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It's Spartacus Time! - Cliff Varnell - 10-11-2016
Tracy Riddle Wrote:Dawn Meredith Wrote:Cliff Varnell Wrote:It's time for the enemies of Putin's President to stand up and announce our opposition to this rigged election.
Start to organize for the 2018 mid-terms, raise our voices and put so many names on Trump's enemies list (hey Agent Orange, I get first in line!) we'll swamp this sack of shit.
I do not believe this election was rigged. I thought for sure Hillary would steal it otherwise I predicted Trump would win. People are just fed up with the Clinton and Bush options. Notice how quickly Jeb was gone. That should have been a big hint to Hillary.
You were right, Dawn, and I made the mistake of paying attention to the "expert" pollsters. However, if a few more millennials had gotten off their butts in a couple of states, it would have been a different outcome. Voter turnout is the key - it was only 55% this year; I really thought it would be higher.
Once Comey sent the Treason Letter to Congress the fix was in.
There's an expression for it -- voter suppression.
Make the election so incredibly disgusting people turn off.
And that's what the Republicans did.
They are masters of voter suppression.
That's why it's a sick joke when someone accuses Hillary of being able to steal the election.
Republican do anything and everything to keep Democrats from voting.
It never happens the other way around in this day and age -- never.
It's Spartacus Time! - David Healy - 11-11-2016
I wonder how many "votes" will be deported over the next 18-24 months...
It's Spartacus Time! - Cliff Varnell - 11-11-2016
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-russia-in-touch-election_us_582475f5e4b0d9ce6fc0e5f4
Russia Says It Was In Touch With Trump Campaign During The Election
"There were contacts," Interfax news agency cited Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov as saying.
11/10/2016 08:35 am ET | Updated 12 hours ago
Andrew Osborn
MOSCOW, Nov 10 (Reuters) - The Russian government was in touch with members of President-elect Donald Trump's political team during the U.S. election campaign and knows most of his entourage, one of Russia's most senior diplomats told the Interfax news agency on Thursday.
Accused by defeated Democratic contender Hillary Clinton of being a puppet of President Vladimir Putin after praising the Russian leader, Trump has dismissed suggestions he had anything to do with the Russian government during the campaign.
But in comments that could prove politically awkward for the president-elect, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said there had indeed been some communications.
"There were contacts," Interfax cited Ryabkov as saying. "We are doing this and have been doing this during the election campaign."
Such contacts would continue, he added, saying the Russian government knew and had been in touch with many of Trump's closest allies. He did not name names.
"Obviously, we know most of the people from his (Trump's) entourage. Those people have always been in the limelight in the United States and have occupied high-ranking positions," he said.
"I cannot say that all of them, but quite a few have been staying in touch with Russian representatives."
Moscow was just beginning to consider how to go about setting up more formal channels to communicate with the future Trump administration, said Ryabkov.
A spokeswoman for Trump did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
FBI INQUIRY
The Federal Bureau of Investigation opened a preliminary inquiry in recent months into allegations that Trump or his associates might have had questionable dealings with Russian people or businesses, but found no evidence to warrant opening a full investigation, according to sources familiar with the matter. The agency has not publicly discussed the probe.
The U.S. government has blamed Russia for cyber attacks on Democratic Party organizations.
Trump, who has spoken of his desire to improve tattered U.S.-Russia ties, has said he might meet Putin before his inauguration, but Putin's spokesman has said there are currently no plans for such a meeting.
Interfax reported on Wednesday that Dmitry Peskov, Putin's spokesman, would be in New York this week for a chess tournament, a few blocks from Trump Tower, where the president-elect has his office.
But it cited Peskov as saying he did not plan to pass any message to Trump from Putin.
The Russian parliament erupted in applause on Wednesday when it heard that Trump had been elected and Putin told foreign ambassadors he was ready to fully restore ties with Washington.
Ryabkov was more circumspect though, saying the Russian Foreign Ministry felt no euphoria about the Republican's win despite wanting to normalize relations with Washington.
Moscow and Washington are at odds over Syria, Ukraine and NATO.
Ryabkov said Trump's allies had made some tough statements about Russia during the campaign and that his ministry was therefore not harboring any "rose-tinted" hopes.
"We are not expecting anything in particular from the new U.S. administration," Interfax cited Ryabkov as saying.
It's Spartacus Time! - David Guyatt - 11-11-2016
No! Say it ain't true. Treason!
Or...
Standard operating procedure.
All sorts of countries and foreign political parties would've been in contact with Trump during the election. It happens every election, all over.
It's Spartacus Time! - Cliff Varnell - 11-11-2016
Cliff Varnell Wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-russia-in-touch-election_us_582475f5e4b0d9ce6fc0e5f4
Russia Says It Was In Touch With Trump Campaign During The Election
"There were contacts," Interfax news agency cited Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov as saying.
11/10/2016 08:35 am ET | Updated 12 hours ago
Andrew Osborn
MOSCOW, Nov 10 (Reuters) - The Russian government was in touch with members of President-elect Donald Trump's political team during the U.S. election campaign and knows most of his entourage, one of Russia's most senior diplomats told the Interfax news agency on Thursday.
Accused by defeated Democratic contender Hillary Clinton of being a puppet of President Vladimir Putin after praising the Russian leader, Trump has dismissed suggestions he had anything to do with the Russian government during the campaign.
But in comments that could prove politically awkward for the president-elect, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said there had indeed been some communications.
"There were contacts," Interfax cited Ryabkov as saying. "We are doing this and have been doing this during the election campaign."
Such contacts would continue, he added, saying the Russian government knew and had been in touch with many of Trump's closest allies. He did not name names.
"Obviously, we know most of the people from his (Trump's) entourage. Those people have always been in the limelight in the United States and have occupied high-ranking positions," he said.
"I cannot say that all of them, but quite a few have been staying in touch with Russian representatives."
Moscow was just beginning to consider how to go about setting up more formal channels to communicate with the future Trump administration, said Ryabkov.
Say it loud!
Say it proud!!
Putin Trump is not our President!!!
Treason is the reason!!!!
It's Spartacus Time! - David Guyatt - 11-11-2016
::laughingdog::
It's Spartacus Time! - Cliff Varnell - 11-11-2016
Quote:It's a two party system. When all -- and I do mean all -- one party does is conduct witch hunt investigations into the leaders of the opposition we have to call it for what it is and what it isn't.
What that is isn't democracy.
It's fascism.
The Fascists have set the rules of engagement.
The goal is to produce fatigue in the populace toward your opponent.
Trump won because people had Clinton Fatigue.
So now we generate Trump Fatigue.
From now on anything bad that happens is Trump's fault.
Anything good that happens is because of Obama.
Before the election Trump said he'd only accept a fair election.
Imagine if James Comey had come out 11 days before the election and loudly pronounced that Trump was under a preliminary examination of his Russian ties.
Imagine if on election day Trump got 200,000 more votes but lost the electoral college.
Think he'd call that a fair election?
It's Spartacus Time! - Paul Rigby - 11-11-2016
David Guyatt Wrote:::laughingdog::
Quite. Have you ever read such balls?
It's Spartacus Time! - Cliff Varnell - 11-11-2016
Paul Rigby Wrote:David Guyatt Wrote:::laughingdog::
Quite. Have you ever read such balls?
Emphasis added:
Quote:Such contacts would continue, he added, saying the Russian government knew and had been in touch with many of Trump's closest allies. He did not name names.
"Obviously, we know most of the people from his (Trump's) entourage. Those people have always been in the limelight in the United States and have occupied high-ranking positions," he said.
They know Paul Manafort and Carter Page.
You guys still think Trump will re-set with Russia?
You don't know American politics.
It's only a matter of time and Putin goes under the bus.
It's Spartacus Time! - David Guyatt - 11-11-2016
Paul Rigby Wrote:David Guyatt Wrote:::laughingdog::
Quite. Have you ever read such balls?
Rarely. It's making me go cross-eyed.