Magda Hassan Wrote:

Paul Rigby Wrote:

Magda Hassan Wrote:http://home.alphalink.com.au/~loge27/c_war_aus/c_war_aus_dom/cwar_aus_d_petrov_commission.htm
http://www.historycooperative.org/proceedings/asslh2/maher.html

Is this useful to you Paul?

Evatt was a very bright man. Brighter than most. If he was dismissed by the spook propaganda circus as a conspiracy-obsessed nut it was because they were conspiring against him and others.

Thanks, Magda. I've read Robert Manne's book, The Petrov Affair (1987), and a very substantial bucket of whitewash it is, too.

Must mention in passing that Petrov was identified as a Beria man by ASIO (see the thread on Evica's fascinating book for the primary purpose of Operation Splinter Factor); and thus a prime target for bringing down.

Bialoguski, cultivator-in-chief of Petrov, reads at times like a Stephen Ward figure. Was Ward's actual role rather different to the one publicly portrayed? Just a thought for future reference.

Paul

Tantalising what you say about the Operation Splinter Evica thread. Do you have a handy link for that?

Magda Hassan Wrote:I think Ward was a much more interesting and multidimensional character than Bialoguski who just seems another garden variety anti-Bolshevik Russophobe to me.

Magda Hassan Wrote:I need to read up more on the whole Wilson government.

David Guyatt Wrote:Btw, in the RT report there is some very strange capitalisation going on? Can't really complain as this is something I do too, but this is exceptional - even by my standards...

Magda Hassan Wrote:

Paul Rigby Wrote:

Magda Hassan Wrote:http://home.alphalink.com.au/~loge27/c_war_aus/c_war_aus_dom/cwar_aus_d_petrov_commission.htm
http://www.historycooperative.org/proceedings/asslh2/maher.html

Is this useful to you Paul?

Evatt was a very bright man. Brighter than most. If he was dismissed by the spook propaganda circus as a conspiracy-obsessed nut it was because they were conspiring against him and others.

Thanks, Magda. I've read Robert Manne's book, The Petrov Affair (1987), and a very substantial bucket of whitewash it is, too.

Must mention in passing that Petrov was identified as a Beria man by ASIO (see the thread on Evica's fascinating book for the primary purpose of Operation Splinter Factor); and thus a prime target for bringing down.

Bialoguski, cultivator-in-chief of Petrov, reads at times like a Stephen Ward figure. Was Ward's actual role rather different to the one publicly portrayed? Just a thought for future reference.

Paul

Sorry Paul. I missed this at the time. My links seem to no longer be active any more also. Robert Mann when he wrote in the 1980's was a very right wing ideologue and was editor of the 'intellectual' hard right wing journal 'Quadrant'. He is now slightly to the left of Genghis Khan as he regards indigenous people and refugees as human being and as deserving of human rights and a true history. Naturally for such heresy he had to resign his editorship at Quadrant. But I'm pretty sure he is quite unreconstructed when it come to matters Soviet. Tantalising what you say about the Operation Splinter Evica thread. Do you have a handy link for that? I think Ward was a much more interesting and multidimensional character than Bialoguski who just seems another garden variety anti-Bolshevik Russophobe to me.

David there seem distinct echoes of the Whitlam drama with Harold Wilson. In Whitlam's case many of the Shakley lot but other also. I need to read up more on the whole Wilson government.

Paul Rigby Wrote:

David Guyatt Wrote:Btw, in the RT report there is some very strange capitalisation going on? Can't really complain as this is something I do too, but this is exceptional - even by my standards...

Not RT's fault, I assure you, but rather a product of automatic translation, I'm afraid, which responds to English-language texts by randomly capitalising everything but proper nouns. As with Ms. Lola Ferrari's Rabbit, there appears to be no obvious or good way of turning the damn thing off.

Paul Rigby Wrote:By Operation Splinter Factor, I meant the book by Stewart Steven, whose thesis, very obviously the product of some very selective anti-Angleton briefing, sought to persuade us of a very big lie - to wit, that the CIA ran a very active and very large campaign to liberate Eastern Europe from Soviet control.

In fact, in so far as I can make sense of what happened, precisely the reverse was true: the objective of the CIA was to provoke repression and continued Soviet military occupation, the better to continue the US assault on the traditional Western European colonial powers - chiefly Britain and France - while refashioning Germany to Washington's purposes.

The major CIA interventions were therefore designed to scupper those leaders and factions within Moscow who sought to loosen control or, as in Beria's case, withdraw from Eastern Europe. The CIA targeted Beria's men in embassies across the world to thwart their patron's initiatives and charm offensives; and when Beria fell - thanks in large measure to the Berlin uprising which united Red Army, the Communist Party and the CIA in one of the more remarkable confluences of interest in the early post-WWII phase of the Cold War - these were thought, with good reason, easy pickings for defection operations.

My take on this is not shared, as far as I can tell, by any historian of note, and there is, thus, no readily available link.

Magda Hassan Wrote:I need to read up more on the whole Wilson government.

David Guyatt Wrote:

Magda Hassan Wrote:David there seem distinct echoes of the Whitlam drama with Harold Wilson. In Whitlam's case many of the Shakley lot but other also. I need to read up more on the whole Wilson government.

A good place to start Magda, is Robin Ramsay's and Stehphen Dorril's book "Smear: Wilson and the Secret State". It certainly opened my eyes at the time.

PS, I just saw Paul recommended this too -- great minds and all that.::

David Guyatt Wrote:There was an excellent tv drama series called A Very British Coup broadcast by Channel 4 in the 1980's on this.

There was also a very good docudrama on TV about this back in 2006 called The Plot Against Harold Wilson by the BBC (that will never happen again now the Beeb is so neutered).