme - 29-03-2014
Dawn Meredith Wrote:Bob Prudhomme Wrote:That IS what I was saying Bob. His comment to you as inbred. Not your response. Ad homs are not permitted. I thought I was clear.Dawn Meredith Wrote:Bob Prudhomme Wrote:Inbreeding, indeed.
It is sad to see what a man will resort to when he runs out of arguments. I see no reason to continue this discussion.
Prepare to be ignored by the rest of the forum, as well, Mr. Parker.
PLEASE!!!! Parker has been asked several times now if he has actually READ the book.
His continual refusal to respond to this question IS a response.
Ignore, don't feed this. I am so damn sick of the infighting in the critical community.
And name calling. Put an end to this NOW. Stop responding to him. Continue to feed him and you all get what you deserve.
For those of us like myself with an extremely busy day job- attorney- who also works many weekends, I just do not have the time to read all this crap.
But we have to monitor it. This is our home and comments like "inbreeding" violate our forum rules.
Dawn
What are you trying to say here, Dawn? Parker referred to me as inbred and then called me Billy-Bob. By responding with "Inbreeding, indeed." I was showing my disgust with his use of this ad hominem attack.
Dawn
Okay, it was a little unclear. I thought you were referring to my comment.
I think I will refrain from responding further to Mr. Parker's threads, as it seems to be an unproductive endeavour and tends to bring out the worst in me.
The Magic Tonsillectomy or Armstrong's Voodoo Science? - Greg R Parker - 30-03-2014
Dawn Meredith Wrote:Bob Prudhomme Wrote:Inbreeding, indeed.
It is sad to see what a man will resort to when he runs out of arguments. I see no reason to continue this discussion.
Prepare to be ignored by the rest of the forum, as well, Mr. Parker.
PLEASE!!!! Parker has been asked several times now if he has actually READ the book.
His continual refusal to respond to this question IS a response.
Ignore, don't feed this. I am so damn sick of the infighting in the critical community.
And name calling. Put an end to this NOW. Stop responding to him. Continue to feed him and you all get what you deserve.
For those of us like myself with an extremely busy day job- attorney- who also works many weekends, I just do not have the time to read all this crap.
But we have to monitor it. This is our home and comments like "inbreeding" violate our forum rules.
Dawn
Dawn, you have asked that many times in the past. You are well aware that I have not read it - just as you have not read it in its entirety.
I may have violated forum rules, but you are displaying hypocrisy in not acknowledging I was replying in kind to the slurs being hurled my way. "Idiot", "fool", "bully" are among the epithets used against me here, for what? For trying to give David the "detailed discussion" on the H & L evidence he claims to want. Evidently, he only wants it discussed through the vision of one eye. That is no way to arrive at the facts of any matter.
The Magic Tonsillectomy or Armstrong's Voodoo Science? - Anthony Thorne - 30-03-2014
An easy solution from here on out. Both sides stop the insults. If either side feels aggrieved and angry, take a few hours or a day off, then come back. Just a suggestion.
The Magic Tonsillectomy or Armstrong's Voodoo Science? - David Guyatt - 30-03-2014
Anthony Thorne Wrote:An easy solution from here on out. Both sides stop the insults. If either side feels aggrieved and angry, take a few hours or a day off, then come back. Just a suggestion.
In other words straight forward common sense, Anthony. :
:In addition to taking a deep breath - an excellent idea imho - any member may also alert the mods to infringements or problems by clicking the alert triangle at the bottom left hand side of each post, or PM a mod or founder.
The Magic Tonsillectomy or Armstrong's Voodoo Science? - Dawn Meredith - 30-03-2014
Greg R Parker Wrote:Dawn Meredith Wrote:Bob Prudhomme Wrote:Inbreeding, indeed.
It is sad to see what a man will resort to when he runs out of arguments. I see no reason to continue this discussion.
Prepare to be ignored by the rest of the forum, as well, Mr. Parker.
PLEASE!!!! Parker has been asked several times now if he has actually READ the book.
His continual refusal to respond to this question IS a response.
Ignore, don't feed this. I am so damn sick of the infighting in the critical community.
And name calling. Put an end to this NOW. Stop responding to him. Continue to feed him and you all get what you deserve.
For those of us like myself with an extremely busy day job- attorney- who also works many weekends, I just do not have the time to read all this crap.
But we have to monitor it. This is our home and comments like "inbreeding" violate our forum rules.
Dawn
Dawn, you have asked that many times in the past. You are well aware that I have not read it - just as you have not read it in its entirety.
I may have violated forum rules, but you are displaying hypocrisy in not acknowledging I was replying in kind to the slurs being hurled my way. "Idiot", "fool", "bully" are among the epithets used against me here, for what? For trying to give David the "detailed discussion" on the H & L evidence he claims to want. Evidently, he only wants it discussed through the vision of one eye. That is no way to arrive at the facts of any matter.
If you replied I did not see it. And I read over 3/4 of the book when I first got it in 2009. It's a long book and very dense. I bought it at COPA along with several other books that year. I read all the others and most of this but then got crazy busy with work. I have begun re-reading it and taking notes.
Beyond this I am not reading these long detailed posts. Just don't have the time or energy. I was convinced after the first few chapters of Harvey and Lee. And even more convinced on second reading.
To argue with someone over a book not read is truly a waste of everyone's time.
Obey the rules. All of you.
I will not be replying further. But this post required a response. For clarification purposes only.
Dawn
The Magic Tonsillectomy or Armstrong's Voodoo Science? - Greg R Parker - 30-03-2014
Dawn Meredith Wrote:Greg R Parker Wrote:Dawn Meredith Wrote:Bob Prudhomme Wrote:Inbreeding, indeed.
It is sad to see what a man will resort to when he runs out of arguments. I see no reason to continue this discussion.
Prepare to be ignored by the rest of the forum, as well, Mr. Parker.
PLEASE!!!! Parker has been asked several times now if he has actually READ the book.
His continual refusal to respond to this question IS a response.
Ignore, don't feed this. I am so damn sick of the infighting in the critical community.
And name calling. Put an end to this NOW. Stop responding to him. Continue to feed him and you all get what you deserve.
For those of us like myself with an extremely busy day job- attorney- who also works many weekends, I just do not have the time to read all this crap.
But we have to monitor it. This is our home and comments like "inbreeding" violate our forum rules.
Dawn
Dawn, you have asked that many times in the past. You are well aware that I have not read it - just as you have not read it in its entirety.
I may have violated forum rules, but you are displaying hypocrisy in not acknowledging I was replying in kind to the slurs being hurled my way. "Idiot", "fool", "bully" are among the epithets used against me here, for what? For trying to give David the "detailed discussion" on the H & L evidence he claims to want. Evidently, he only wants it discussed through the vision of one eye. That is no way to arrive at the facts of any matter.
If you replied I did not see it. And I read over 3/4 of the book when I first got it in 2009. It's a long book and very dense. I bought it at COPA along with several other books that year. I read all the others and most of this but then got crazy busy with work. I have begun re-reading it and taking notes.
Beyond this I am not reading these long detailed posts. Just don't have the time or energy. I was convinced after the first few chapters of Harvey and Lee. And even more convinced on second reading.
To argue with someone over a book not read is truly a waste of everyone's time.
Obey the rules. All of you.
I will not be replying further. But this post required a response. For clarification purposes only.
Dawn
Dawn,
Contrary to what you say, I am not attacking the book. I am attacking what is plastered all over the web purporting to represent what is in the book. That includes the official H & L website.
You can keep using your excuses to avoid reading what I have - but in the end, it is really just willful blindness. You, as a lawyer should know the value of the adversarial system. Why then, do you insist that only one side of this debate should ever be heard?
The Magic Tonsillectomy or Armstrong's Voodoo Science? - Greg R Parker - 31-03-2014
Bringing this back to the right thread:
Quote:Jim Hargrove quoting from Harvey and Lee: they [tonsils] grow only to no more than 10% of their original size-not largeAgain - Armstrong is talking about modern-day situations where the entire tonsils are removed - but as shown next, even then they may still regrow and require remove. Rare? Yes. But not in the "old days" when only partial removals were done.
enough to require removal.
How Can I Tell if My Tonsils Have Grown Back?
If you were under the impression that you would never have another strep infection after having your tonsils removed, you might panic the first time you get a sore throat. While research shows a significant decrease in the number of infections experienced by people who have their tonsils out, you can still get throat infections after having them removed. Just because you get a throat infection does not mean that your tonsils have grown back.
If your tonsils are growing back, you might see bumps where your tonsils used to be, or they may become infected and swollen. This is generally not a concern unless they start causing problems. If you start having chronic throat infections or symptoms of sleep apnea, you should talk to your doctor about the possibility that your tonsils and/or adenoids have grown back and proceed from there.
Treatment
If you are one of the very few people whose tonsils grow back to a noticeable degree, you can expect your doctor to treat the regrowth in much the same way he or she treated you before your tonsillectomy. If you have a strep infection, you will be given antibiotics. Enlarged tonsils can sometimes be treated using steroids (more research on using steroids to shrink tonsils is needed but preliminary studies have been promising), and as a last resort, surgery. Your doctor probably won't recommend another tonsillectomy unless your tonsils have grown back because they are malignant (you have tonsil cancer), you are having frequent infections, your enlarged tonsils are causing you difficulty in swallowing or breathing, or your sleep apnea has returned.
http://ent.about.com/od/entdisorderssu/f/Can-Your-Tonsils-Grow-Back-After-A-Tonsillectomy.htmSo there are a number of reasons why another tonsillectomy may be called for.