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Is this real or some sort of perspective trick? - LR Trotter - 10-01-2017
​If up to me, I would think that the camera placement, height, angle, and distance just might cause the microphone to be seen in some views, but not seen in others.::fortuneteller::
Is this real or some sort of perspective trick? - Albert Doyle - 10-01-2017
If you think about it Larry, the shadow on the wall caused by the microphone would not disappear according to camera angle. Technically the shadow is dependent on the angle of the light making the shadow and is independent of the angle of the camera that films it, which is why this doesn't make sense and the only reason would be the mike dropping in and out.
Is this real or some sort of perspective trick? - LR Trotter - 10-01-2017
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:Before jumping to any conclusion about a seen and/or not seen microphone, and it's shadow, I would have to consider, again, camera placement and/or angle, camera height, and camera distance relative to permanent structures in the area photographed. The example used does not meet the criteria that I would need for making a judgement call that the said microphone actually "disappeared". Without such proof of a "disappearance", I have to conclude that it is there, but missed being in line to be seen in both photographs. In any event, I suppose I tend to wonder, as I wander, why the microphone was there, and by whom was it placed?
Is this real or some sort of perspective trick? - Albert Doyle - 10-01-2017
Which doesn't really answer the point about the shadow being dependent on the position of the light that made it and not the camera.
The shadow in this case would be fixed and independent of the angle of the camera that filmed it.
Is this real or some sort of perspective trick? - LR Trotter - 10-01-2017
Albert Doyle Wrote:Which doesn't really answer the point about the shadow being dependent on the position of the light that made it and not the camera.
The shadow in this case would be fixed and independent of the angle of the camera that filmed it.
Where goes the mic, the shadow should follow, but the permanent structure areas seen will still be dependant upon camera locations. JMO. FWIW.
Is this real or some sort of perspective trick? - David Josephs - 10-01-2017
There remains a small brick extension of the wall - it is on this extension that the shadow of the microphone is cast.
The time difference between images is split seconds of each other. You can see Ozzie walking at a point not 2 or 3 steps from the shooting.
I've look at every possible image I can find -
LR, the mic is hanging down to a point even with the top of the door
The image at the bottom right shows that mic is only about a foot above that man's head.
I appreciate you wanting more info about the set-up... there is plenty to offer in these images.
Here first is the entire area... remember the mic and shadow fall below the top of that door and to the right of the start of that little brick extension.
That mic should either be in all the images or not... it's handing on a cord
and these are 3 images... before, during and after.... No Mic, Mic, No Mic/Mic
And one last time... if anything we should see MORE of the mic in the bottom image based on the angle upward. These two images cannot be more than .5 second apart.
I also appreciate that "something" had to have happened to that mic... or we are looking at two different instances.. just makes no sense.
David Josephs Wrote:I found two images I could superimpose. Even the bricks line up above the door and over to the mic.
It couldn't have just disappeared. Either perspective or they did this at least twice ???
Is this real or some sort of perspective trick? - LR Trotter - 10-01-2017
All things considered David, with network TV there, with reporters, the microphone had to have been contolled by a TV network affiliate, and of course movable. But, I continue to believe the seen/not seen microphone and it's shadow is the result of camera placement relative to permanent structures.
Is this real or some sort of perspective trick? - Albert Doyle - 11-01-2017
The camera that looks more straight in sees it and the one on more of an angle to the entry area doesn't.
Is this real or some sort of perspective trick? - LR Trotter - 11-01-2017
Albert Doyle Wrote:The camera that looks more straight in sees it and the one on more of an angle to the entry area doesn't.
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:​Something that is mostly blocked from view appears above the crowd, but also has some shadow, as seen in the upper right on the "missing mic" picture. In any event, no way was the shooting a staged event, and only occurred once.Hopefully this is my last post on this thread about what to me, at best, is a non-issue.
Is this real or some sort of perspective trick? - Albert Doyle - 11-01-2017
I find it interesting because the shadow of the microphone is the product of the light that makes it and is independent of camera angle. So the camera that is more on an angle has no excuse for not picking it up since it is independent of camera angle.
I think the microphone is closer to the camera than the picture makes it look.