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The Military-Industrial Complex in the 50s and 60s - Jim DiEugenio - 21-01-2018
Nice to have you back Tracy.
The Military-Industrial Complex in the 50s and 60s - Peter Lemkin - 21-01-2018
Any new timelines or additions to the existing ones would always be welcome. They are incredible works of both time and hard & intelligent work!
The Military-Industrial Complex in the 50s and 60s - James Lateer - 22-01-2018
After reading the gold mine of information about JFK and the Military, I have a pet set of interpretations of all of this which I especially like, some of which are absent from even this plethora of facts:
(1) One fact has been totally covered-up for 55 years now. The resolution of the Cuban Missile Crisis came in the tradeoff of the Cuban missiles for the "obsolete" Jupiter missiles in Italy and Turkey. These Jupiter missiles were the only nuclear weapons under NATO command. General Lauris Norstad had made of whole career trying to create the "fourth nuclear power" which would be NATO. In 1963, Germany was in effective organizational control of NATO through the chairmanship of the Military Committee as well as "owning" the Secretary-General of NATO, Dirk Stikker, a longtime personal friend of Adenauer. In bargaining away these Jupiter missiles, JFK "took the food off the plate" of the German military as far as nuclear weapons were concerned. JFK and McNamara also fired the NATO nuclear advocate, General Norstad just for good measure.
(2) Around this same time, JFK and McNamara cancelled the Skybolt missile. This missile was to be the only nuclear capability where the UK could strike the Soviets. The Brits were irate. As a replacement for the Jupiters and the Skybolt, the Polaris submarine was offered by JFK. But this ship was a very high tech and expensive system and the US would obviously be in control of the Polaris for engineering reasons. So, this decision, (like the Jupiter missile decision) acted to maintain the US-Soviet nuclear monopoly. The German military General Staff (former Hitler men) didn't like this at all.
(3) It is likely that the Cuban Missile Crises was set up by collusion between JFK and Khrushchev for the purpose of getting rid of the NATO Jupiter missiles to lessen the risk of nuclear action coming from the government of Germany. Neither the Russians or the US (i.e. JFK) much liked the idea of a nuclear-armed Germany or a German-dominated NATO.
(4) The Nuclear Test Ban Treaty of 1963 was one important pretext for the JFK assassination. The giveaway is that almost identical short books were written in early 1963 by Judge Robert Morris and Louisiana right-wing fanatic Kent Courney. Why would these two be writing about disarmament in 1963?
(5) In The Ordeal Of Otto Otepka, by William J. Gill, Mr. Gill misrepresents the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty. He reports on this treaty as if it were a total test ban, not just the ban on testing above ground.
(6) General Thomas Power was against the Test Ban Treaty on solid grounds. He points up in Design For Survival that you can't test whether a missile with a warhead will work when fired at a target on an underground basis. You can test the missile and you can test the warhead, but you can't test them in the form that they would be used together as one weapon.
(7) General Thomas Power was not an insane person, a maniac or mentally unstable. There is only one thing that impugns his stability: at the height of the Cuban Missile Crisis, he took over the uncoded military radio system and announced "I am now personally in charge of launching a nuclear attack" (this fact apparently caused the Soviets to panic and capitulate due to the insane reputation of General Power).
(8) In 1958, the Joint Chiefs were relieved of any direct command over their respective services. Each service had its own top General or Admiral. Because of this, in his book General John B. Medaris called the Joint Chiefs "only a debating society." Operation Northwoods and the plan for a preemptive nuclear strike against the Soviets was apparently just "makework" trivia for a JCS with time on their hands and nothing to do.
(9) On 11-22-63, there was a military coup in the air. But that was because the real plot leaders planned to murder both JFK and LBJ. That would have required martial law to sort that out. But LBJ was warned ahead of time by James O. Eastland so he survived Dealey Plaza and the rest is history.
(10) Because JFK had taken the nuclear weapons out of NATO and away from Germany, the Germans had JFK murdered. A further motivation of the Germans was the revival of Nazi trials like the kidnaping of Adolf Eichman and trial and also the Auschwitz trial in 1962. The top Nazis in Germany and Argentina, etc. did not like this trend either.
(11) The first known pre-knowledge of the JFK assassination came from Santos Traficante in September 1962. This was the precise time when JFK was acting to kill the NATO nuclear capability leading up to the Cuban Missile Crisis.
I feel like the above facts are important and should be added to the multitude of facts previously known about the military-industrial complex, Billie Sol Estes, Fred Korth, and all the bizarre relationships reported above in this unbelievably detailed and excellent posting.
James Lateer
The Military-Industrial Complex in the 50s and 60s - Tracy Riddle - 22-01-2018
Thanks, everyone. I've been helping my aging parents a lot lately, and along with a full-time job I don't have the desire/energy to do much more research on JFK, 9/11, etc. Mostly I've been trying to escape reality by reading fiction (the entire Dune series, Philip Pullman's Dark Materials, re-reading Gormenghast, Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, Lord of the Rings, Bradbury, Asimov, etc). I have been active elsewhere on the net, lending my research skills to opposing the Orange Child Emperor and investigating Kremlingate. I'll do some updating of that thread I started last year.