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Wildlife Standoff in Oregon: FBI makes traffic stop? 2 men shot, 1 killed, reporter arrested - David Guyatt - 09-03-2016
How can you call killing an unarmed guy with his hand up "justified" - as the Sheriff seems to have done - simply because the guy's taunting them? Is "taunting" now an executable offence in the US? Whatever happened to taking surrendered people into custody?
Wildlife Standoff in Oregon: FBI makes traffic stop? 2 men shot, 1 killed, reporter arrested - Magda Hassan - 09-03-2016
David Guyatt Wrote:How can you call killing an unarmed white guy with his hand up "justified" - as the Sheriff seems to have done - simply because the guy's taunting them? Is "taunting" now an executable offence in the US? Whatever happened to taking surrendered people into custody?
There. I fixed that for you David.
Actually, there is a long and ignoble tradition of police killing uppity types. We're just seeming more of it because of the cameras. Ask any black or working class whites about their relations with the police. It is usually pretty bad and they rarely see police doing things by the book.
Wildlife Standoff in Oregon: FBI makes traffic stop? 2 men shot, 1 killed, reporter arrested - R.K. Locke - 09-03-2016
The Boiling Frogs Post people have done some good work on this. I haven't been following the story closely but I did listen to a podcast that Peter B. Collins did that was quite illuminating. I think it was this one:
http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2016/02/17/processing-distortion-with-peter-b-collins-final-days-of-oregon-standoff/
Wildlife Standoff in Oregon: FBI makes traffic stop? 2 men shot, 1 killed, reporter arrested - Drew Phipps - 10-03-2016
Today, the official findings of the shooting of Lavoy Finicum were released. It turns out, contrary to earlier "official" statements by the government, that 2 shots were fired by FBI agent(s). (Their first official report was no shots fired.) Makes you wonder how to trust their scientific or investigative findings in court if they can't even count their own bullets.
Wildlife Standoff in Oregon: FBI makes traffic stop? 2 men shot, 1 killed, reporter arrested - Lauren Johnson - 10-03-2016
Drew Phipps Wrote:Today, the official findings of the shooting of Lavoy Finicum were released. It turns out, contrary to earlier "official" statements by the government, that 2 shots were fired by FBI agent(s). (Their first official report was no shots fired.) Makes you wonder how to trust their scientific or investigative findings in court if they can't even count their own bullets.
This more complete video shows many shots hitting the car. They've got some 'splainin to do.
Wildlife Standoff in Oregon: FBI makes traffic stop? 2 men shot, 1 killed, reporter arrested - Drew Phipps - 10-03-2016
Right, I just mean the official findings are that 6 bullets hit Finicum fired from State Police and 2 from FBI. That doesn't include shots fired at the car that didn't hit him.
Wildlife Standoff in Oregon: FBI makes traffic stop? 2 men shot, 1 killed, reporter arrested - David Guyatt - 10-03-2016
Drew Phipps Wrote:Today, the official findings of the shooting of Lavoy Finicum were released. It turns out, contrary to earlier "official" statements by the government, that 2 shots were fired by FBI agent(s). (Their first official report was no shots fired.) Makes you wonder how to trust their scientific or investigative findings in court if they can't even count their own bullets.
Trusting the FBI and the police is an oxymoron. I remember the many inconstancies in the San Bernardino shootings that very quickly went silent in the media when the three witness came forward to say the guy they choose to be the rampant killer wasn't any such thing. It didn't save him or his wife from execution though.