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Nix Film - Albert Doyle - 22-06-2014
The limo stop was supposed to be before the head shot in order to give a better target.
Nix Film - Bob Prudhomme - 22-06-2014
Albert Doyle Wrote:The limo stop was supposed to be before the head shot in order to give a better target.
There is quite a bit of controversy as to when the head shot actually occurred, Albert. Have you ever watched the recent interview conducted with Mary Ann Moorman, who took the famous Polaroid supposedly at the same moment as the head shot?
Nix Film - Drew Phipps - 22-06-2014
This is a film loop that cycles from a point in time before the head shot to a point in time after the head shot. The film has been stabilized to keep the limo at the center. The black areas are simply areas "off" the original film. Foster is in frame at the start of the loop (start in terms of time) her image drifts off to the right as the camera follows the limousine. Similarly, Bothun comes into view from the left as the camera pans toward him. The reason he's not there a few frames later is that the film loop has cycled back to its beginning. Watch the original Nix film here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNIXfiii_vo
or anywhere else. There are no vanishing and appearing bystanders. You are missing the point of the value of this work.
Here is a video of Mark Lane interviewing Mr. Nix with stabilized enhancements of Nix:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uDuhgBR4R8
Nix Film - Albert Doyle - 22-06-2014
Bob Prudhomme Wrote:There is quite a bit of controversy as to when the head shot actually occurred, Albert. Have you ever watched the recent interview conducted with Mary Ann Moorman, who took the famous Polaroid supposedly at the same moment as the head shot?
Just watch the clip. There's brain splatter and the jerk backwards that put precise reference to the head shot. The blacked-out areas occur after the head shot which means they can't be concealing any limo stop.
Nix Film - Bob Prudhomme - 22-06-2014
Have you watched the recent interview with Mary Ann Moorman?
Nix Film - Albert Doyle - 22-06-2014
Link?
Nix Film - Bob Prudhomme - 22-06-2014
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgNF-sPW8YI
The first three minutes contain the relevant information as to Ms. Moorman's recollection of the number of shots she heard and when she heard them, in relation to the moment she took the famous Polaroid.
Nix Film - Drew Phipps - 22-06-2014
Clint Hill's actions and his memoirs (or memories) don't quite add up either. He claims he started to move after a shot noise and Kennedy grabbed his throat (which is true but not very precise). He also claims both that there were two shots after that and also, somewhat contradictorily (as a fallback position?), that he didn't hear the second shot while he was running. He did hear the head shot (which he calls the third shot) while running. If there were two shots after Hill started to move, and before he got to the limo, then there must be multiple shooters. There just wouldn't be enough time for one shooter to fire a bolt action rifle twice in the short span of time between Hill's reaction and the headshot.
But the Nix film, and the Altgens photo (Z-255), doesn't quite agree with him. In Altgens, Kennedy is reacting, so is Jackie, and Connally. Hill is still riding, looking front and right. The [pick one:] (magic bullet) (the shot which wounded Connally) has been fired well before that frame. Remember that by the time Altgens is taken there has been heard by SS guys at least a "firecracker" noise, and a clear rifle report. Hill is, by the Nix film, obviously already on the move prior to the head shot.
Using Zapruder as a time reference, and assuming Hill reacts 1/18 of a second after the Altgens photo (which is giving Hill the benefit of the doubt) you get the following: z-313 (head shot) - z-256 (Altgens + 1/18 sec) = 3.6 seconds, not enough time for 1 shooter to fire a bolt action rifle twice. If any time at all passed between Altgens and Hill's reaction, it is even less likely that 2 shots could have been fired with a single bolt action rifle.
Hill also believes he saw the massive head wound to the rear of JFK's head. He's no doctor, but its hard to argue that he's just flat wrong about that (or he might be lying in support of conspiracy theorists).
What really happens IMHO is that Hill reacts more slowly than he remembers, well after the [pick one:] (magic bullet) (the shot which wounded Connally) and that there is only one shot afterwards, (which he hears) the fatal one.
There is only one other possibility consistent with Hill's memory: there were two headshots, one of which Hill heard and one which he didn't hear. For two headshots to arrive within 1/18 of a second of each other they must have been fired at almost the same exact time (from different locations, depending on which second shooter position you favor), but from Hill's position, he should have heard the sound of the report arriving at his position much faster from the closer grassy knoll than from the more distant TSBD (and therefore heard 2 reports).
It also seems likely that he would have heard the whipcrack of a supersonic bullet fired over his right shoulder from behind sooner than a "report" sound from the rear. Did the fact that he didn't hear that sound first mean that the shots came from somewhere else?
Nix Film - Albert Doyle - 23-06-2014
Bob Prudhomme Wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgNF-sPW8YI
The first three minutes contain the relevant information as to Ms. Moorman's recollection of the number of shots she heard and when she heard them, in relation to the moment she took the famous Polaroid.
OK, but I don't see how that relates to the Nix sequence shown above and the alleged limo stop.
Nix Film - Bob Prudhomme - 23-06-2014
Have you ever read the WC testimony of James Altgens, who took the famous Altgens 6 photograph?