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Preparations & Ideas for the 50th - Peter Lemkin - 16-07-2013
Ian Kingsbury Wrote:At around midnight on New Year's Eve in the UK the
Phone and email systems get "clogged" and can take hours
To get all the texts and emails sent ,
maybe the 22nd could be a global "Remember JFK" messaging
And email to ALL OUR FRIENDS in our mailing lists both phone and
Text ?. Can we hire the Goodyear Blimp?.
As we are bombarded with ads for spot cream and pile treatment
Maybe it's time to give something back. And set a time and date
For testing global communication.
But this is preaching to the converted...and the air space over Dallas and the land around DP will be DENIED to any craft, and any person with a sign of protest of the official version. [except in distant caged 'protest zones'. To do so in or near a public place [DP], will be to break the law...which is, IMO, the only option left. Free Speech in the USA now = breaking the 'law(lessness)', and is often dealt with very harshly [pepper-spray, billy-clubs, tazers, CS, flash-bangs, heat-rays, noise-cannons, tanks, ninja-SWAT forces, etc.] Fight, and take what they deal out...or loose what few freedoms/free speech/rule of law are left - very shortly! Where is the spirit of the Chicago demonstrations of 1968? The anti-war protests around the S. Vietnamese Embassy? Etc. tweeting, sms-ing and holding up a certain number of fingers are not going to defeat the fascist forces in and out of uniform - nor awake the slumbering Sheeple in denial, IMHO. It is time to take to the streets [and organize blockades and work-stoppages/strikes, etc.], with peaceful means - but not intimidated by the stormtrooper/blackshirt tactics used against demonstrators now. Free speech and the RIGHTS to redress grievances and to protest - use it; or loose it!
Preparations & Ideas for the 50th - Charles Drago - 16-07-2013
Peter Lemkin Wrote:[H]olding up a certain number of fingers are not going to defeat the fascist forces in and out of uniform - nor awake the slumbering Sheeple in denial, IMHO. It is time to take to the streets [and organize blockades and work-stoppages/strikes, etc.], with peaceful means - but not intimidated by the stormtrooper/blackshirt tactics used against demonstrators now. Free speech and the RIGHTS to redress grievances and to protest - use it; or loose it!
BRAVO!
And don't think for a nanosecond that the self-described warriors for the truth who place themselves in the vanguard of those who would negotiate with liars for the right to tell the truth are unaware of the futility of their shared overt mission.
For example: I derive no pleasure whatsoever from having reached the opinion -- protected by the U.S. Constitution if nothing else -- that in terms of its highest level of leadership, JFK Lancer is an integral component of the contemporary Facilitator level of the JFK assassination conspiracy.
Preparations & Ideas for the 50th - Phil Dragoo - 16-07-2013
Shots heard 'round the world then
were instantly recognized as a coup d'etat
by the security state
--but more "'round the world" than in comatose CONUS
Is the onus on the choir
that the congregation sleeps
that the fairy media keeps
watch over the Castle
Stone's shock echoed the Dealey Plaza massacre
(anything less will fall
on deaf, dumb and blind kids' ears)
Do you hope to pluck this dusky jewel
The getting and spending Dodge-'em Cars
would be stilled by an electromagnetic pulse
(one which would place the large bead in the center
of the Century of the Fed thread
all else to stack on either side
a fearful symmetry
a hell of a ride)
Karma Shave
I never pass up a chance to ask
Did you notice that?
Until a prairie fire ignites
or an angel makes a blanket buy of media
or a flash mob/viral video excites
make every attempt to puncture tedia
And enough hand-wringing already
Preparations & Ideas for the 50th - Nathaniel Heidenheimer - 18-07-2013
"enough hand wringing already"
on a thread called "Preparations & Ideas for the 50th.
ohhhhm
Why do people post here? Do they just want to play trivial pursuit and say I told you so when the Titanic sinks? I am a HS teacher. I KNOW just how little opportunity there is for young people to hear ANY truth about the coup. ANY.
I suggest that people take five minutes a day and post out into a world where more and more can see the fraud everywhere and ..... I am told I should be more passive.
I am interesting in the JFK assassination because I think it explains power now. I guess for a lot of other people its just trivial pursuit. They write great things and ensure that only as few people as possible see it. I just don't get it.
Preparations & Ideas for the 50th - Peter Lemkin - 18-07-2013
Nathaniel Heidenheimer Wrote:"enough hand wringing already"
on a thread called "Preparations & Ideas for the 50th.
ohhhhm
Why do people post here? Do they just want to play trivial pursuit and say I told you so when the Titanic sinks? I am a HS teacher. I KNOW just how little opportunity there is for young people to hear ANY truth about the coup. ANY.
I suggest that people take five minutes a day and post out into a world where more and more can see the fraud everywhere and ..... I am told I should be more passive.
I am interesting in the JFK assassination because I think it explains power now. I guess for a lot of other people its just trivial pursuit. They write great things and ensure that only as few people as possible see it. I just don't get it.
I believe Phil was poetically stating the same thing you have expressed.
Yes, I agree Nathaniel, for some [or many?] unraveling the JFK assassination is a bit of parlor game of only playing Sherlock Holmes; failing to connect it to the current situation [and what has happened from then to now]; failing to connect it to the economic system; failing to connect it to how the State and Power are constructed [overtly and, even more, covertly] in the USA and the World; failing to provide 'outreach' to those not in the 'community'; and failing to come up with concrete methods of pushing back and enlightening at the same time. Your oft repeated suggestions [such as Amazon book comments and links within them] are good ones. I agree that here we are mostly [although not entirely] preaching to the choir, and often not working hard enough on direct actions 'on the ground' or in cyberspace. I often post on ideas for more direct action and confrontation; ways to lever open the closed or naive/information-denied minds of fellow Country and World Citizens. I have paid a very high personal price for my battles over 45 years...but continue, best I can. I was a professor here, and 'let go' for my progressive lectures and subject matter in my courses that touched on Deep Political Issues. My life is not important, except to me. That Amerika doesn't drag the Country and the World further toward where it is now (well over the line) is! Dallas and the JFK Assassination, 9-11-01, 7-7, and a few other high profile ops by the Crypto-Government/intelligence/military/financial Cabal do, IMO, offer opportunities to teach students and all citizens how power is really played out in the real World - not the fantasy/propaganda/mythological world presented through the media, myths, and PR/Propaganda Ministries and their minions. I personally am all ears for things to do in the real world and cyberspace, as well as real world gatherings locally or at pressure points to confront this menace we increasingly face, and to provide educational enlightenment and direction that gets to people and doesn't just sit on specialized internet forums. In another earlier thread on what to do about the 50th I made an impassioned plea for an People's occupation of the center of Dallas on or surrounding the 50th. This year, I don't think just a 'respectful' moment of silence will do anything. It serves no harm, but doesn't sufficiently challenge/address the demonic threat posed by the City 'Fathers' of Dallas [and 'D.C.'] to 'commemorate' their perfidy and cover-up of what happened and WHY...and how it changed America - and effects us all every day - and will until the Truth is generally known, acknowledged, and the heirs to the coup d'etat overthrown! We are at War, and ought to act as if we are! I believe in non-violent action, but one can be a warrior for Truth, Peace, Justice, Sanity, bottom-up Democracy, Equality, Sustainability, etc. without violence (that is their ugly tool - and one I reject).
Preparations & Ideas for the 50th - Nathaniel Heidenheimer - 18-07-2013
I am the biggest fan of Phil D's poems, and I hope he is not insulted by my calling them poems.
I have a dream that one day more than 87 eyeballs will see them.
Hey, I got OTHER dreams too...
Preparations & Ideas for the 50th - Albert Rossi - 18-07-2013
Nathaniel Heidenheimer Wrote:I am the biggest fan of Phil D's poems, and I hope he is not insulted by my calling them poems.
I second that. Aside from being provocative and erudite, to my ear they are often redolent of those great beat generation voices: Ginsberg, Corso (penguin dust, give me penguin dust!!), Ferlinghetti, Kerouac ...
Preparations & Ideas for the 50th - Phil Dragoo - 19-07-2013
The objection raised, that that was a long time ago, what difference can it make now
In a dusty factory corner I slid open a drawing board drawer and withdrew the yellowed card
Kierkegaard our friend to remind that always living forward never seeing, only in reverse
I saw the broken glass in the aftermath of Ayers and Dohrn, saw the Justice lawyers with their rictus grins, flipping off the ruddy-banded Maoists
Leaving for Taos in a minibus by the cemetary in Santa Fe Ginsberg bear on hind legs-like roaring at the window
Snowden is giving his life for this; Hastings had his taken
Unless I'm mistaken, the crowds can't hear a thing
Every day I find myself looking someone in the eyes and fronting them--just by the by--
--we'll get the smack from Burma thanks to historic visits by Obama and Hillary
Lean is made with Robitussin, Arizona Watermelon Drink and Skittles
Syria will pit the U.S. proxy Muslim Brotherhood against the Russian- and Iranian-backed regime
and doesn't it seem we continue to generate sink holes for arms to make them cornucopias for drugs and oil?
Is there a magic dopamine to effect a brief window of lucidness
What is the mass medium for this antidote to ignorance
It's nice when someone says, oh, I didn't know that
What led to that--let's bottle it, oh, but wait
It was just you talking to a friend who
Let you in side the gates raised
the shutters on the slit
in their armored
conning
tower
And if a Norman Mailer tries to tell you we were in Vietnam because of machismo
slay him with tales of a naysayer slain--so much they know that isn't so
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Preparations & Ideas for the 50th - Vasilios Vazakas - 02-08-2013
Gaeton Gonzi gave a speech in 1998 titled "We Know the Truth" that is also included in John Kelin's site
Fifty.
Fonzi closed his speech with the following pledge:
It's time we climbed into our own ring. That's what our future demands. Our future as researchers demands that we abandon our posture as explorers of a mystery and assume the role as re-enforcers of the foundation of truth. That, after all, is what most of us have been about. Now from this distance, these thirty-five years from that awful day, we can now clearly know what we believed from the beginning. Now we know the truth.
Let us shift the focus of the American people, let us lead the American people away from believing the truth to knowing the truth. And we can do this if we are persistent and steadfast in proclaiming the truth. This, I suggest, should be our challenging cry for the future:
We know who killed President Kennedy.
Why don't you?
Shouldn't we choose this cry as our motto for the 50th anniversary?
Now we know the truth.
We know who killed President Kennedy.
Why don't you?
Preparations & Ideas for the 50th - Charles Drago - 02-08-2013
Vasilios Vazakas Wrote:Gaeton Gonzi gave a speech in 1998 titled "We Know the Truth" that is also included in John Kelin's site
Fifty.
Fonzi closed his speech with the following pledge:
"It's time we climbed into our own ring."
Well past the time, actually.
Although it should be noted that some would object to Gaeton's use of the patois of the prizefighter.
Vasilios Vazakas Wrote:[Fonzi said,] "Let us shift the focus of the American people, let us lead the American people away from believing the truth to knowing the truth. And we can do this if we are persistent and steadfast in proclaiming the truth. This, I suggest, should be our challenging cry for the future:
"We know who killed President Kennedy.
"Why don't you?"
Shouldn't we choose this cry as our motto for the 50th anniversary?
We should.
Indeed, we must.
For those of us who knew Gaeton Fonzi and who continue to respect and cherish his memory, it is simply impossible to stomach the calls of certain latecomers to abandon our shared responsibility to lead and instead to meekly "agree to disagree" with the enemy.