![]() |
|
SOPA, PIPA, ACTA and internet censorship laws. - Printable Version +- Deep Politics Forum (https://deeppoliticsforum.com/fora) +-- Forum: Deep Politics Forum (https://deeppoliticsforum.com/fora/forum-1.html) +--- Forum: Seminal Moments of Justice (https://deeppoliticsforum.com/fora/forum-36.html) +--- Thread: SOPA, PIPA, ACTA and internet censorship laws. (/thread-8560.html) |
SOPA, PIPA, ACTA and internet censorship laws. - Magda Hassan - 21-01-2012 Crazy stuff. Why don't they shut down Ford motors because their cars are used as get away vehicles in bank robberies, or driven by pedophiles? Or shut down Hilton and Sheriton hotel chains because prostitution takes place there and crimes are planned in their bars and restausrants? SOPA, PIPA, ACTA and internet censorship laws. - Seamus Coogan - 21-01-2012 Certainly not my proudest day. Remember though NZ has always been a test ground for a whole lot of stuff. This new internet clampdown and the policing of it is scary stuff and we are the Guinea Pig. It is very worrying. John Key is an asshole, but I doubt very much that any NZ PM would have the nads to stand up for anything. Whats concerning here is the amount of material American corporations have taken off of NZers creative property over the years. If your a kiwi the chances of you getting a patent without having US backing is sweet fanny Adams. Further that a lot of Maori names and designs have been ripped off by everything from toy companies to Hollywood. Its okay for the US to rip off and flay anything when they want but nooooooooooooo if your someone else it's see yah later. I mean Ed, if I had an idea all documented and you pinched it by right of you being a US citizen I would likely get done like a dogs dinner. Further that if you had an idea Ed and some dude with big Moolah saw it-well good night Vienna old son. SOPA, PIPA, ACTA and internet censorship laws. - Magda Hassan - 21-01-2012 C'mon Seamus! I lay the blame firmly at John Key's feet being the spineless jellyfish he is. As a good colonial lackey he knows his place. And that is grovelling outside the doors of the US embassy in Wellington. (Don't worry the door mat at the US embassy in Canberra is worn out from all our polititians grovelling here too trying to deliver the head of Julian Assange to Washington) Under David Lange and the old Labor Party New Zealand was the little mouse that roared and told the US stick their nuclear arsenal up their bottom. SOPA, PIPA, ACTA and internet censorship laws. - Magda Hassan - 21-01-2012 SOPA, PIPA, ACTA and internet censorship laws. - Magda Hassan - 21-01-2012 Really, some one needs to tell the US to have a cold shower, take a bex and have a good lie down. Completely over the top. The internet has been around 20 years and they're only now getting their act together? We lend books to each other. We used to make copies of all our records on cassette. The sky did not fall. SOPA, PIPA, ACTA and internet censorship laws. - Seamus Coogan - 21-01-2012 Magda Hassan Wrote:C'mon Seamus! I lay the blame firmly at John Key's feet being the spineless jellyfish he is. As a good colonial lackey he knows his place. And that is grovelling outside the doors of the US embassy in Wellington. (Don't worry the door mat at the US embassy in Canberra is worn out from all our polititians grovelling here too trying to deliver the head of Julian Assange to Washington) Under David Lange and the old Labor Party New Zealand was the little mouse that roared and told the US stick their nuclear arsenal up their bottom. The mouse that roared then proceeded under threat of a coup de tat to accept US spy bases on their soil. Oh yeah, we're hard we are. Nope Labour are pretty freaking spineless in a few ways. I doubt they'd have done anything. Oh and yeah I agree we all shared tapes and burned discs. All this is going to do is increase the amount of discs are burnt and portable hard drives are going to be used. It's bloody stupid lol. SOPA, PIPA, ACTA and internet censorship laws. - Magda Hassan - 21-01-2012 Yes, I expect that today's NZ Labor party is like our ALP and little different from the right wing parties and would have all the strength of wet spagghetti in standing up for New Zealand against the US. Still it can be done. Should be done. SOPA, PIPA, ACTA and internet censorship laws. - Seamus Coogan - 21-01-2012 Peter Lemkin Wrote:All About SOPA, the Bill That Wants to Cripple Your Internet Very Soon Cheers man very informative! SOPA, PIPA, ACTA and internet censorship laws. - Magda Hassan - 21-01-2012 SOPA Opera Update: Opposition Surgesby Dan NguyenProPublica, Jan. 19, 2012, 12:39 p.m. Update: Both SOPA and PIPA have been indefinitely postponed. We will continue to take updates about lawmakers at sopa@propublica.org As popular Internet sites shut down or blacked out in protest on Wednesday, users flooded our SOPA Opera news application and inboxes to let us know what their members of Congress were saying about SOPA. Safeguard the public interest. Support ProPublica's award-winning investigative journalism. Donate When we first launched SOPA Opera, few members in Congress besides the bills' co-sponsors and its initial opponents had made their opinion known on the proposed laws to regulate the Internet. That changed on Wednesday. Responses from constituents and Congressional staffers kept us busy updating the site past midnight. The response was overwhelmingly one-sided against the bill. This graphic (also at right) shows the likely vote tallies for SOPA Opera at the beginning of the day Wednesday and the likely tallies as of early Thursday. Before Wednesday, Sen. Jerry Moran and Rep. Ben Quayle were the only co-sponsors to have withdrawn their support of either SOPA or PIPA (Quayle did so without announcement just the day before). By the end of the Wednesday, at least six other co-sponsors had announced they had withdrawn their support. In total, at least 70 additional members of Congress voiced strong opposition to SOPA or PIPA. Besides those 70, there were 41 additional politicians who we've categorized as "leaning no." That is, they've spoken strongly against the bills as they are currently written, but leave open the possibility that they may support the bills after they've been amended. (To see a full tally of positions, visit our separate pages dedicated to SOPA and PIPA.) How many politicians announced they would be co-sponsoring or otherwise outright supporting SOPA/PIPA on Wednesday? By our count: Zero. Advocates for PIPA and SOPA have rightfully boasted about the bipartisan makeup of their co-sponsors and supporters. The backlash against the bills was just as bipartisan, and far more boisterous.
[TABLE] [TR] [TD]Support[/TD] [TD]80[/TD] [TD]65[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Oppose[/TD] [TD]31[/TD] [TD]101[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Leaning No[/TD] [TD]0[/TD] [TD]41[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Unknown/Undecided[/TD] [TD]429[/TD] [TD]332[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Note: We didn't have a "Leaning No" category until Wednesday. We're relying on our readers to help keep this fast-changing count up-to-date. If you can document any changes of position -- either by tweet, news report, or another published source -- send it to us at sopa@propublica.org Some Questions, AnsweredAmong the most frequent questions is: "Why is my member of Congress listed as supporting SOPA even after he/she made a statement against it?"A broad answer: Some SOPA (and PIPA) backers pledge to heavily revise the bill, so the line between an opponent of SOPA and a supporter of an altered version of SOPA is not always clear. For example, Sen. Mark Udall (D-Colo.) recently made a statement against PIPA, saying that he would not vote for it "if it is not significantly improved." So we have classified his stance as "unsupportive," a category that doesn't show up on the front page of the news application. Along similar lines, Sen. Ben Cardin (D-Md.) expressed the same sentiment as Udall (emphasis added): "I would not vote for final passage of PIPA, as currently written, on the Senate floor." However, we have listed him as a "supporter," because he has not withdrawn his co-sponsorship of PIPA. So far, we've used the "opponent" designation for members of Congress who either back the proposed OPEN Act, which is fundamentally different than SOPA/PIPA -- like Senators Ron Wyden and Maria Cantwell -- or who have stated their opposition to SOPA/PIPA in unqualified terms, like Sen. Scott Brown and Rep. Ron Paul. As it stands, we can never be certain of each member's true position until a full vote is called. For Sen. Udall and other members of Congress, we've posted a link to their full statements so that readers can take into account the full context of their statements. We have also created a page listing all the statements and actions recorded so far so that readers can see the continuum of support and opposition. http://www.propublica.org/nerds/item/sopa-opera-update SOPA, PIPA, ACTA and internet censorship laws. - Peter Lemkin - 21-01-2012 Yes, shows what social networking via internet CAN do!...However, they [THEY!] will wait a few weeks until all calms down and do an 'end run' - Amrican football term] and hide something similar in another bill...until it sneaks through! Watch! The problem can ONLY be solved by a complete change of Governance and new Paradigms!!!! endless fingers in the dikes will not work! |