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Preparations & Ideas for the 50th - Charles Drago - 07-01-2013
Mark Prior Wrote:Let's try a little harder on staying focused. This thread is about preparing for the 50th, now less than 11 months away. We cannot waste time commenting or arguing about things which amount to nothing more than distractions.
To get this thread back on track, I will repost the last post which actually had some constructive merit as it relates to this​ thread:
Hello Dawn,
I don't know that I will be able to make it to the event but please let me, and anyone else who wishes to contribute, know where donations can be sent for any possible legal expenses incurred by your efforts.
Thank you much for everything you are doing.
Sincerely
Mark Prior
"Stay focused"???
Why you little pissant ... How DARE you!
Preparations & Ideas for the 50th - Greg Burnham - 07-01-2013
Well, I almost said, "You little fucking twerp" -- but thought better of it. Now, I'm glad I did. Pissant says it much better.
Preparations & Ideas for the 50th - Phil Dragoo - 07-01-2013
I was speaking to a college student tonight regarding the occasion of the 50th anniversary of the assassination of JFK, coming as it does one hundred years after the establishment of the Federal Reserve.
That the Vietnam War would not have been fought, that the demonization after the Bay of Pigs was part of the final descent, that the alleged lone nut was a patsy, the photos with weapons likely faked.
All that and more tacitly understood, merely awaiting the statement.
The shrieking fairies and carping harpies of Mockingbird Media and Sunstein Productions demand consumers stay focused on how hard the president is working, cutting short his Hawaiian vacation, as democracy comes to the Middle East and the senseless act of a lone gunman is replicated at ever more frequent intervals in theaters, and schools, and SWAT standoffs.
The truth is seen by those with no means, motive or opportunity to go to Dallas at this or any other time.
Preparations & Ideas for the 50th - Jim Hackett II - 07-01-2013
" The truth is seen by those with no means, motive or opportunity to go to Dallas at this or any other time."
I hope to be able to attend the Nov. gathering of Eagles. (that is 'the independent thinkers' as are gathered here at 'DPF', OK most all of us here). The unofficial attendees of Dealy Plaza 2013.
I have seen enough of street disobedience. I have no desire to be arrested. I doubt the jerks would allow the medications I now require, or the physicians say I need them. Cardiac and BP issues. Peaceful protest has a place in history as Jim Douglass wrote.
Reason two is the monetary cost of dealing with the legal games involved when arrested even for what should be interpreted as an exercise of OUR rights to peacefully assemble and seek redress of grievance.
In the age of the "abridged Bill of Rights", the powerful enforce civil rights by dollar democracy, in effect issuing the golden tickets of attendance only to the selected.
In 1975 my attitude would have been much more confrontational.
Today, I would like to get to Texas for a couple of different reasons besides the Nov. events, I'd like to speak to Mr. Bob Groden. I'd like to enjoy some good music with Mr. Scot Myers too.
I would like to wish the Bill of Rights was in reality part of WeThePeople's Organic Law again. But I know the reality of tyranny.
I would further say this, any person having a passing interest in the events of November 1963 in Dallas, should visit Dealy Plaza once. If for no other reason than to see the ambush for what it is.
Military L-shaped ambush tactic perfectly laid out in field manuals of the DOD.
My only visit to DP was in the off season to avoid the circus and profit makers from Murder, Mr Groden NOT included in that description.
I am saving money to reserve a place at COPA's conference. Time will tell if I can.
I hope I am not saving money for bailment too.
Jim
P.S.
Or I'll buy the Video discs from COPA if nothing else
but know I will support for those that do get to Dallas 2013 - the uninvited guests I mean, like us - even if I don't get there.
Preparations & Ideas for the 50th - Dawn Meredith - 07-01-2013
Greg Burnham Wrote:Well, I almost said, "You little fucking twerp" -- but thought better of it. Now, I'm glad I did. Pissant says it much better.
I disagree, we are not supposed to be name calling here. A point can be made without resort to calling someone a name.
Dawn
Preparations & Ideas for the 50th - Dawn Meredith - 07-01-2013
Jim, Scott Meyers was here along with Terry Mauro for several days in 2005 and lots of fine music was played. He is a fine jazz keyboard player.
Phill : Spot on as usual.
John Judge will be meeting with the Dallas mayor this month and may be able to convince him to allow dissenters of the official lie to
"tresspass" in Dallas on the 5th anniversary. I too do not wish to be arrested.
Dawn
Preparations & Ideas for the 50th - Albert Doyle - 07-01-2013
Well, some cite Gandhi in their posts. Gandhi was a man who didn't hesitate to take action. While not wanting to fan flames some are trying to induce I have to say I sometimes think the loud protests of some are really caused by their fear of going out there in the street and taking action. They prefer their ivory towers. This is not Symbionese nonsense it is the people and their voice being heard at the right time. While I totally endorse the Deep Political perspective I just think saying "The true Sponsors killed Kennedy" into the bullhorn might not grab that well even if it is, admittedly, more accurate. Let's not make enemies where there are none - but more importantly let's not deny them either.
Preparations & Ideas for the 50th - Greg Burnham - 07-01-2013
Let's see if I can make an impassioned post without "resorting to name calling" for those who are offended by such things. Although I agree that ad hominem is not a valid form of argument, still it can be a valid form of expression when properly provoked. Indeed, there are those who would appear as saints in their tone and manners as they ever so politely insult those whom they seek to control. But, that must be allowed, as there is no policy prohibiting this behavior? I think not. Should it be officially moderated? I think not. Should it be allowed to stand? Absolutely not! The individual at whom the insult was leveled must dispatch it without delay and with considerable vigor. You see, there was a thinly disguised ad hominem contained within the politely phrased admonishment encouraging us to "stay focused" as though we were not focused. Otherwise, who would spend this amount of time and effort on a subject of such importance? Only the disingenuous. I can assure you that that is not the case with me, and speaking (without permission) for Charles, it is not the case with him either.
I was one of the founders of the first "no flame zone" JFK forum, so I am quite supportive of policies designed to prevent the melt down that unbridled ad hominem can and will spawn. But, even Rich allowed for emotional outbursts as long as they were brief and to the point particularly by those who had well established bona fides. Jack White comes to mind. I never, ever heard or read a curse word from Jack White in over 15 years. Not even one--no matter the circumstances. I think it was both the fact that he was a gentleman, but also, I think he found it somewhat "sinful" for lack of a better word. However, even Jack would find a way to express himself and return attack when warranted. I remember him saying to another member of the forum: You are full of bovine excrement! -- Even Jack had limits.
I shall strive to live up to the high standards established by this forum in the future.
Preparations & Ideas for the 50th - Phil Dragoo - 07-01-2013
The seventy percent cited above is a lowball for American skepticism; the world, living with coups without the dulling of a Dulles touting his Mockingbird monograph, sees with virtual unanimity that which Fidel Castro identified November 23, 1963:
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Preparations & Ideas for the 50th - Nathaniel Heidenheimer - 12-01-2013
THIS IS A SURFBOARD: a story that has big name recognition, might not be new to us ,but is new to the young and sytematicaly, top-down jaded, and utterly MSM, can be used as a surfboard to plant a recommendation that would otherwise NOT GET A SECOND GLANCE FROM NEW, MSM AUDIENCE. Do YOU just want to dismiss them as dummies, like the internet wants you to? Or do you recognize that politics is not what happens inside one skull but a social act B E T W E E N skulls? If the former you have just answered the question: "Why do so few people seem to not recognize the importance of the political assassinations for right now?" The best silo their convictions instead of BROADcast them, full spectrum.
Please use this surfboard by putting it on an MSM site where new people will be able to learn about the Douglass book. Otherwise all they will ever know about in their lives is the existence of the O'Reilly book. Surfaces have been sanded much better than when you were young. It's up to YOU to provide cognitive dissonance for the smooth surfaced youth that this stage of Capitalism has produced. Please SHARE what is bellow the line or adjust it and share as you see fit. Remember the surfboard is the article, the surfer is the book. Don't spread pistols, use the pistols to spread artillery (METAPHOR FOLKS , A METAPHOR FOR THE COMMUNICATIONS BATTLE...)
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