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Declassified: The CIA "Oswald" and Mexico City - Albert Doyle - 20-06-2015
Don't worry Scott. Don't let them ignore you.
Declassified: The CIA "Oswald" and Mexico City - Scott Kaiser - 20-06-2015
Albert Doyle Wrote:Don't worry Scott. Don't let them ignore you.
I don't worry, it will be a matter of time before people are like, oh shit! Scott's really telling the truth! :
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Declassified: The CIA "Oswald" and Mexico City - David Josephs - 20-06-2015
Scott Kaiser Wrote:Quote:Poyle created the whole Mexican propaganda.
I'd like to say, that I have a number of sources in Miami, that in there old age now talk, Anthony, who was very close to my father and Richard Poyle who was also a leader in RECE told me.
Why else do you think Poyle was in Mexico? Why do you think that when my father showed Poyle the photos Poyle then didn't want to have anything to do with my father? Why do you think the CIA and Navarro tried to discredit my father? Why do you suppose my father called some Cubans while in New York and said the United States Government has ordered to kill Wilfredo Navarro for "Treason"? Why did both Navarro brothers die together in an unexplained car crash? The document you posted makes it sound as though Oswald traveled alone, "Oswald drove back".
Oswald didn't drive.
Scott... easy man, I'm not questioning your info, just asking that you restate it. Poyle did what on 11/22 to create propaganda? Was he one of the "presidential staff" who took all the records?
What part did he play, specifically.
The man the CIA calls Oswald in this document was not Lee Harvey, Scott... it's all a story... none of the evidence of his travel is authentic... if he crossed in with a car there would be other records...
Did you know that the records of Anahuac bus line were moved away from Monterrey right after the assassination?
The line the FBI claims he took yet produced no evidence
What is your knowledge about the Lawyer OCHOA...?
Declassified: The CIA "Oswald" and Mexico City - Scott Kaiser - 20-06-2015
I am taking it easy, what makes you think I'm not? In 1970 a Mr. Scott writes about Oswald detailing Oswald's experiences in Mexico. Who do you think this Mr. Scott was? That got the information from Poyle? Poyle was not apart of the "presidential staff". He was however, involved in the propaganda of Oswald's visit and phone call to Mexico.
Declassified: The CIA "Oswald" and Mexico City - Scott Kaiser - 20-06-2015
Look into what contacts Winston Scott had in Mexico, and what Poyle had in Mexico, and who was connected to Edwin Kaiser.
Declassified: The CIA "Oswald" and Mexico City - Jim DiEugenio - 20-06-2015
Jim:
At the Wecht Conference, Dan Hardway said that the reason this report on Oswald as a CIA Agent was never declassified is that it was never completed.
Dan further stated that in the deal that Blakey enacted with the CIA, anything that was not completed was subject to the CIA confiscating and then classifying.
So, in my opinion, this report is probably still classified. As I have never seen anything showing it has been declassified. And this includes from Malcolm Blunt.
The fact that it was meant to be an annex to the Lopez Report I think is very revealing.
BTW, let me thank Albert Rossi for convincing me to post these two essays at CTKA, and then writing that very good intro and doing the formatting.
Al is the kind of guy, who, like Malcolm, does fine work behind the scenes, and never gets enough credit for what he does.
Declassified: The CIA "Oswald" and Mexico City - Jim DiEugenio - 20-06-2015
"Well, you know if we do find out that this is a conspiracy you know that we have orders from Chief Justice Warren to cover this thing up."[SUP]46[/SUP]
When Gaeton Fonzi heard this from her his eyebrows arched. He asked, "Liebeler said that?" To which Odio said, "Yes sir, I could swear on that."
Liebeler then invited her up to his room at the hotel on the pretense of looking at some pictures. Odio described what happened next to Fonzi and the Church Committee:
"Not only that, he invited me to his room upstairs to see some pictures. I did go, I went to his room. I wanted to see how far a government investigator would go and what they were trying to do to a witness .... He showed me pictures, he made advances, yes, but I told him he was crazy."[SUP]47[/SUP]
Those WC guys were really dedicated to finding out who killed Kennedy, weren't they?
Declassified: The CIA "Oswald" and Mexico City - Scott Kaiser - 20-06-2015
Quote:Dan further stated that in the deal that Blakey enacted with the CIA
Could this be the reason for Blakey wanting push the mob did it theory?
Quote:Those WC guys were really dedicated to finding out who killed Kennedy, weren't they?
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Declassified: The CIA "Oswald" and Mexico City - Jim Hargrove - 20-06-2015
Jim DiEugenio Wrote:Jim:
At the Wecht Conference, Dan Hardway said that the reason this report on Oswald as a CIA Agent was never declassified is that it was never completed.
Dan further stated that in the deal that Blakey enacted with the CIA, anything that was not completed was subject to the CIA confiscating and then classifying.
So, in my opinion, this report is probably still classified. ....
J.A. and Dan Hardway have been communicating lately. I'll try to get John to ask him if there is anything at all he can say about what's in the annex, though there probably isn't much. Thanks for the terrific pieces!
Declassified: The CIA "Oswald" and Mexico City - Jim DiEugenio - 21-06-2015
One of the most ignored parts of the Lopez Report is the section dealing with the CIA's failure to do an inquiry into the alleged presence of Oswald in the Soviet embassy in the seven weeks between the alleged appearance and the assassination.
Lopez and Hardway say that there is very little question this should have been done. Especially considering the rules that were set down about American/Russian speakers in the embassy, and the alleged contact by "Oswald" with a very high up officer, Kostikov.
One of the main points in my work is that I believe that Goodpasture and Phillips in MC, and Angleton at HQ did all they could to conceal these questions and delay any inquiry about 1.) If it was Oswald, and 2.) Did he really meet with Kostikov.
The fact that there was no inquiry allowed the assumption that Oswald was there to continue, but it also allowed the alleged meeting with Kostikov to stay very low key and closely held.
If you ask me, Anne Goodpasture has flown under the radar for too long. She has been treated with kid gloves by too many people. In fact, if I recall, Bugliosi did not even mention her in his book, and Morley didn't ask her enough tough questions
One of the most incriminating parts of the Lopez Report is near the beginning. Lopez and Hardway are trying to find out who had the first pass on the photo and audio surveillance on the Cuban and Soviet embassies each day. Goodpasture said she didn't know and started throwing out names for them to find out.
Lo and behold, after wasting time and effort interviewing others, it turns out that the person who had immediate access was HER!
Now, if that does not make you a bit suspicious Vince and Jeff, then what the heck does?
In other words, why would she lie about something as simple as that?