Drew Phipps Wrote:Since the US Government hasn't said anything (AFAIK) about the "coup" except to state that it supports the democratically elected government of Turkey (a statement originally made when the outcome was yet unclear), when I say "the official position" I am referring to the government of Turkey's "official position," which is that Gulen led it, with US support. I cannot and do not believe that the US Government, if it did decide to instigate a coup in another country, would be so inept and spineless as the alleged "coup" Turkish participants are said to have been. Our recent history with "regime change" in both Syria and Libya shows you the modus operandi of the official US Government, as well as the fortitude and competence that US surrogates on their respective grounds have possessed. (I do not mean to imply approval of such, merely to contrast it with the Turkish situation.)

I believe this pretend "coup" is a power grab on Erdogan's part. There is plenty of historical similarity to other such power grabs, from Hitler's Reichstag fire, to Stalin's "Great Purge", to the Church Committee's finding that the FBI falsely blamed "enemies of the state" political activists for FBI-sponsored bombings under its "Cointelpro" program, Algeria, Latin America, 9/11 and Anthrax, ... (long list omitted). To quote the article David just cited:

Quote: Some of the returning (Fascist) Italians are suspected of joining ardent terrorists who engaged in a wave of bombings that rocked Italy throughout 1969 and into 1970, killing and wounding dozens of people. Many of those attacks were falsely attributed to anarchists and leftists, as part of a "strategy of tension" to build political support for an authoritarian crackdown on the Left by Italy's security services.

There is even Seymour Hersh's uncovering of the Turkish role in the 2013 use of chemical weapons in Syria:

http://www.democracynow.org/2014/4/7/sy_hersh_reveals_potential_turkish_role

So, to the extent that the Turkish government could not have envisioned, or carried out, a false flag attack before 2013, there is good evidence that it has done so now.

I cannot, of course, prove that no Americans somehow played some role in this attempted "coup." I do think that anyone who trusts Erdogan and his government for the truth is bound to wind up quite disappointed, and any enemies of the US who think that the US government won't back up its surrogates is bound to wind up quite dead.

Lauren Johnson Wrote:Rumours of a secondary #TurkeyCoup as #Incirlik Airbase has been 'sealed'.#Turkey

AnonymousScandinavia added,
ilhan tanir @WashingtonPointİncirlik Airbase are cordoned off, banned any entrance or exit from US base due to 2nd Coup rumors/news.. https://twitter.com/Hurriyet/status/759510873006301185 …








[URL="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Breaking?src=hash"]
#Breaking[/URL]: Airspace over #NATO's #Incirlik air base seems closed. Turkish troops have surrounded it for 'inspection'

Magda Hassan Wrote:I heard this earlier today. Haven't caught up since I got in. Needs watching. Doubt the US is going to sit by and watch their nukes be at risk.

Turkish police said that the base is back to normal after deploying 7,000 personnel to surround the base.

Quote: That changed when the US decided to arm, fund and train Erdogan's deadly enemies, the Kurds, in Syria.

Drew Phipps Wrote:

Quote: That changed when the US decided to arm, fund and train Erdogan's deadly enemies, the Kurds, in Syria.

The US has periodically trained, armed and funded the Kurds since 1972. However, it seems that the Kurdish drive for independence from Turkey, Syria, and Iraq stops the US from supporting them wholeheartedly.

Drew Phipps Wrote:

Quote: That changed when the US decided to arm, fund and train Erdogan's deadly enemies, the Kurds, in Syria.

The US has periodically trained, armed and funded the Kurds since 1972. However, it seems that the Kurdish drive for independence from Turkey, Syria, and Iraq stops the US from supporting them wholeheartedly.

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WHY DID ERDOGAN BECOME AN ANTI-EUROATLANTICIST?

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29.07.2016


Turkey

Valentin Vasilescu

Russian aerial bombardments in Syria were extremely efficient, because they were intended to create breaches in positions of Islamist rebels that the Syrian army land forces have been able to exploit, liberating over 50% of the territory occupied by the rebels. The CIA and Pentagon have failed in terms of creating an army of opponents to fight against the army of Bashar al-Assad in Syria. Therefore, unlike Russia, the so-called anti-Islamic state coalition led by the US, over two years of bombings, did not cause significant damage to the Islamic State because on the ground, there were no allied troops to exploit the advantage.
Therefore, in January 2016, the White House decided to change strategy, introducing the use of Kurds as ground forces in their offensive against the Islamic state. The US weighed very well the consequences of their strategic plan to defeat the Islamic State which automatically leads to the creation of the Kurdish state, guaranteed by the White House. Kurdistan will encompass a giant area of ​​390,000 km² that now belongs to Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Iran and will have a population of over 30 million people.

The plan is based on an article by Lieutenant Colonel Ralph Peters, professor at the Command and Staff of the US in the Armed Forces Journal published in the edition of June 2006 [2]. The four years before the civil war in Syria and eight years before the advent of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria.


And here lies the question: was the conflict in Iraq and Syria not something planned long before, for the US to redrew the borders in the Middle East? Especially when seeing that this plan would allow Americans to create a network of Kurdish or Qatari gas pipelines to supply Europe, bypassing Turkey through Kurdistan and taking Iran and Russia out of the equation .
Yet Turkey has a strategic objective that encompass a transition from the European continent to the Asian and African through the Bosporus and Dardanelles straits. And the anti-Islamic State air operations are conducted by the Americans from the Turkish Incirlik air base. This is why the US needs Turkey and not vice versa. That Turkey would lose 45% of the current territory deeply angered President Recep Erdogan. The impulsive Erdogan can be criticized for a lot, much is forgiven by the Turkish people because he demonstrates patriotism. And therefore, no further military coup has a chance of success as the president of Turkey will be Erdogan.
This aspect of Erdogan is known to Americans, and simultaneously with the implementation of the strategic plan in Syria, it seems that the White House has prepared a plan of ousting Erdogan from power . This plan was to be implemented by Euro-atlanticist elites loyal to Americans, from the Gülen network. Erdogan claims that his enemy, hosted by Americans, is working for the CIA and that the Euro-atlanticist network "in Turkey would be one similar to that of George Soros, implanted in the former communist countries, after the fall of the Iron Curtain. Recruitment processes used by Gulen's network were scholarships or studies offered at prestigious western institutions with the help from the US government and the CIA.
Gulen's network was aimed particularly at young officers of the Turkish Army, who received invitations to attent important courses organized by NATO and the Pentagon. After that, the Pentagon put pressure on the Turkish General Staff, to assign these officers on the functions reserved for Turkey in various structures of NATO. Since they were junior officers without experience in troops, they needed to be exceptionally advanced, "jumping" over two or three ranks to reach the rank of major, lieutenant colonel, or colonel, as required by the rules of NATO. In the Turkish army to exceed the rank of major, and to command an echelon battalion, brigade, division, corps in the army, you need to fulfill length of service requirements, have good results in battle-prep tests, so that you are allowed to take the entrance exam to the Command and Staff Academy in Istanbul. After this, you still must be admitted. Afterwards there is 1-2 years of compulsory NATO work, the Pentagon presses the Turkish military leadership to advance once again these formally senior officers without the Academy, and employs them on important functions in the General Staff or command structure of the Turkish military or army corps.
According to Erdogan's supporters, thousands of Turkish officers recruited to Gulen's network went up the ladder in their military career on "on high speed", reaching ranks of generals and colonels in key positions. In sharp contrast, in the Kemalist army base, their former fellows remained captains or majors. This artificially created difference led to the failure of the military coup in Turkey [1].
Erdogan says that the Gulen network was able to attract almost 20-25% of the body senior officials (military, higher education institutions, media, justice, police, governmental apparatus, etc.). Erdogan says that the whole network always intended to betray Turkey, on orders from enemies of Turkey. It is the reason Erdogan immediately started to remove them from their duties, all members of the Euro-atlanticist network, having the model of a Stalinist purge in the early 50's. So Erdogan's stake is with the territorial integrity of Turkey, regardless of US plans in the Middle East.
[1]. Ralph Peters. "Blood Borders: How a better Middle East Would look," Armed Forces Journal (AFJ) (http://www.armedforcesjournal.com/2006/06/1833899)
[2]. Pourquoi en Turquie coup d'etat did not step Reuss t it? (Http://reseauinternational.net/pourquoi-le-coup-detat-en-turquie-na-t-il-pas-reussi/).