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Elizabeth Warren 2020 - Magda Hassan - 09-11-2016
Cliff Varnell Wrote:Magda Hassan Wrote:Why would an academic from Massachusetts get a run? They had Bernie and sank him.
Elizabeth Warren is the darling of the Democratic base.
Bernie ran because she didn't.
Do you know anything about Elizabeth Warren other than she's "an academic from Massachusetts"?
If Warren were the Vice Prez pick we'd be talking about President-Elect Clinton.
Indeed. So why did Clinton select Kaine? And all the rest of the neo-con types around her when they were exactly what was rejected by Bernie supporters and many others too? The ones that have now voted for Trump for example.
Elizabeth Warren 2020 - Cliff Varnell - 09-11-2016
Magda Hassan Wrote:Cliff Varnell Wrote:Magda Hassan Wrote:Why would an academic from Massachusetts get a run? They had Bernie and sank him.
Elizabeth Warren is the darling of the Democratic base.
Bernie ran because she didn't.
Do you know anything about Elizabeth Warren other than she's "an academic from Massachusetts"?
If Warren were the Vice Prez pick we'd be talking about President-Elect Clinton.
Indeed. So why did Clinton select Kaine? And all the rest of the neo-con types around her when they were exactly what was rejected by Bernie supporters and many others too? The ones that have now voted for Trump for example.
Kaine gave a good introduction speech...then...meh.
Picking Warren or Sanders for VP was her only chance given the amount of noise generated by the phony e-mail story.
Elizabeth Warren 2020 - Magda Hassan - 09-11-2016
The emails had nothing to do with it Cliff. She lost all on her own. She ran an appalling campaign and took so many for granted.
Elizabeth Warren 2020 - Cliff Varnell - 09-11-2016
Magda Hassan Wrote:The emails had nothing to do with it Cliff. She lost all on her own. She ran an appalling campaign and took so many for granted.
Hate to tell you, but the e-mails had everything to do with it.
She was tried and convicted in the media over the course of the last 18 months.
When Comey made his announcement 11 days before the election the topics under widespread discussion were Trump's taxes and serial sexual assault.
Comey changed everything.
I don't think you can appreciate this unless you live here.
Elizabeth Warren 2020 - John Knoble - 09-11-2016
The DLC strategy of straddling the middle, courting favor with Wall Street and putting the concerns of the blue collar left came back to bite them this election. The Clinton campaign and its media and DNC backers pushed a lot of wrong buttons with voters who already felt they had been shoved aside for decades. The mistreatment of Sanders didn't help. It also didn't help that some on the left tried to cast Trump, a German-American with Jewish relatives who had to claim to be Swedish to do business in New York, as some type of a proto-fascist. The Drumpenfuhrer tactics may have caused some backlash in states like Wisconsin.
Areas where Trump outperformed Romney:
German-American distribution:
Hillary Clinton may be a good person, and she is certainly very capable, but the political team (as opposed to the governing team) around the Clintons was not very high-minded.
Even so, it wasn't a Reagan landslide.
Even many Trump voters probably have some concern that we are in uncharted territory now. With that said, he's a capable person who, like most people granted a position of responsibility, will probably be instilled with a conviction that he must govern responsibly.
It could be a blessing in disguise for Democrats, as the winner of this election may be destined to be the goat for decades of economic mismanagement in which both parties were complicit.
Elizabeth Warren 2020 - R.K. Locke - 09-11-2016
Let's see...
Bill Clinton - his friend - encouraged Trump to run in the first place.
The DNC rigged the primary against Bernie, someone who was polling much better against Trump than Hillary.
They ran an absolutely terrible campaign from start to finish and could not make her appear like a person who is capable of genuine human emotion.
They lost to a fascist game show host.
And some liberal idiots are blaming third parties and leftists. They will never, ever learn.
Elizabeth Warren 2020 - John Knoble - 09-11-2016
R.K. Locke Wrote:They ran an absolutely terrible campaign from start to finish and simply could not make her appear like a person who is capable of genuine human emotion.
I thought her style and likeability improved significantly as the months went on and she became more practiced.
Elizabeth Warren 2020 - R.K. Locke - 09-11-2016
John Knoble Wrote:R.K. Locke Wrote:They ran an absolutely terrible campaign from start to finish and simply could not make her appear like a person who is capable of genuine human emotion.
I thought her style and likeability improved significantly as the months went on and she became more practiced.
I must have missed that. Besides, how do you become "more practiced" at genuine human emotion? She was like something out of Blade Runner.
Also, I forgot to mention this:
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Elizabeth Warren 2020 - John Knoble - 09-11-2016
R.K. Locke Wrote:John Knoble Wrote:R.K. Locke Wrote:They ran an absolutely terrible campaign from start to finish and simply could not make her appear like a person who is capable of genuine human emotion.
I thought her style and likeability improved significantly as the months went on and she became more practiced.
I must have missed that. Besides, how do you become "more practiced" at genuine human emotion? She was like something out of Blade Runner.
Also, I forgot to mention this:
Where did that come from?
Elizabeth Warren 2020 - R.K. Locke - 09-11-2016
John Knoble Wrote:R.K. Locke Wrote:John Knoble Wrote:R.K. Locke Wrote:They ran an absolutely terrible campaign from start to finish and simply could not make her appear like a person who is capable of genuine human emotion.
I thought her style and likeability improved significantly as the months went on and she became more practiced.
I must have missed that. Besides, how do you become "more practiced" at genuine human emotion? She was like something out of Blade Runner.
Also, I forgot to mention this:
Where did that come from?
WikiLeaks.