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9/11 Illusions, Special Effects, and Other Magic Tricks - Peter Lemkin - 26-02-2011
Good work Jack, Jim....!!!!!! I assume that was just a teaser - as I can think of many other visual and logical anomalies that day. Look forward to the book.
9/11 Illusions, Special Effects, and Other Magic Tricks - Jack White - 26-02-2011
Peter Lemkin Wrote:Good work Jack, Jim....!!!!!! I assume that was just a teaser - as I can think of many other visual and logical anomalies that day. Look forward to the book.
Peter...that is the 8-page insert color section of the book. There has
been a long delay in getting in printed with the original publisher.
I did that section about 3 years ago. A few minor things may need fixing
before going to press.
Jack
9/11 Illusions, Special Effects, and Other Magic Tricks - Jack White - 26-02-2011
Jeffrey Orling Wrote:I am curious as to what shaped holes would falling debris make? Square or triangular?
If the a sold compact object feel from 1000 feet onto and through a roof I would expect it to produce a puncture would which radiates from the impact and produce reasonably close to round holes. And if there was a stream of debris falling in one general area I would think this would only add to the average shape of the hole and a round form seems to make sense.
If the debris was raining down randomly with different horizontal speeds they might disperse and scatter. I would think one would have to study what DID fall into those holes before one decided that it wasn't falling debris but from a DEW.
You certainly can falsify the falling debris claim by showing a photo from inside those holes which contains no facade panels from the twin towers.
The holes in Building Six were NOT made by falling debris. This photo
shows the interior of the large hole. No fire. No explosion. No falling debris.
I have others which shows NO DEBRIS FROM ANY BUILDING in the lowest level.
Jack
9/11 Illusions, Special Effects, and Other Magic Tricks - Jack White - 26-02-2011
JO wrote:
There is something else odd about the frames. They seem to jump up and down. Obviously there is some cropping going on.
Why is that odd? It is impossible to show the full clip in motion. It is impossible
to show the full frame because the image would be too tiny. The "spire" has
been greatly enlarged from screen grabs, cropped and positioned to best show
the dustification. There is nothing odd at all when space is limited and photo
sizes necessarily small. You have no conception of how graphics are produced.
9/11 Illusions, Special Effects, and Other Magic Tricks - Jack White - 26-02-2011
JO wrote:
The fuel tanks of a 767 are more like 15' x 15' x 15'
An architect ought to understand volumes better than this!
15x15 = 225 square feet.
If there are 15 of these areas one feet deep to form a 15x15x15 cube,
but you spread each of the one foot deep sections of the cube out
side by side, you will 3375 square feet of area one foot deep.
Now where in the wings and fuselage of a 767 will you find a space
for gas tanks that cover 3375 square feet one foot deep? This ought
to be a cinch for an architect to figure.
Jack
9/11 Illusions, Special Effects, and Other Magic Tricks - Peter Lemkin - 26-02-2011
Jack White Wrote:Jeffrey Orling Wrote:Can you point out a melted car? I see singed, burnt, smashed cars and trucks... but I don't see melted cars. Where are the melted cars?
I call this a melted car. What do you call it?
That certainly is one 'wild and crazy' truck or car or whatever it was! One of the more amazing things [among so many amazing things on the day of the big Magic Show] NOT covered the the official [non]-investigation were all the cars damaged in such bizarre fashion. There are cars damaged in two different ways, I've noted [perhaps more]. There are one group that are physically intact, but the top surfaces [upon which dust had settled] are eaten away [paint and primer gone - steel seems 'rusted']; the second group, as in this photo, have UNEVEN and bizarre melting, bending, smashing, almost dripping. The first group I think are suffering from chemical reactions caused by the nanothermite[ate] in the dust; the second group are hard to explain without some exotic source of energy and heat. Physical damage [say, from falling objects] can NOT explain them - both by their location, for many of the vehicles, and more so by the nature of the strange deformations, which do not conform to falling objects impacting them.
9/11 Illusions, Special Effects, and Other Magic Tricks - Jack White - 26-02-2011
Peter Lemkin Wrote:Jack White Wrote:Jeffrey Orling Wrote:Can you point out a melted car? I see singed, burnt, smashed cars and trucks... but I don't see melted cars. Where are the melted cars?
I call this a melted car. What do you call it?
That certainly is one 'wild and crazy' truck or car or whatever it was! One of the more amazing things [among so many amazing things on the day of the big Magic Show] NOT covered the the official [non]-investigation were all the cars damaged in such bizarre fashion. There are cars damaged in two different ways, I've noted [perhaps more]. There are one group that are physically intact, but the top surfaces [upon which dust had settled] are eaten away [paint and primer gone - steel seems 'rusted']; the second group, as in this photo, have UNEVEN and bizarre melting, bending, smashing, almost dripping. The first group I think are suffering from chemical reactions caused by the nanothermite[ate] in the dust; the second group are hard to explain without some exotic source of energy and heat. Physical damage [say, from falling objects] can NOT explain them - both by their location, for many of the vehicles, and more so by the nature of the strange deformations, which do not conform to falling objects impacting them.
Right, Peter...like this fire truck, with only the FRONT half melted.
Jack
9/11 Illusions, Special Effects, and Other Magic Tricks - Peter Lemkin - 26-02-2011
Jack White Wrote:Peter Lemkin Wrote:Jack White Wrote:Jeffrey Orling Wrote:Can you point out a melted car? I see singed, burnt, smashed cars and trucks... but I don't see melted cars. Where are the melted cars?
I call this a melted car. What do you call it?
That certainly is one 'wild and crazy' truck or car or whatever it was! One of the more amazing things [among so many amazing things on the day of the big Magic Show] NOT covered the the official [non]-investigation were all the cars damaged in such bizarre fashion. There are cars damaged in two different ways, I've noted [perhaps more]. There are one group that are physically intact, but the top surfaces [upon which dust had settled] are eaten away [paint and primer gone - steel seems 'rusted']; the second group, as in this photo, have UNEVEN and bizarre melting, bending, smashing, almost dripping. The first group I think are suffering from chemical reactions caused by the nanothermite[ate] in the dust; the second group are hard to explain without some exotic source of energy and heat. Physical damage [say, from falling objects] can NOT explain them - both by their location, for many of the vehicles, and more so by the nature of the strange deformations, which do not conform to falling objects impacting them.
Right, Peter...like this fire truck, with only the FRONT half melted.
Jack
To my knowledge almost none [only a handful] of hundreds of vehicles suffering strange damage had visible fallen debris on them. There should be photos or reports of items [for example beams] impaling them or falling on them. I know of few such photos and no such reports...instead we have these truly bizarre deformed vehicles; partly deformed; certain substances seemingly deformed. All of this should have been studied in a true investigation. IMO, the 'officials' went OUT OF THEIR WAY NOT to investigate this aspect - to not even mention it! [But magicians don't like to give away their secrets..... could ruin the next show!]
9/11 Illusions, Special Effects, and Other Magic Tricks - Jeffrey Orling - 26-02-2011
It looks to me like a car which has been crashed in by falling debris. I see nothing which looks melted. Bent and mangled is not melted.
Fact checking things like the volume of the fuel tanks is a mouse click.
You type into google; fuel capacity of a a Boeing 767 and get:
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/767family/pf/pf_200prod.html
and it's right there
"Maximum Fuel Capacity 23,980 U.S. gal (90,770 L)"
9/11 Illusions, Special Effects, and Other Magic Tricks - Jack White - 26-02-2011
Jeffrey Orling Wrote:It looks to me like a car which has been crashed in by falling debris. I see nothing which looks melted. Bent and mangled is not melted.
Fact checking things like the volume of the fuel tanks is a mouse click.
You type into google; fuel capacity of a a Boeing 767 and get:
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/767family/pf/pf_200prod.html
and it's right there
"Maximum Fuel Capacity 23,980 U.S. gal (90,770 L)"
The car is pictured in situ where it was parked. Show me the wreckage
which fell on it.