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The Cover-Up: How Was Movement from Phase I to Phase II Justified? - Jeffrey Orling - 23-03-2013
Interesting response... perhaps a bit paranoid. Doesn't matter. I simply had my interest in JFK reignited when I received an email from Russ Baker with a link to a 9 part movie online about the assassination. I spent the day watching and and then came over to DPF to read through the JFK threads... of which there many. I am certainly not trying undermine the thrust of the DFP. Not being a research I have nothing to ad... only my impressions based on my exposure limited as it is. I don't know why my comments or opinions evoke such a reaction... accusing me of being some sort of agent sent here to disrupt and cause DFP to lose focus. I am not an agent... with no intention other than understand some of the complexity... how the players I witnessed in the film fit together... and into the plot. I came upon new names... as I have not been a follower of the research over the years... and was curious to learn what DFP thought about some of those mentioned... such as Judith Baker, Ochsner...
The only similarity that I see between 9/11 and JFK is the same interests controlled the narrative and steered the policies surrounding the two events... the MIC and intel... both of which are legalized criminal operations of enormous power and control yet hungry for more and protective of their franchise. I tend to see the sponsors as a collection of the men at the top of these huge corps, conglomerates, monopolies... the empire... whose interests are served and supported by the pentagon and intel. It's a structure which is self renewing of personnel but the agenda remains the same. My sense is that these interests had somewhat less control over political power pre JFK and decided that this was too unreliable to secure this goals. JFK was their push to change that... a coup which left a neutered political system in place which was easily manipulated to serve their agenda... which included all things military in their control serving their goals.
It seems to me that the empire with a big stick becomes a self fulfilling prophesy much the way the need for guns is there because the need to protect from others with guns. The empire can't help but grow a powerful national security state which can justify itself by the chaos, terrorism and insurgency it gives rise to. The NSS has learned to cleverly (and no so cleverly) exploit the chaos, terrorism and insurgency it gives rise to. This informs my overarching view that 9/11 was not MIHOP but more of a LIHOP and JFK was a MIHOP... of the NSS. If this is mush... it's my mush. Feel free to ignore it.
The Cover-Up: How Was Movement from Phase I to Phase II Justified? - Jim Hackett II - 23-03-2013
Adele writ:
"The point of all this is that words and phrases can have, and do have, physiological consequences. Stay healthy."
Amen
Ma'am
The Cover-Up: How Was Movement from Phase I to Phase II Justified? - Jeffrey Orling - 23-03-2013
Jim Hackett II Wrote:Adele writ:
"The point of all this is that words and phrases can have, and do have, physiological consequences. Stay healthy."
Amen
Ma'am
And psychological consequences inform actual behavior... which is what makes the world go round.
The Cover-Up: How Was Movement from Phase I to Phase II Justified? - Adele Edisen - 25-03-2013
Jeffrey Orling Wrote:Jim Hackett II Wrote:Adele writ:
"The point of all this is that words and phrases can have, and do have, physiological consequences. Stay healthy."
Amen
Ma'am
And psychological consequences inform actual behavior... which is what makes the world go round.
And that, too, Jeff. It reminds me of a statement made by another, but earlier Russian physiologist, Ivan Sechenov* (around 1865), "The external expression of brain activity is in the form of muscular movement." Some might call that 'body language' these days, a way of analyzing and understanding emotional states. The psychiatrist and clinical hypnotist, Milton Erickson**, who had suffered from infantile paralysis as an adolescent, was a master in understanding his patients' moods and feelings by keenly observng their physical reactions to his questions and statements. As he had recovered the use of his body musculature little by little he had became aware of the tiniest and weakest muscle action which he could later observe in his patients' faces and bodies. These subtle actions might match the verbal remarks of the patients, or they might not, but in either case Erickson was able to surmise what the patients real feelings actually were, and thereby make progress in his therapeutic work.
*Ivan Sechenov biography: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Sechenov
**http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_H._Erickson
Adele
The Cover-Up: How Was Movement from Phase I to Phase II Justified? - Greg Burnham - 25-03-2013
Quote:Adele writ:
"The point of all this is that words and phrases can have, and do have, physiological consequences. Stay healthy."
Perhaps I was talking at break-neck speed?
The Cover-Up: How Was Movement from Phase I to Phase II Justified? - Jim Hackett II - 25-03-2013
Best
Jim
The Cover-Up: How Was Movement from Phase I to Phase II Justified? - Adele Edisen - 26-03-2013
Greg Burnham Wrote:Quote:Adele writ:
"The point of all this is that words and phrases can have, and do have, physiological consequences. Stay healthy."
Perhaps I was talking at break-neck speed?
At least, Greg, you did not lose your sense of humor. It is still intact and working - very well, I might add.
Hugs,
Adele