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The two Rubys - Drew Phipps - 28-03-2016

They're all three wearing the same hat.


The two Rubys - R.K. Locke - 28-03-2016

I realise that there are two different Rubys. Just trying to flesh out the point that it's very possible that Ruby (of Chicago) knew Johnson at that time.


The two Rubys - Tracy Riddle - 29-03-2016

Jim Hargrove Wrote:Indeed there was.... Here 'tis....

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That's not "our" Jack Ruby. That's an older man. "Bush presented straw hats made in Connecticut to Nixon and 10 freshman Senators. May 6, 1953"
http://www.allposters.com/-sp/Senator-Prescott-Bush-Presents-a-New-Straw-Hat-to-Vice-President-Richard-Nixon-Posters_i9361287_.htm


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The two Rubys - Jim Hargrove - 30-03-2016

Hi, Tracy,

Our Jack Ruby was born Jacob Leon Rubenstein in Chicago on 3/25/1911. In a photo taken May 6, 1953 he would be 42 years old, which looks about right to me.

I noticed a couple of months ago that there was a VERY similar photo with Nixon and Prescott Bush and the hats but without Ruby, and I wondered then if one or the other was altered. But there are some obvious differences in the two photos, and I suspect they were both posed. Sure looks like Jack Ruby to me.


The two Rubys - Tracy Riddle - 30-03-2016

Jim Hargrove Wrote:Hi, Tracy,

Our Jack Ruby was born Jacob Leon Rubenstein in Chicago on 3/25/1911. In a photo taken May 6, 1953 he would be 42 years old, which looks about right to me.

I noticed a couple of months ago that there was a VERY similar photo with Nixon and Prescott Bush and the hats but without Ruby, and I wondered then if one or the other was altered. But there are some obvious differences in the two photos, and I suspect they were both posed. Sure looks like Jack Ruby to me.

The man looks older than the Jack Ruby of 1963, and that was ten years later. The real Ruby was in Dallas in 1953 (he was arrested on July 26 for carrying a concealed weapon, but no charges were filed).

I almost thought the man was Hugo Black at first. The hat doesn't help in trying to identify him.


The two Rubys - R.K. Locke - 30-03-2016

I think the picture bears a passing resemblance to Ruby but nothing more.


The two Rubys - Jim Hargrove - 30-03-2016

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Do you really think the man at left is older than the man at right?



The two Rubys - Tracy Riddle - 30-03-2016

You're cherry-picking a photo of Ruby with his stress face on. Here's a known photo of Ruby in the early 1950s.

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Just think about this. Ruby was already a sleazy nightclub owner and mob associate by 1953. What would a US Senator and new Vice President be doing posing for a picture with him in Washington, with other Senators? Does it even make sense?


The two Rubys - Jim Hargrove - 30-03-2016

Must we look at this as if we've read the Warren Report and nothing else? Ruby/Rubenstein clearly was either a U.S. intel operative or at least had some powerful CIA protection. To say he was just a strip club operator with mob contacts misses the whole point. Do you really trust what we've been officially told about Ruby?

As Castro and his growing number of rebels were attacking Batista's troops, Ruby was commuting between Dallas and the Houston waterfront community of Kemah, TX. James E. Beaird, a poker playing friend of Ruby's, told both The Dallas Morning News and the FBI that Ruby used to store guns and ammunition in a two-story house between the waterfront and railroad tracks in Kemah, TX., in Galveston Bay. On the weekends Beaird personally saw Ruby and his associates load "many boxes of new guns, including automatic rifles and handguns" onto a 50-foot long military-surplus boat. It was Robert McKeown who often piloted the boat to a drop-off point in Mexico, where Castro himself would land his yacht, the Granma, and pick up the arms. As McKeown delivered more and more arms to Castro, these two men developed a close, personal relationship. Their relationship became so close that shortly after Castro took over in Cuba he flew to Houston, TX and met with McKeown in an attempt to persuade his good friend to return to Cuba. Castro promised McKeown that he would be given a high government position or a business concession. When later questioned about Ruby's gun-running activities in Galveston Bay, Beaird said "many people knew all about this because he (Ruby) was so open with it." But unlike Prio, McKeown, and dozens of other people who supplied arms to Castro, Jack Ruby was never charged, indicted nor even questioned by US government authorities. Ruby appeared to have no fear of being arrested for his gun-running activities from 1952 through 1963. Not only did US government agencies overlook Ruby's illegal gun-running activities, but so did the Warren Commission, HSCA, the Church Committee, and the ARRB.

--From HarveyandLee.net


The two Rubys - Albert Doyle - 30-03-2016

It's clearly Ruby and clearly not the only other Jack Rubenstein it could be.