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Polish President and Army Chief of Staff dead - Magda Hassan - 22-05-2010
I want to know whose bright idea it was to put all these important people on the one plane?
Polish President and Army Chief of Staff dead - Dawn Meredith - 22-05-2010
Magda Hassan Wrote:I want to know whose bright idea it was to put all these important people on the one plane?
I think we are getting a much better picture:
Dawn
http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/russian-cover-up-polish-crash-videographer-assassinated_04212010
"Today we learned that the videographer who shot and uploaded the film to Youtube, a Mr. Adrij Mendiere, was stabbed and taken to a hospital in Kiev on April 15th. Upon his arrival to the hospital he was still alive and placed on life support. The following day, however, it is reported that three individuals entered his room, removed the life support and Mr. Mendiere died."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1278175/Footage-Polish-air-crash-emerges-claiming-Russian-speaking-men-shooting-survivors.html
http://gazbom.blogspot.com/2010/04/guy-who-filmed-shots-fired-at-polish.html
http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/2010/04/16/smolensk-runway-lighting-system-tampered-with-says-russian-journalist/
Polish President and Army Chief of Staff dead - Jan Klimkowski - 23-05-2010
The enhanced video footage and alleged murder of a journalist involved in circulating it, increases already strong suspicions that this was Katyn Mark 2.
An officially sanctioned slaughter for crude geopolitical purposes.
Polish President and Army Chief of Staff dead - Peter Presland - 23-05-2010
Jan Klimkowski Wrote:The enhanced video footage and alleged murder of a journalist involved in circulating it, increases already strong suspicions that this was Katyn Mark 2.It's an odd one though don't you think?
An officially sanctioned slaughter for crude geopolitical purposes.
The biggest beneficiaries were undoubtedly the Western Establishment - That's the combined EU and US/UK and an interpretation bolstered by the Brzezinski intervention.
On the face of it, the biggest risks and potential losers were/are Russia.
I certainly don't rule out a Combined Russia/West move being played out here but otherwise - qui bono?
Polish President and Army Chief of Staff dead - Jan Klimkowski - 23-05-2010
Peter Presland Wrote:Jan Klimkowski Wrote:The enhanced video footage and alleged murder of a journalist involved in circulating it, increases already strong suspicions that this was Katyn Mark 2.It's an odd one though don't you think?
An officially sanctioned slaughter for crude geopolitical purposes.
The biggest beneficiaries were undoubtedly the Western Establishment - That's the combined EU and US/UK and an interpretation bolstered by the Brzezinski intervention.
On the face of it, the biggest risks and potential losers were/are to Russia.
I certainly don't rule out a Combined Russia/West move being played out here but otherwise - qui bono?
The original Katyn was agreed as part of the Nazi-Soviet Pact.
Ostensibly a Faustian Pact. However, like Mr Drago, I suspect not quite such an impossible marriage.
Britain and America then covered up the clear fact that Katyn was a Soviet massacre for geopolitical reasons. Soviet responsibility was only finally acknowledged by Gorbachev under Glasnost in 1990.
For an MSM source, see here:
http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/story.asp?storycode=401810
Katyn was the massacre of the Polish intelligentsia - military and civilian - to cut off the Polish "head", and ensure that a client Polish state with puppet leaders could be established. Whether this was run as a slave colony, by the Nazis, or as a quisling state, by the Soviets, was largely irrelevant. The core message was that a strong, independent, Poland was not to be permitted.
Poland's geographical position has always made it an "open sore" to both German and Russian regional ambitions. What Brzezinski is revealing is that sometimes a very high level agreement can be made between ruling elites - eg Germany, Russia, and, loosely, transnational financial and military interests.
The freshly slaughtered Kaczynski may have been "off message" in many ways: eg over a Russian-German gas pipeline bypassing Poland; over Polish devaluation of the Zloty; over whatever geopolitical deal is being agreed concerning American/NATO missiles on Polish soil as against Russian support for neocon military adventures.
What is abundantly clear is that the Sponsors who create dead Kennedys in highly symbolic crossfires are certainly prepared to offer up a dead Kaczynski in the most resonant location possible.
The message to political leaders is clear: this will be your fate if you take independent action which conflicts with elite interests.
Polish President and Army Chief of Staff dead - Helen Reyes - 24-05-2010
Peter Presland Wrote:On the face of it, the biggest risks and potential losers were/are Russia.
I certainly don't rule out a Combined Russia/West move being played out here but otherwise - qui bono?
It has to be big, really big, on the scale of Molotov-Ribbentrop, but even grander scale.
Poland was a "sore" for Hitler because of Danzig corridor and to Stalin because of the Polish anti-Bolshevik offensive in Ukraine, Belarus and Lithuania. Poland's current "sore" status would involve the things Jan mentioned, but they don't seem to add up to enough in my mind: the Baltic Sea Gazprom pipeline cut the Baltics and Poland out of the supply chain but no one else much cared and Poland couldn't make too much of a stink about it because no one else cared. There might be intrigues involving the (Ras)Putin-Medvedev-Soetoro nuclear deal of which we don't have the details, involving Poland.
Could someone post the direct Youtube links for the "second" film?
Polish President and Army Chief of Staff dead - Jan Klimkowski - 24-05-2010
For the record the phrase "Molotov-Ribbentrop" is itself an MSM and official history coverup.
This was not some minor deal between a couple of generals named Molotov and Ribbentrop.
This was a geopolitical contract of massive importance, whose secret protocols carved up eastern Europe and created the philosophical framework for ethnic cleansing and the massacre of entire "classes", for instance the "intelligentsia", of a particular ethnic group.
Namely Poles.
This disgraceful agreement should be called by its meaningful name: the Nazi-Soviet Pact.
Polish President and Army Chief of Staff dead - Helen Reyes - 24-05-2010
Jan Klimkowski Wrote:For the record the phrase "Molotov-Ribbentrop" is itself an MSM and official history coverup.
This was not some minor deal between a couple of generals named Molotov and Ribbentrop.
This was a geopolitical contract of massive importance, whose secret protocols carved up eastern Europe and created the philosophical framework for ethnic cleansing and the massacre of entire "classes", for instance the "intelligentsia", of a particular ethnic group.
Namely Poles.
This disgraceful agreement should be called by its meaningful name: the Nazi-Soviet Pact.
It was called that, or something like that, in Rise and Fall. Shirer was the MSM of his day, of course. How they argued the Treaty of Non-Aggression between Germany and the Soviet Union didn't violate the Anti-Comintern Pact between Italy, Germany and Japan must've been interesting. I guess the post-war consideration in renaming it the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was to make individuals responsible, more than to diminish the enormity of the crimes (except in Uncle Joe's case, of course). Champagne salesman playboy Foreign Minister Ribbentrop was hung at Nuremberg, I guess, while Molotov was banished to Mongolia for a time.
Polish President and Army Chief of Staff dead - Phil Dragoo - 24-05-2010
http://www2.nupi.no/cgi-win//Russland/krono.exe?5180
Aleksander Lebed killed in a helicopter crash
Date: 28.04.2002
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Krasnoyarsk Krai Governor and former Russian presidential candidate Aleksandr Lebed died in a helicopter accident in the morning of 28 April, Russian agencies reported. The helicopter crashed into a power line, killing eight of the 20 passengers on board. At the time, Lebed, 52, was visiting Khakasia, where his younger brother Aleksei is governor. Aleksei Volin, deputy head of the presidential administration, told Ekho Moskvy on 28 April that a detailed investigation of the accident will be conducted by a special commission ordered by President Putin. According to Volin, the investigation will be conducted at the highest level and it is "too early to speak about the reason for the accident." However, according to NTV and Interfax, the reason for the crash was poor visibility due to bad weather. Aleksei Lebed also told Ekho Moskvy that there was heavy fog. The date for gubernatorial elections in Krasnoyarsk Krai will be set by the krai's legislature within 14 days, regions.ru reported on 29 April. Central Election Commission head Aleksandr Veshnyakov said the date will be set no later than within six months and no earlier than 65 days from the moment the head of the krai left his post. Veshnyakov predicted that the election will be "difficult," and that "one can already predict a fierce battle among the candidates for votes." According to regions.ru on 28 April, local political analysts believed that Lebed had little chance of being re-elected in elections that were expected to take place in May 2003. And in the new race, the interests of Russian Aluminum and Norilsk Nickel will play a major role. Yabloko Deputy Aleksei Arbatov said Lebed's death will destabilize Krasnoyarsk and "will lead to the full criminalization of the situation in the region," ntvru.com reported. According to Arbatov, the run-up to the election of the next governor will be particularly tense as "passions will boil over" and huge sums of money will be present.
First Deputy Governor Nikolai Ashlapov has become acting governor, regions.ru reported on 28 April. Ashlapov, according to the website, is a former representative of Russian Aluminum in Krasnoyarsk, and was only appointed first deputy governor in early February of this year.
Phil's footnote: Inspector Putin is on the case and a stunning solution is expected at every hour. Preliminary reports indicate nothing more sophisticated than poor visibility, bad weather, fog. And now back to the latest Russian arms sensation, the Club-K.
Polish President and Army Chief of Staff dead - Jan Klimkowski - 28-05-2010
The IMF and World Bank are seeking to put a known collaborator in charge of the Polish economy.
The dials on Poland's very own IMF/World Bank Economic Electroshock machine will be turned up to 11 by a Chicago Boy.
Quote:WASHINGTON (MNI) - Former Poland prime minister Marek Belka will leave his current post at the International Monetary Fund to take over the reins of the nation's central bank, the IMF confirmed Thursday.
"We can confirm that Marek Belka, director of the IMF's European Department, has been nominated by Poland's acting President for the position of Governor of the Central Bank of Poland, and that Mr. Belka has accepted the nomination," an IMF spokeswoman said in a statement.
"Consistent with IMF procedures, Mr. Belka will relinquish his responsibilities as Director of the European Department immediately."
Acting President Bronislaw Komorowski nominated Belka. Komorowski is the parliament speaker who stepped in as acting president after the April 10 plane crash in Russia that killed President Lech Kaczynski and 95 others, including central bank governor Slawomir Skrzypek.
The nomination requires ratification by the lower house of parliament, which will vote on it after it convenes on June 9, the parliament press office said, according to press reports.
Belka served as Poland's prime minister from 2004 to 2005, as deputy prime minister in 1997, and as finance minister from 2001 to 2002. Prior to that, Belka served as chief economic adviser to the president from 1996-97 and 1998-2001.
http://imarketnews.com/node/14116
For a top level intro on Belka's bought and paid for status, see wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marek_Belka