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The Bahamas? - Magda Hassan - 21-05-2014
Drew Phipps Wrote:Plenty ganja there, mon!
::passingjoint:: Yeah, man, sure is but instead of being all mellow there are a lot of uncool crims and gangs. Not just the cricketers.
The Bahamas? - Drew Phipps - 21-05-2014
On that topic, from news today 5/21/14:
"James Comey, director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, said Monday the agency is "grappling with the question" of how to amend its hiring policies that exclude anyone who has smoked pot in the previous three years from being considered for a job."
Apparently the hackers that he needs to do cybersecurity aren't fond of the FBI's policy.
The Bahamas? - Magda Hassan - 23-05-2014
Keith Millea Wrote:WikiLeaks Threatens To Reveal Information That Glenn Greenwald Says Could Lead To 'Deaths'
[URL="http://www.businessinsider.com/author/michael-kelley"]
[/URL] Michael Kelley May 19, 2014, 8:23 PM
REUTERS/Anthony Devlin
The @WikiLeaks Twitter handle is widely considered to be run by its founder, Julian Assange. "We will reveal the name of the censored country whose population is being mass recorded in 72 hours." WikiLeaks on Twitter
America's National Security Agency (NSA) can "vacuum up and store the actual content of every conversation" in the Bahamas and an unnamed country, the new publication The Intercept reported Monday, based on documents leaked by Edward Snowden. Intercept editor Glenn Greenwald who wrote about documents leaked by Snowden when he was a columnist at The Guardian said the publication didn't reveal the country because it was "very convinced" that doing so would lead to "deaths."The Intercept
This graphic shows the countries targeted in the program detailed by The Intercept. After a heated discussion among WikiLeaks, Greenwald, Intercept editor in chief John Cook, and American WikiLeaks hacker turned Der Spiegal contributor Jacob Appelbaum, WikiLeaks tweeted that it would reveal the name of the second country being spied on by the NSA.@GGreenwald @johnjcook We will reveal the name of the censored country whose population is being mass recorded in 72 hours. WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) May 19, 2014
That threat implies that WikiLeaks knows the other country which would be possible only if the rogue publishing organization deduced it from the redaction or has access to the Snowden documents.
The most plausible way for WikiLeaks to have access to a Snowden cache is if Appelbaum, who led the reporting on several Der Spiegel articles based on NSA documents (which may or may not be from Snowden), shared information with his friend and WikiLeaks editor in chief Julian Assange.
Applebaum tweeted that The Intercept's redaction was "a mistake." Appelbaum, a close friend of Laura Poitras, the other journalist whom Snowden gave a large set of documents, also gave a presentation detailing a classified document listing technology available to the NSA's hacking unit, known as TAO.
It is not known how he acquired those documents. These coincidences do not imply that Appelbaum knows the unnamed country or that he offered this information to Assange there are other ways WikiLeaks may be able to obtain Snowden documents but the close association between Appelbaum and the key players involved are significant if they lend credibility to WikiLeaks' threat.
The threat's potential for harm is real: Snowden's closest source and the U.S. government believe that revealing the unnamed country "could lead to increased violence." Scary stuff. [URL="http://www.businessinsider.com/wikileaks-says-it-will-reveal-redacted-country-2014-5"]
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I was wrong. I was just looking at the Caribbean. The country is Afghanistan. Don't know why GG wanted to keep it hush hush. And don't see the purpose of withholding it. I'd be shocked if the US wasn't targeting Afghanistan. They've been all over the place for the last decade and a half.
The Bahamas? - Drew Phipps - 23-05-2014
Plenty of Poppies grown there for sure. At least now that the Islamic radical terrorists have been overthrown and its back to business as usual.
The Bahamas? - Magda Hassan - 23-05-2014
Yes, all under the watchful eyes of the US military. They've also rehabilitated the Burmese generals an opium production is moving into there now. Greener pastures.
The Bahamas? - Peter Lemkin - 30-05-2014
Wikileaks says they know County X to be .....(drum roll)....Afghanistan. ::darthvader::
Wikileaks stated Friday that, in addition to the Bahamas, the United States is tracking and recording all mobile phone calls within the country Afghanistan. In making the announcement, the publication claimed to be shedding light on information redacted by journalists at The Intercept who reported earlier this week on the existence of far-reaching NSA surveillance in a series of countries.
Characterizing The Intercept's decision to withhold the identity of what came to be called 'country x' as a form of media censorship, Wikileaks released a statement on Friday which argued:
Such censorship strips a nation of its right to self-determination on a matter which affects its whole population. An ongoing crime of mass espionage is being committed against the victim state and its population. By denying an entire population the knowledge of its own victimisation, this act of censorship denies each individual in that country the opportunity to seek an effective remedy, whether in international courts, or elsewhere. Pre-notification to the perpetrating authorities also permits the erasure of evidence which could be used in a successful criminal prosecution, civil claim, or other investigations. [...]
For those reasons, the group continued, "[we] cannot be complicit in the censorship of victim state X. The country in question is Afghanistan."Jualian Assange, editor-in-chief of the media outlet which focuses on exposing government and corporate secrets, stated: "Although, for reasons of source protection we cannot disclose how, WikiLeaks has confirmed that the identity of victim state is Afghanistan. This can also be independently verified through forensic scrutiny of imperfectly applied censorship on related documents released to date and correlations with other NSA programs (seehttp://freesnowden.is)."
On Monday, journalists Ryan Devereaux, Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras revealed that the United States is intercepting nearly every mobile phone call in the Bahamas and an additional country, which they declined to name, citing "credible concerns that doing so could lead to increased violence." Based on documents revealed by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden, the story also disclosed that the United States is spying on telecommunications networks in Mexico, Kenya, and The Philippines, using previously disclosed program MYSTIC.
Wikileaks immediately condemned the redaction of 'country x'compared it to previous "censorship" it perceived in reporting by the Washington Postand vowed to reveal the nation's identity within 72 hours.
The Bahamas? - Magda Hassan - 30-05-2014
Pres Karzai, a man of impeccable dress style, if not choice of corruption, refused to meet Obama in his surprise Afghan visit just this week because of this.
The Bahamas? - Peter Lemkin - 30-05-2014
Magda Hassan Wrote:Pres Karzai, a man of impeccable dress style, if not choice of corruption, refused to meet Obama in his surprise Afghan visit just this week because of this.
My goodness...the NSA and Obama even know now who his tailor is!!!! [Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy]
The Bahamas? - Magda Hassan - 30-05-2014
Peter Lemkin Wrote:Maybe his glorious cape was at the dry cleaners when Obama visited. Only one emperor with out clothes is allowed in head of state meetings.Magda Hassan Wrote:Pres Karzai, a man of impeccable dress style, if not choice of corruption, refused to meet Obama in his surprise Afghan visit just this week because of this.
My goodness...the NSA and Obama even know now who his tailor is!!!! [Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy]
The Bahamas? - Drew Phipps - 30-05-2014
To me, monitoring cell phone traffic in a country in which our armed forces are facing guerilla warfare seems way more justifiable as a matter of "national security" than Kenya or the Bahamas. Have we decared war on Kenya or the Bahamas secretly?