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Declassified: The CIA "Oswald" and Mexico City - Tom Scully - 11-07-2015 Scott Kaiser Wrote:Quote:How would an ESSO Havana exec. know how to recognize people who were associated with LHO? If you read the newspaper article images displayed at the linked page, this exec. Barnes definitely was not paid by or an agent of Castro, and Barnes gave the FBI his Coral Gables office address. It was the same address JM/Wave had occupied. : Quote:The Castro Obsession: U.S. Covert Operations Against Cuba, ... Declassified: The CIA "Oswald" and Mexico City - Scott Kaiser - 11-07-2015 Tom Scully Wrote:Jim DiEugenio Wrote:This is one of the few shortcomings of the Lopez Report. I don't believe Barnes saw jackshit, and reason I say this is because you have Osborne who says he did not sit next to Oswald on a bus, then the FBI cross references two very different bus lines. Then you have Mrs. Mumford who thinks she rode with Oswald, is shown a photo of a Oswald look a like and says it's Oswald that rode with her, now you have Mr. Barnes on an air flight if Barnes crossed the border, how did he cross the border? Did Barnes walk across, did he drive, run or hitch hike? If he did none of those things then why would he need to take a plane into Mexico City? And, how did Mr. Barnes get from Miami or the Miami International Airport to Nuveo Laredo? Then he says he thinks he saw others with Oswald? Allow me to put this bluntly, he's full of shit! Declassified: The CIA "Oswald" and Mexico City - Scott Kaiser - 11-07-2015 It's ALL CIA disinformation BS! Declassified: The CIA "Oswald" and Mexico City - Scott Kaiser - 11-07-2015 The address alone at JM/WAVE should have given that way. Declassified: The CIA "Oswald" and Mexico City - Scott Kaiser - 11-07-2015 Good find Tom! Declassified: The CIA "Oswald" and Mexico City - Tom Scully - 11-07-2015 Scott Kaiser Wrote:............. Barnes reported what was officially unknowable, thus his report to the FBI was buried. AJ Weberman pointed out that the FBI claimed they checked the public library and credit bureau and could not find Barnes in Coral Gables. Did you notice Barnes's name is misspelled in at least one of the newspaper articles I post on his role at the ESSO Havana refinery? Probably not misspelled by accident. You're using Osborne as a source? Do you have any idea who Osborne was? I do, and yet I do not. The real Osborne changed his own date of birth, in 1917, it had matched the one the fake Osborne gave the FBI. John Howard Bowen's Sept., 1918 Military Draft Registration, images "b" and "a" : FBI reported in CE 2443: Quote http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh25/html/WC_Vol25_0301a.htm .....but furnished him with a card reflecting the following data : Name : JOHN HOWARD BOWEN Born : January 14, 1880 Father : JAMES A, BOWEN Mother : EDITH MONTGOMERY Place of Birth : Chester, Pennsylvania File Number : D-869-1880 Filed : March 6, 1956 http://newspaperarchive.com/us/pennsylvania/chester/chester-times/1915/05-18/page-5 Chester Times Newspaper Archive: May 18, [B]1915 - Page 5 [/B] http://findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=32875265 1885 - 1934 Fannie Hall Bowen http://findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=32875262 1878 - 1962 John Howard Bowen (No Social Security record found) Quote https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGYJ-Y18 Name: John Howard Bowen Event Type: Death Event Date: 31 Jan 1962 Event Place: Hamlet, Richmond, North Carolina Birth Year: 1878 Burial Date: 04 Feb 1962 Burial Place: Chester, Pennsylvania Cemetery: Lawncroft Cemetery Residence Place: Hamlet, Richmond, N.C. Address: 3 Main Street Gender: Male Age: 84 Marital Status: Widowed Race (Original): White Occupation: Clerk-Hotel Birth Date: 04 Jan 1878 Birthplace: Pennsylvania Father's Name: James Bowen Mother's Name: Edith Montgomery Spouse's Name: Fannie Mae Hall I have two questions. What could the circumstances have been that resulted in the real John Howard Bowen's changed d.o.b. from the date he put on his 1918 draft registration, January 14, 1880, which happened to be the same d.o.b., at the same place, Chester, PA, as the birthdate and place furnished by the John Howard Bowen to the FBI in Feb, 1964, to the birthdate on John Howard Bowen's January 31, 1962 Richmond County, NC death certificate, d.o.b. January 4, 1878? Alfred Osborne gave his address, according to the FBI, as the same address as the YMCA in Montreal. The real J. Howard Bowen.worked for the YMCA until at least 1927. https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=ymca+J.+howard+bowen+hamlet&tbm=bks books.google.com/books?id=qoQTAAAAIAAJ 1927 - ‎Snippet view - ‎More editions President, W. E. Blair General Secretary, Elmer D. Yost Memhership, Russell M. Schriner Physical, Walter A. Carnes Boys, Edwin D. Wiener Hamlet, R. R. President, L. D. Hushands General Secretary, J. Howard Bowen Assistant, The US Census of Richmond County, NC, shows John Bowen, age 60, a widowed hotel clerk. And, in 1961, the year before he died.: Full text of "Hill's Hamlet (Richmond County, N.C.) City ... archive.org/.../hillshamletrichm1961hill/hillshamletrich... Internet Archive This is the first Hill Directory of Hamlet and is completely standardized according to ...... Tel 582-2081 Bo wen J Howard elk Terminal Hotel r3 Main OURHAMLET.ORG View topic - Terminal Hotel in Hamlet NC The growth of the YMCA was spurred by a demand for lodging by railroad workers. Bowen was actually employed by the Pennsylvania Railroad YMCA. IN the age before jetliner travel, the small town of Hamlet, NC was one of the busiest freight and passenger rail junctions in the eastern U.S. With only a pop. of 6,000 the passenger rail terminal in Hamlet was recenlty reopened, despite the small population and the diminished routes of the Amtrak national passenger railroad system. Quote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamlet,_North_Carolina#Additional_information So , Hamlet once was an ideal places to quickly slip in and out of. Railroad employees received free travel passes as an employment benefit. The imposter Bowen obviously knew some background.: Quote: |