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Another in the endless mass shootings in USA - this time Denver - Peter Lemkin - 20-07-2012
So, the story has changed a bit...part is understandable as they search for information...some is not. Police are leaking information they are not supposed to 'on condition of anonymity' and that is highly suspect planting of information! It was first thought he was in Medical School, but it seems that he was in the PhD program in Neurosciences within the Medical School. So, highly educated. He was wearing very sophisticated and multiple body armor and had a Glock pistol [note!] and military assault rifle. His apartment had sophisticated explosive booby-trap[s]. The story as to if he fired into the theater or at the line entering keeps changing - as do the number of injured [now 60, with 12 dead]. What is wrong with the 'picture'?! Stranger still is he was first called an Occupy member and now not. However, the film apparently contained scenes in which an Occupy-like person was a villain. Motive for this madness? Where did he learn the fancy shooting and explosive booby-traps work? Neurosciences? Can't wait to hear from his professors!........:mexican:and friends. His family isn't talking at this time - understandable.
Another in the endless mass shootings in USA - this time Denver - Peter Lemkin - 20-07-2012
It is now about 12 hours they have been at this apartment, and the bomb squad and demolition experts from the military have not yet figured out how to disarm whatever this non-military, no past history of crime, PhD student in neuosciences built.
Quote:Holmes' apartment, about four miles from the cinema, contains incendiary and chemical devices and apparent trip wires, Mr Oates said, adding the operation could take hours or days. Police said pictures from inside the third-floor flat were fairly disturbing and the devices seemed 'sophisticated'. FBI agents and police used a fire truck ladder and put a camera at the end of 12ft pole in the flat. Authorities have evacuated five buildings as they worked out how to disarm flammable and explosive materials connected by trip-wires.He also had two pistols and lots of ammo, along with his assault rifle, shot gun, full body armor, gas mask and some type of gas canisters. He apparently was firing IN the theater and fired one shot at the ceiling, fired off some gas cannisters and then started the slaughter, shooting people in their seats or as they fled. I lived a long time in Boulder, Colorado [where I went to University of Colorado and studied, among other things, neurosciences]; then worked for the Governor in Denver, so I know the area fairly well, and the school he was in too. I also lived a long time in San Diego. This one has my attention more than many......there are some huge pieces missing here and somehow I wonder if they'll ever be given out truthfully.....suspicious me. As he apparently fired nearly 100+ shots the death toll could have been much higher [72 persons shot; 12 dead; 9 critical]...and the booby-trap in his flat indicates to me he wasn't planning on coming home. Hard to explain his going back to his car and surrendering without any trouble.
Quote:One witness said the gunman appeared lackadaisical, "as calm as can be," and didn't say a word......guess he was just having a bad day with his neurotransmitters - and doesn't like people who like Batman.:mexican:
"He was sitting there like target practice," he said of the shooter. "He was trying to shoot as many people as he could."
Another in the endless mass shootings in USA - this time Denver - Peter Lemkin - 21-07-2012
Quote:As part of the advanced program in Denver, a James Holmes had been listed as making a presentation in May about Micro DNA Biomarkers in a class named "Biological Basis of Psychiatric and Neurological Disorders."AURORA, Colo. -- James Holmes was a shy, well-mannered guy, "a super nice kid," neighbors said, and a brilliant science student who was so smart, university officials considered him at "the top of the top" scholastically.
But over at least the past two months, the 24-year-old graduate student bought two Glock pistols, a 12-gauge shotgun and an AR15 assault rifle with high-capacity magazines, police say. Somewhere, he got two gas canisters and outfitted himself with head-to-toe body armor, complete with gas mask.
Early Friday morning, he walked into a packed movie theater in suburban Denver and, police say, opened fire on an audience enjoying the new Batman movie. Twelve people were killed and 58 others were injured.
It was the nation's worst mass killing since a gunman killed 13 people at Ft. Hood, Texas, three years ago, and it occurred less than 20 miles from Columbine High School in Littleton, Colo., where two teenage gunmen killed 12 classmates, a teacher and themselves in 1999.
"He seemed to be a normal kid. I don't know what triggered it," said Tom Mai, who lives next door to Holmes' family in San Diego. "This makes me very sad."
In a statement, Holmes' family expressed their heartache. "Our hearts go out to those who were involved in this tragedy and to the families and friends of those involved. ... Our family is cooperating with authorities in both San Diego, Calif., and Aurora, Colo. We are still trying to process this information, and we appreciate that people will respect our privacy."
Holmes was arrested in a parking lot behind the theater and is in jail. But what triggered the attack remains a mystery because he is refusing to talk, except to ask for a lawyer.
Police hoped to find clues in his apartment, about four blocks from the theater, but remote cameras showed a scene that one called "very disturbing" -- the rooms were heavily booby-trapped, with several jars full of ammunition and an unknown liquid and trip wires.
"The place was rigged to blow," said one state official. Bomb squads evacuated five nearby buildings as a precaution. Aurora Police Chief Dan Oates said it could take a day or two to figure out how to disarm the traps.
Police said much of the information they had gathered had come from news media interviews with Holmes' neighbors, acquaintances and college officials. They described Holmes as a friendly man who had been deeply involved in the Presbyterian Church in California. Police said they had found no record of any trouble with the law, except for a speeding ticket.
He grew up in a well-to-do family in San Diego, attended the University of California, Riverside, on merit scholarships and earned a bachelor's degree with highest honors in neuroscience in 2010.
"He obviously, academically, had the capability to do just about anything he wanted," school chancellor Timothy P. White said at a news conference. Holmes was at "the top of the top" academically, he said.
Jessica Cade, 23, who lived in the same honors dorm as Holmes, said he was "very, very smart, a little weird ... like you'd expect a really smart guy to be."
"They're calling him deranged and a lunatic," she said. "Never in a million years would that have crossed my mind."
Neighbors said Holmes' parents told them he couldn't find a job after graduation, so he moved to Colorado and enrolled in a PhD program at the University of Colorado in Denver. But university officials said he was in the process of withdrawing -- if they knew why, they weren't commenting on it.
Police said they don't know when or why he began planning the attack. At some point, he painted his hair red and began calling himself "The Joker," the green-haired villain from the Batman movies, said New York City Police Commissioner Ray Kelly, who said he had been briefed on the case.
Between May 22 and July 6, he assembled his arsenal with legal gun purchases from retail gun stores in Colorado, federal officials said Friday. Oates said he also bought 6,000 rounds of ammunition and a drum magazine capable of firing 50 to 60 rounds per minute.
About midnight Friday, with a paid ticket, he walked into the Century 16 Movie Theaters at the Aurora Town Center, made his way to Theater 9, and sat down to watch a special midnight showing of "The Dark Knight Rises."
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Another in the endless mass shootings in USA - this time Denver - Peter Lemkin - 21-07-2012
Quote:...through the Internet, he bought more than 6,000 rounds of ammunition: more than 3,000 rounds for the assault rifle, 3,000 rounds of .40 caliber ammunition for the two Glocks, and 300 rounds for the 12-gauge shotgun. The guns were all bought legally!The only news is that the Police and explosive experts from USG plan to detonate his booby-trap bomb in his apartment with a robot. I find that very odd - as it will likely destroy his apartment and most evidence in it [computer, writings, books etc.]. Surely, they can disarm a bomb made by an amateur. What is going on?! While he's had chemistry courses, bomb-making is not part of the chemistry labs and why they feel they can't dismantle / deactivate this one strikes me as very odd. :joystick:
Another in the endless mass shootings in USA - this time Denver - Peter Lemkin - 21-07-2012
Billy Kromka, a premed student at the University of Colorado, Boulder, who worked with Mr. Holmes for three months last summer as a research assistant. "There was no way I thought he could have the capacity to commit an atrocity like this," said Mr. Kromka, who is from Aurora. Mr. Kromka said that Mr. Holmes's "disposition was a little off" and that he could be socially awkward, one of the quieter people in the lab. He spent much of his time immersed in his computer, often participating in role-playing online games.
hock: Oh, and the Aurora Police Chief said photos taken inside Holmes' apartment remotely showed what looked like mortar rounds.....even with the USA's crazy liberal laws on guns, not readily available!
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Another in the endless mass shootings in USA - this time Denver - Peter Lemkin - 21-07-2012
It now appears that ONLY Bill Warner, private investigator tried to invent a connection to Holmes and Occupy and Holmes to Black Bloc. I would think a careful inspection into Warner's connections to FBI and DHS would be in order....
Another in the endless mass shootings in USA - this time Denver - Magda Hassan - 21-07-2012
Yes, indeed. This is what I have heard as well.
Another in the endless mass shootings in USA - this time Denver - Peter Lemkin - 21-07-2012
Magda Hassan Wrote:Yes, indeed. This is what I have heard as well.
A short search showed he appears on FOX [Fox = the Deep Political Apparat] and does anti-terrorism work
Another in the endless mass shootings in USA - this time Denver - Danny Jarman - 21-07-2012
Quote:Holmes - who had been working towards his PhD for a year before dropping out - had one techno song blaring from his stereo in the hours before the massacre and left the music on repeat in his booby-trapped apartment as he departed to commit the massacre.
Quote:[size=12]Shooter James Holmes, 24, dropped out from neuroscience PhD at University of Colorado in June
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Another in the endless mass shootings in USA - this time Denver - Peter Lemkin - 21-07-2012
Danny Jarman Wrote:Quote:Holmes - who had been working towards his PhD for a year before dropping out - had one techno song blaring from his stereo in the hours before the massacre and left the music on repeat in his booby-trapped apartment as he departed to commit the massacre.
Quote:[size=12]Shooter James Holmes, 24, dropped out from neuroscience PhD at University of Colorado in June
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He also left the door to his booby-trapped apartment unlocked! However, the music - loud and annoying was set to turn off at 1am - and did. A truly confusing picture. I think he had more planned than what happened. Well, at least he's solved what he's going to be doing for the rest of his life......but will we ever know the motive or the programming?!