Phil Dragoo Wrote:Stan observes

The framework of Germany was absorbed in the American corporate structure after the war, and the battle is on to control being.

And in fact I heard Jerome Corsi say something very close to this last night with George Noory on Coast to Coast AM

Like David I read Grey Wolf and am following up Simon Dunstan and Gerrard Williams' route from the bunker doppleganger gambit through tunnels and trimotors and U-boat to Patagonia with Peter Levenda whose Ratline leads to Indonesia

David suggests occult themes have a public layer to entrance, and a hidden meaning to communicate among initiates.

The recurring theme is of chainlinks intact or broken, the link of experience opened

Wherein we see the question is more attractive than the theorem

Keith and Ken and Neil doing a trilateral juggling act with sledgehammers

While Jung and Freud run up the double helix staircase in the watchtower

And scatter the pyncheons from the roof with reverberating bootsteppin

In New York first time 1964 a knot of buzzing bystanders surrounds two large opponents

The large white man shouts, "I exist!"

to which, each time, the just-as-large black man challenges, "How do you know! HOW DO YOU KNOW!"

In JFK and 9/11 we have a simple story for mass consumption veiling the business-not-personal Coolidgism

And it's only crass to be fascist in Nazi drag for certainly the conservative McCloy had no problem as an accessory to Barbie's South American Tour

One hand clapping would be Lifton slapping Dulles

with Neil's three-pound Estwing

Phil Dragoo Wrote:David

Peter Levenda presents Hitler dying in Indonesia January 16, 1970, while Simon Dunstan and Gerrard Williams place his death February 13, 1962 in Argentina.

I haven't finished with Levenda, but his travels to South America in the early 'eighties put him in jeopardy from unreconstructed Nazi zealots.

Ian Punnett on Coast to Coast AM last year had Peter Levenda on his guest for this hour:



Additional information and links are provided at the program's show page: http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2012/05/13

Taking into consideration the corporate and Muslim support for Hitler, the current so-called New World Order is evolution rather than revolution.

Ironic that the Muslim country providing the retirement home for one world leader was the Moses' reed basket for another.

David Guyatt Wrote:

Stan Wilbourne Wrote:What is thought but the modified use of the past to confront the approaching now. It is limited in what it can do. And, it is forever linked to what has been. Loops. Finite loops without end. We are traveling in circles.

No matter how sharp thought is, no matter how expansive, it is anchored to what has been. Suffering anchors the frame into reality.

It is possible, I think, that Blavatsky came upon an opening in this loop and touched the total mind of man. Nazi Germany became aware of this discovery and moved to use it for their purposes. The framework of Germany was absorbed in the American corporate structure after the war, and the battle is on to control being.

Stan, I'd be interested if you could further explain what you mean when you say that Blavatsky and the Nazis also found an "opening in this loop", because I'm not sure what you mean when you say this? Are you referencing what has been called the Vril-ya force - also once called the aether by alchemists - by any chance? Or is it more simple than that, say the gateway into the collective unconscious?

Stan Wilbourne Wrote:David, first, I am far from clear on this. If I understood it properly, if I had clarity, my consciousness would be in far different place. My consciousness is muddled, to be sure. But, from an early age, I always felt all of this is wrong. My mind pushes to understand this, but it is met with an ongoing struggle.

When you ask such a great question, I want to give an answer that comes from me. Not something I regurgitate from what I've read or learned from another.

Everything in thought is linked, attached to something else. Thought can never be new. It just can't. It can express the new, but in itself it is the past. Never a living thing. Always the shadow.

Yet this is where we live our lives. This is the place where suffering is born. This is our place of being. This cage is seldom even questioned. There is no way out using only the tool of thought. Thought keeps us spinning inside the circumference of the frame. Thought is the frame. The frame is thought.

That is the loop that is without end. The river of time. Our place of being. Total mind will never be touched with this tool because thought is dead and total mind is alive.

Along comes something truly revolutionary that states: "All of this is a dead end. All of it, wrong. True being, total being is completely different than where you live. There is a different life if you awaken. Total. Whole. Undivided."

That message is dropped/suggested to mind, and it begins to move in consciousness - which is what I believe to be currently taking place.

The opening in consciousness is no-thing. Not the concept of no-thing. But, the reality of it. We want to carry our personal psychology to other shore. It is impossible. The gateway to it is the destruction of self. The door is no-thing. That's a journey not many are willing to make. We may be very close to the point where our survival as a species depends on it. (Perhaps why the opening was created in the first place?)

The owners of the earth (dramatic license) are very much aware of this opening in consciousness and what it would be mean to mankind. Chaos is purposely created (the assassination of President Kennedy an example), thought pushed, manipulated and divided, layers of suffering created to anchor the frame and ensure its survival.

What happens to being without the frame? To put everything aside and ask that question may be most meaningful. I believe it to be a question the owners do not want asked. The answer could change all of this.

David Guyatt Wrote:

Stan Wilbourne Wrote:What is thought but the modified use of the past to confront the approaching now. It is limited in what it can do. And, it is forever linked to what has been. Loops. Finite loops without end. We are traveling in circles.

No matter how sharp thought is, no matter how expansive, it is anchored to what has been. Suffering anchors the frame into reality.

It is possible, I think, that Blavatsky came upon an opening in this loop and touched the total mind of man. Nazi Germany became aware of this discovery and moved to use it for their purposes. The framework of Germany was absorbed in the American corporate structure after the war, and the battle is on to control being.

Stan, I'd be interested if you could further explain what you mean when you say that Blavatsky and the Nazis also found an "opening in this loop", because I'm not sure what you mean when you say this? Are you referencing what has been called the Vril-ya force - also once called the aether by alchemists - by any chance? Or is it more simple than that, say the gateway into the collective unconscious?

David Guyatt Wrote:The argument is that the east seeks perfection in oblivion - whereas the western mind seeks knowledge and understanding.

David Guyatt Wrote:And over the ages they have been wrapped in all sorts of religious mumbo-jumbo[.] [emphasis added]

Stan Wilbourne Wrote:I suppose what all this comes down to, for me, is the personal responsibility I feel I have to free myself from this cage/pattern/track of existence where I have been dipped. In turn, I have passed it on (with great gusto) to my children. And on and on, the grand frame spins.