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Paper I delivered at COPA for John Armstrong. - Peter Lemkin - 30-11-2013
Joseph McBride Wrote:It was interesting hearing Dawn deliver this paper after I
did my talk on Tippit. Varying views are welcome; I admire
HARVEY & LEE but disagree that (either) Oswald killed Tippit. For my extensive views on the evidence and context of
the crime(s), I will direct people to my book INTO THE NIGHTMARE: MY
SEARCH FOR THE KILLERS OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY
AND OFFICER J. D. TIPPIT.
I'm reading your book now [almost done] Joseph. I really like it, only as a researcher would have enjoyed footnotes and/or references, though I know where to find most of what you talk about - don't know if the average person does. I've long read Armstrong's book and think it is great contribution to the JFK research literature [even if one doesn't buy his two Oswald theory; however I do - certainly at the end of his life, and likely even earlier]. Although the two of you have different conclusions there is some overlap. Both of you find Tippit complicit in the plot and in 'need' of elimination. I think this is certainly so. Both of you find that the Oswald we saw shot [or shot with a blank, and murdered in the ambulance] by Ruby did not shoot Tippit. And there are other areas of overlap. Both the Tippit shooting and what was going on in Mexico City, to me, are the most fruitful areas now to reveal more of the plot and plotters. I think Tippit was always to be eliminated in the plan, but how and where, maybe even by whom was done 'on the fly' as various things did not go to plan as Harvey [or the Oswald we all saw arrested], it seems, realized back in the TSBD that something was 'rotten in Dallas, Denmark' and he sensed, correctly, or had the growing suspicion that he was being set up to 'take the fall' for something.....IMHO.
Also, I think most good researchers can agree that the original plan was quite amazingly complex, had contingencies for things going off-plan, and also had to make some last minute adjustments to events that weren't anticipated.
John, its interesting you are inclined to believe the story of the flight of an Oswald to Roswell. I find it somewhat compelling, but find it hard to imagine that NO witnesses would have heard or seen that plan land in such a strange location and take off again.
Paper I delivered at COPA for John Armstrong. - Dawn Meredith - 30-11-2013
Peter Lemkin Wrote:Dawn Meredith Wrote:Peter Lemkin Wrote:Interesting. Not sure I am convinced of 100%, but more than 90% rings true and I think this, or something like this may well have happened. I'd be interested to hear Joseph McBride's take on this and then a response by Armstrong. I'm reading McBride's book now. They have slightly different takes, with overlap. The only thing in the paper I didn't get was where it said that Harvey was also involved in the killing of Tippit. How? If this is the scenario, it really gives some 'meat' to one use of the 'Oswald Project'.
It has LEE killing Tippit. Makes a lot of sense to me. Especially since J Harrison who was friends with Tippit always say LHO killed Tippit, but had nothing to do with killing JKF. Sadly I had not read any of JA's work before Jay's passing. in 05 but I now suspect J knew there were two and it was LEE he meant. Just a guess since I can't ask him.
Dawn
The answer to that would be in the materials now held by W. Brown, methinks!
Actually I am not sure of that Peter. J's materials were not based on his ideas or thoughts but actual research. So I doubt that the this question could be found in his files. And if it could it would take many many hours/days of digging.
Paper I delivered at COPA for John Armstrong. - Peter Lemkin - 30-11-2013
Dawn Meredith Wrote:Peter Lemkin Wrote:Dawn Meredith Wrote:Peter Lemkin Wrote:Interesting. Not sure I am convinced of 100%, but more than 90% rings true and I think this, or something like this may well have happened. I'd be interested to hear Joseph McBride's take on this and then a response by Armstrong. I'm reading McBride's book now. They have slightly different takes, with overlap. The only thing in the paper I didn't get was where it said that Harvey was also involved in the killing of Tippit. How? If this is the scenario, it really gives some 'meat' to one use of the 'Oswald Project'.
It has LEE killing Tippit. Makes a lot of sense to me. Especially since J Harrison who was friends with Tippit always say LHO killed Tippit, but had nothing to do with killing JKF. Sadly I had not read any of JA's work before Jay's passing. in 05 but I now suspect J knew there were two and it was LEE he meant. Just a guess since I can't ask him.
Dawn
The answer to that would be in the materials now held by W. Brown, methinks!
Actually I am not sure of that Peter. J's materials were not based on his ideas or thoughts but actual research. So I doubt that the this question could be found in his files. And if it could it would take many many hours/days of digging.
I don't know the exact format of his million or two million page 'lifetime's work'. I should ask Joan M...as she would now know. That said, I think much on this subject must be in there somewhere, in some form..... Yes, it likely would take many months of digging!