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Robert Webster and Marina - Charles Drago - 14-12-2010
John, et al,
I was told by a person employed as a social worker at the eastern Massachusetts residential facility in which a severely impaired Webster was being treated that:
-- Webster spoke infrequently and only to a select few.
-- He trusted, and therefore spoke to, my correspondent.
-- He spoke often of Marina, and he always referred to her as his "wife."
-- He stated the he and LHO were participants in a false defector program.
CD
Robert Webster and Marina - Jack White - 14-12-2010
Charles Drago Wrote:Jack White Wrote:Charles Drago Wrote:Would anyone care to comment on Robert Webster's whereabouts in the
1980s and 90s?
Are you referring to the ROBERT G. WEBSTER who was
in charge of REMOTE VIEWING for the CIA?
Jack
I know precisely where "G." was in that period.
Remotely, of course.
But seriously, Jack. Where was "our" Robert Webster?
And are you aware that he claimed -- to at least one care-giver -- to have married Marina?
NO! Can you lead us to the quote?
Robert Webster and Marina - Charles Drago - 14-12-2010
Jack White Wrote:NO! Can you lead us to the quote?
The "quote" in fact derives from a private conversation between the care giver and me which took place in 2002. I'm not at liberty to identify this person.
I know the city in which Webster was said to be residing (if I'm not mistaken, a well known female JFK researcher tracked him down there), and I can state with confidence that my correspondent, who was known to me for about six months before the conversation in question, at the time knew little and cared even less about the JFK assassination. He/she was aware of my involvement in the case, and therefore offered the info to make conversation during a long automobile ride.
And yes, I'm aware of how disinformation is vented into a system, and I've thought about the likelihood of the game being afoot.
My educated opinion: My correspondent was/is as advertised: a "civilian." I focused my questions to him/her on the married-to-Marina statement, and in my judgement he/she was accurately reporting Webster's statements.
Charles
Robert Webster and Marina - Jan Klimkowski - 14-12-2010
John Kowalski Wrote:The following articles may be of interest to you: Dealy Plaza Echo
Volume 5 No. 1 can be found on the Mary Ferrell Site:
Lee, Marina, and Robert E. Webster, by John J. Johnson
The Fourth Decade, also on Mary Ferrell, Vol 2. no. 5, Vol. 2. no. 6 and
Vol. 5 no. 6 respectively.
The Webby N' Ozzie Parallax, by Gary Hill [/url]
Webby N'Ozzy: The Saga Continues, by Gary Hill
Webster and MKULTRA: The Smoking Gun?, by Gary Hill
[URL="http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?absPageId=520313"]
John
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John - thank you for this. Gary Hill's articles are excellent and important.
Charles Drago Wrote:John, et al,
I was told by a person employed as a social worker at the eastern Massachusetts residential facility in which a severely impaired Webster was being treated that:
-- Webster spoke infrequently and only to a select few.
-- He trusted, and therefore spoke to, my correspondent.
-- He spoke often of Marina, and he always referred to her as his "wife."
-- He stated the he and LHO were participants in a false defector program.
CD
Charles - even acknowledging your wise caveats in post #13, the implications of this information are huge.
Robert Webster and Marina - Charles Drago - 14-12-2010
Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Charles - even acknowledging your wise caveats in post #13, the implications of this information are huge.
Indeed.
My source is no longer accessible to me, alas. As I think about that long-ago conversation, I'm reminded of how he/she stressed that Webster routinely feigned the inability to speak cogently (or at all), but that he was vocal, alert, and apparently competent when he chose to be with the few people he liked (and perhaps even trusted).
I among others view the Webster story as it is commonly held among researchers to be the Rosetta Stone for LHO/intel relations. But it very well could lead us deeper into some of the most heavily guarded areas of JFK-related skullduggery -- including Harvey and Lee doppelganger ops and most significantly Evica's "treasonous cabal" territory.
Robert Webster and Marina - John Kowalski - 14-12-2010
Charles Drago Wrote:John, et al,
I was told by a person employed as a social worker at the eastern Massachusetts residential facility in which a severely impaired Webster was being treated that:
-- Webster spoke infrequently and only to a select few.
-- He trusted, and therefore spoke to, my correspondent.
-- He spoke often of Marina, and he always referred to her as his "wife."
-- He stated the he and LHO were participants in a false defector program.
CD
Charlie:
Did Webster provide any other details regarding the false defector program such as who did the recruiting and where was it done?
John
Robert Webster and Marina - Jan Klimkowski - 14-12-2010
Charles Drago Wrote:I among others view the Webster story as it is commonly held among researchers to be the Rosetta Stone for LHO/intel relations. But it very well could lead us deeper into some of the most heavily guarded areas of JFK-related skullduggery -- including Harvey and Lee doppelganger ops and most significantly Evica's "treasonous cabal" territory.
It is both the similarities, and the differences, in their false defector, doppelganger, Randian, and probable MK-ULTRA journey to Mother Russia, and back, that speak so loudly.
My suspicion is that as the progress of Webster and Oswald was watched, monitored, minutely scrutinized, it became clear that they provided different opportunities to those intent on using them.
Rand dealt in Ones and Zeroes....
Robert Webster and Marina - Dixie Dea - 14-12-2010
Wow! That is a surprise about Webster marrying Marina...I have to wonder if true or not. Although, I do believe they may have at least met. However, in Harrison Livingstone's book "The Radical Right and the Murder of JFK" he posits that one of HL Hunts sons went to Russia and met and married Marina....but left her there, when he returned to the US. I have forgotten which son it was, but at the time I read it, I did read elsewhere, that he had actually gone on a trip to Russia, with some other guys. I don't have access to that book at the moment, or I would look it up....maybe later.
Dixie
Robert Webster and Marina - Charles Drago - 14-12-2010
Everyone,
Let's not let this get out of hand.
I've told almost everything I know; I've redacted my correspondent's name, the city in which Webster allegedly resided, and nothing else.
Except for the name of the researcher who I seem to recall actually visited Webster at that location. I refrain from identifying same because I'm not positive that the meeting ever happened.
Again, let's not jump to conclusions. Instead, let's think carefully and determin how we might proceed.
Charles
Robert Webster and Marina - Charles Drago - 15-12-2010
Jan Klimkowski Wrote:My suspicion is that as the progress of Webster and Oswald was watched, monitored, minutely scrutinized, it became clear that they provided different opportunities to those intent on using them.
Rand dealt in Ones and Zeroes....
The process is dynamic. Your insight is quite valuable, Jan.
And by "process" in this instance I mean the development of the nurtured, shaped, controlled, but by inescapable definition never one hundred percent predictable human experiments.
The East v. West conflict paradigm -- the Darkest Charade.