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Another in the endless mass shootings in USA - this time Denver - Jan Klimkowski - 30-07-2012 Keith Millea Wrote:Quote:STUDENT MENTAL HEALTH CASE CONFERENCE Keith - yes, I did get that. I shivered in horror as the archetypal shadow of MK Cthulhu spread across my psyche... And settled, chuckling, inside my computer screen. Another in the endless mass shootings in USA - this time Denver - Adele Edisen - 31-07-2012 Peter Lemkin Wrote:Adele Edisen Wrote:Quote:From article by Jon Rappaport, July 26, 2012, posted by Peter Lemkin on July 27, 2012, Post #141.Here's what I'm inferring from their work. First, the heavy blood trail outside the Aurora theater, in the back parking lot, has been wrongly attributed to a neck wound suffered by one of the victims, Allie Young. When viewed in the hospital, her scar doesn't look serious enough to account for a massive blood loss, and the wound isn't even dressed. Why would anyone lie]about this? Peter, I hope we, including Jon Rappaport, are talkng about the same victim. Are we? I was just addressing the question about a photograph of a neck wound taken three days after the event in Aurora. As for the other issues, I'd have to go back to re-read everything else. I do have a question about the two gas masks: Where was the other gas mask found, in or near the car with the Tennessee license plates near the fire door exit? I didn't see it in the photos around the fire door and car; maybe I missed it, and maybe you can tell me or provide a link to such a photo. Which way are the bloody footprints going? From the fire exit door or to the fire exit door? Can't tell from the photos I've seen. Has the young woman said that she went out that door? Did she have a car or friend's car parked near it, and was trying to get to a hospital? How did she get to the hospital? Did she have a friend with her? Was this the woman whose friend tried to block the bleeding in her neck while still in the theater? Was this woman in Theater Nine where the shooter was, or was she in Theater Eight next door? Was it a strong pulse (arterial) or a weak pulse, possibly juglar vein next to the carotid artery, or from some smaller neck artery? As I said, I have to re-read the posted material and try to figure out which is what. Adele Another in the endless mass shootings in USA - this time Denver - Peter Lemkin - 31-07-2012 my answers interspersed with your questions. Adele Edisen Wrote:Peter, Not the only, but fairly good group of photos can be found HERE. There are SO many questions. There apparently was a camera near where the gas mask was left, yet we haven't seen any images from it....and I'd be willing to bet we may never. Another in the endless mass shootings in USA - this time Denver - Peter Lemkin - 31-07-2012 The 24-year-old appeared in court today wearing a maroon colored jumpsuit and his behavior was said to have been as bizarre as his first court appearance on July 23. His behavior was similar to this first court appearance where he looked, at times wide eyed. He stared blankly and only spoke one word the word "Yes" when asked if he wanted to wave his right to a preliminary hearing within 30 days. Holmes has also been officially charged with 12 counts of first degree murder, 116 counts of attempted first degree murder, one court of violent crime, and one count of possessing an explosive device. Adding up all the charges, the Colorado shooter faces 142 charges in total. According to ABC, throughout the hearing, Holmes' eyes sporadically grew wider as he raised his eyebrows, stared blankly around the room, and then stared down into his lap. ------------------------------------ NOTE: None of his classmates, friends or instructors have reported any such behaviors by Holmes before the 'event'. In fact, there was someone who had a drink and conversation with him only about a week before the 'event' and he seemed normal. The above description is of a person who is NOT NORMAL. Another in the endless mass shootings in USA - this time Denver - Adele Edisen - 31-07-2012 Mon, July 30, 2012 11:15:36 AM Pentagon psychiatrists, false flags, and staged terror From: Brasscheck TV <news@brasschecktv.com> The latest news is that the shooter from the theater in Colorado was under the care of a former Pentagon psychiatrist. Dr. Lynne Fenton won various grants and contracts to study schizophrenia. This new information reminds me of another (rather infamous) Pentagon psychiatrist, Dr. Jolyon West... Video: 6 minutes long http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/11666.html Goodman Green - Brasscheck P.S. Please share Brasscheck TV e-mails and videos with friends and colleagues. That's how we grow. Thanks. ================================ Brasscheck TV 2380 California St. San Francisco, CA 94115 Another in the endless mass shootings in USA - this time Denver - Peter Lemkin - 31-07-2012 Another in the endless mass shootings in USA - this time Denver - Adele Edisen - 31-07-2012 Peter, you said: Quote:Not the only, but fairly good group of photos can be found HERE. There are SO many questions. There apparently was a camera near where the gas mask was left, yet we haven't seen any images from it....and I'd be willing to bet we may never. Thank you for all your replies to my questions and for the photo reference. The information we have in bits and pieces is confusing. Fpr example, an article on the spine board found under that car seems to indicate that the police, upon descending on the car, found James Holmes inside the car (with the gas mask on) and so groggy they laid him on the ground after they broke a window of the car in order to get to him and pull hm out. He was totally unresisting and incapable of walking, appearing to have been drugged. They pulled off his protective clothes and devices. When he finally was aroused, they were able to get him into a police car, leaving all his gear, guns, and gas mask behnd on the sidewalk by the car(?). There is a pile of things shown there, but it is not possible to make out what they are, or if a gas mask is there. As you say, there are many, many questions, and more to come. I understand Holmes was just as groggy looking at his arraignment today as he was last time. Do they have him on medications of some sort for a reason? Or is this part of his illness? Adele Another in the endless mass shootings in USA - this time Denver - Adele Edisen - 31-07-2012 Ted Gunderson on Oklahoma City and Timothy McVeigh on 09/22/2010 Peter, that video is remarkable. I hope everyone watches this one, if they've not seen it before. I've never seen it before. He pulls so many things together, including Oswald. Thanks for posting it. Gunderson was born on November 7, 1928 and died July 31, 2011 - today is the one-year anniversary of his death. More about him: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Gunderson Adele Another in the endless mass shootings in USA - this time Denver - Ed Jewett - 31-07-2012 [TABLE="width: 798"] [TR] [TD] July 31-August 1, 2012 -- Holmes's shrink's government connectionsJuly 31-August 1, 2012 -- Holmes's shrink's government connectionsWMR previously reported on the connections between accused Aurora movie theater shooter James Holmes and U.S. government-funded neuroscience research programs at the Anschutz Medical Campus at the University of Colorado and at the Salk Institute in La Jolla, California, in addition to his father's research work on neural networks for the Defense Advance Research Projects Agency (DARPA). It has now emerged that James Holmes's psychiatrist, Dr. Lynne Fenton, worked as a psychiatrist for the U.S. Air Force. Aurora police seized a notebook, containing drawings of stick figures opening fire with weapons, that Holmes mailed to Fenton before he allegedly carried out the massacre of the theater audience at a screening of the Batman movie "The Dark Knight Rises." Holmes's defense attorneys are trying to obtain the notebook, which legal experts claim is privileged information between Fenton and Holmes, who was under her care during the time leading up to the shooting spree that killed 12 and wounded more than 58 others. Fenton officially practiced Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation in Denver but she has specialized in the study of schizophrenia. Fenton has served as the Director of Student Mental Health Services at the Anschutz campus since 2008. Holmes was one of six students to receive a National Institutes of Health grant for neuroscience research at Anschutz, a program he suddenly withdrew from in May. Fenton is a graduate of the Chicago Medical School in 1986 and did her residency at Northwestern University in 1990. Northwestern's Department of Biomedical Engineering receives government funding to conduct research into neural engineering and rehabilitation, including restoration of human function, for example, neuroprosthetics, novel motor system therapies for stroke victims and assistive technologies for victims of neuropathologies, bio-inspired technologies for robotics, such as artificial sensor arrays, locomotion systems, sensory-feedback control algorithms. The former Fitzsimons Army Medical Center, whose facilities Anschutz now occupies, specialized in neuroprosthetics for veterans who lost limbs in combat. In May, before he dropped out of his NIH-funded program at Anschutz, Holmes presented a paper on Micro DNA Biomarkers in a class on the Biological Basis of Psychiatric and Neurological Disorders. The Salk Institute, where Holmes, an an intern, worked on temporal illusion projects, is part of the University of California at San Diego. The San Diego campus also hosts the Neural Engineering and Theoretical Neuroscience Laboratory and the Retina Engineering Center of the Department of Bioengineering at the Jacobs School of Engineering, which has a program funded by the U.S. Army Telemedicine and Advanced Technology Research Center (TATRC), headquartered at Fort Detrick, Maryland, the home to a number of highly classified military medical research projects, incluidng weaponized anthrax research. One of the lab's projects is the design of retinal implants to replace damaged photoreceptors in the eye by detecting light and properly stimulating neurons in the retina or, simply stated, a technology that would allow the blind to see. Fenton was also the chief of physical medicine for the Wilford Hall U.S. Air Force Medical Center at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas, from 1990 to 1993. On April 16, 2003, Air Force Colonel Philip Shue, a psychiatrist at the Air Force Medical Center, kissed his wife good-bye before driving to work. On his way to work, Shue was killed instantly in a crash in which the driver's side was severely impacted. The Air Force, local, and state police determined that Shue committed suicide. End of story? Not quite. Shue's t-shirt was ripped open from his chest to his navel, with a six-inch vertical incision in his chest. Oddly, Shue's nipples had been removed. Shue's wrists were wrapped in duct tape. Investigators determined that Shue had suffered a psychological breakdown before mutilating himself and then committing suicide. A Kendall County grand jury later concluded that no foul play was involved in Shue's death and no crime was committed. Noted pathologist Dr. Cyril Wecht, who investigated the assassination of John F. Kennedy -- determining there was more than one assassin -- and other high-profile deaths, concluded that there was no way that Shue could have mutilated himself and that Shue fell victim to torture and homicide. A trial over payment of Shue's USAA life insurance policy did result from the death but the presiding judge changed the cause of Shue's death from suicide to homicide although he ruled in a "take nothing" decision that USAA was not liable in paying out Shue's life insurance claim to Shue's first wife. Nevertheless, the Kendall County Sheriff's office refused to re-open the case as a homicide. And, like the trial of James Holmes in Aurora, the judge ruled that cameras were not permitted in the court room during the Shue trial. Subsequently, in a politically-motivated prosecution by the Bush administration, Wecht faced 84 criminal counts of misuse of his public office as Allegheny County medical examiner, including alleged misuse of an Allegheny County fax machine. In 2009, the Bush-appointed U.S. Attorney in Pittsburgh dismissed all charges against Wecht. However, the case left Wecht $8 million in debt. Shue's murder, deemed a "suicide" by authorities, fits a familiar pattern of the government eliminating witnesses to illegal activities and gross misconduct. Although Fenton preceded Shue by ten years at the Lackland psychiatric department, Shue's suspicious death is an indication that he may have become aware of unethical activities at the medical center. Shue had also announced his decision to retire from the Air Force shortly before his death. In 2005, Fenton received a reprimand from the Colorado medical board for prescribing Vicodin, Xanax, Lorazepam, and Ambien to her husband, her employee, and herself. http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/articles/20120731? [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Another in the endless mass shootings in USA - this time Denver - Ed Jewett - 01-08-2012 The Colorado "Batman Shooter". De-mystifying Mass Murder in America
Dramatic, and recurring mass shootings seem to be a peculiarly American phenomenon, given the fact that every other nation that experiences such shootings soon passes appropriate legislation that effectively prevents the repeat of such preventable tragedies. Not in America however, thanks to the National Rifle Association and the numerous, well-paid weapons manufacturing lobbyists who threaten into silence and inaction most of our elected officials in DC, both Republican and Democrat, who can't seem to resist taking the bribes.Taboo Question: What were the brain-altering psych drugs that the Batman Shooter might have been taking or withdrawing from? by Dr. Gary G. Kohls The now infamous, and roundly hated James Holmes was probably just another one of many brain-altered, and then gun-wielding, mass murderers who shot into an innocent crowd after making impressively bizarre plans to do so. There are many similarities with the 1999 Columbine shootings that happened only a few miles away. But what impressed me was the fact that the first words out of the mouths of the media and ruling elites immediately after many of these shootings was this obfuscating sentiment: "This is an act of senseless violence', and we will probably never understand why it happened"; meaning, of course, don't bother speculating about the motives of the shooter. And don't ask any unwanted probing questions, especially about Holmes' psychiatrist and what mind-altering drugs she probably prescribed for him. "Trust us", they are saying, "we're the experts." Unfortunately, these experts are also likely to be beholden to various powers-that-be that aren't interested in having us sheeple understand what really went down on at the midnight Batman movie. And they don't seem to be very interested in solving the problem or curing the malady that is the epidemic of American gun violence. The assorted potentially guilty accomplices are covering their behinds. They want to be sure that they will be held blameless when the final "official" report is released in a year or so. So don't expect to be told everything that we need to know so that we can make sense of mass shootings any time soon. Psychiatry and BigPharma are off limits. Do expect to hear all sorts of irrelevant spin-off verbiage about what kinds of guns and ammo were used and whether or not there will be an "insanity defense". And, of course, the overwhelming reportage, until the trial starts, will be about the hundreds of victims and their dramatic stories rather than about the possible motivations of the shooter. If there is evidence that will help us naïve "consumers" of drugs and information and advertisements and propaganda to make sense out of events that will give us a fighting chance to prevent them in the future, don't expect that we will be told about it - until and unless some courageous investigative journalist does the hard sleuthing work and is allowed to report his findings. We will certainly be as confused about the Batman Shooter as most of us were about the Columbine shooters. Making futile the attempts to de-mystify mass murderIf the real connections that would help to de-mystify the latest mass shootings are suppressed, as expected, the gradually approaching police state agenda of the 1% will be enabled. Prepare for "domestic" spy drones over America, more conceal and carry guns and assault rifles purchased by freaked-out gun-owners, metal detectors everywhere and taxpayer-paid private security firms frisking us as we stand in line to see the next violence-inducing, fear-inducing shoot-em-up fantasy film about fictitious time-traveling "undead" monsters, or some new and laughably absurd super-hero movie that will surely stimulate ideas about violence to who-knows-what mentally unsound or brain-drugged copy-cat wannabe who might fancy himself as a homicidal avenger of injustice (or as a competitor for the Guiness Book of World Records for non-combat mass murders). I have been listening and watching the repetitive and sensationalistic news coverage of the Aurora shootings during the days since the deed was done. And virtually nobody wants to talk about the psychotropic drugs that most of the school and workplace shooters were taking or withdrawing from. We all know that there are " sacred cows" lurking among us that are too big to raise questions about because they consider themselves too big to fail. And most of them have the economic and political power to ensure that they are not questioned. It is also well known that many major media "journalists", news anchors, politicians and police departments are careful to not step on big toes in crisis situations like the Batman shootings. Readers are fully justified in suspecting that the "experts" are covering up something in this case. Read on. Who might be potential accessories to the crimes of the Batman Shooter? So we need to wonder our loud who might be those "sacred cow" groups or industries that are contributing to or even benefiting from making obscure America's recurrent mass shootings. Many of them regard themselves as being too big to expose, criticize or otherwise implicate as accomplices, even as inadvertent accomplices. Any one of us can think of any number of potential culprits. My list includes this TOP 9 LIST (plus 3 major potential players further below): 1) the violent entertainment industry; 2) the violent, and addictive videogame industry; 3) the violent professional contact sports industry, where violent acts are hoped-for and applauded; 4) the food industry that is doing so much to malnourish vulnerable brains and bodies; 5) the weapons manufacturers and their lobbyist organizations; 6) the ease in getting lethal military style weapons (the Aurora killer reportedly got some of his guns at Gander Mountain and Pro Bass Shops); 7) our militarized culture and the media that glorifies the "legal" mass murder by "licensed to kill" soldiers in the battlefield and then condemns them when they come home, psychologically and spiritually tormented, and commit murders, suicides or crimes; 8) Congresspersons, Presidents, state governors and Supreme Court justices who indifferently vote against, refuse to pass or refuse to enforce rational harm-reduction legislation that could do so much to prevent these mass homicides; 9) Christian church leaders who fail to teach to the potential mass murderers in their own Sunday School or confirmation classes about the Golden Rule and the other nonviolent ethical teachings of Jesus, whom they profess to follow. But in the minds of many, the big culprits are the ones that the corporate media and their paymasters are scared to death about exposing, are: 1) BigPharma (the multinational pharmaceutical companies) and their propaganda that shapes public attitudes and behaviors and stimulates demand for drug prescriptions from their physicians; 2) the US Food and Drug Administration that grants approval for many potentially lethal psychiatric drugs on virtually zero long-term safety data and woefully inadequate efficacy data; 3) BigPsychiatry/BigMedicine and us obedient, quasi-enslaved physicians who are locked into those corporate entities and who have, by and large, not opened our eyes and ears to the data from the truth-seeking alternative medical, forensic and drug research community of altruists (who are not beholden to the obscenely wealthy and powerful pharmaceutical corporations). Much of this data, which is virtually never published in the hostile BigPharma-subsidized medical journals, shows unequivocally that most, if not all, of the five classes of potentially addictive, potentially brain-damaging psychiatric drugs are fully capable of causing drug-induced violence, drug-induced psychoses, drug-induced homicidallity, drug-induced mania, drug-induced suicidality, drug-induced dementia, drug-induced sleep disorders and drug-induced criminal behaviors (especially in unsuspecting adolescents who are often told to ignore the adverse effects and just keep on taking the drugs). He who pays the piper, calls the tuneBy ignoring the mountains of peer-reviewed complementary-alternative medical literature and only paying attention to what is advertised in the co-opted mainstream medical journals, we drug prescribers regularly - and often quite cavalierly hand out brain and mind-altering synthetic chemicals that BigPharma's ubiquitous, and very attractive, sales staffs try to reassure us are safe, curative and non-addicting us (with mostly skewed or insufficient data to back up their claims - and pens, pizzas and post-it notes to clinch the sale). Therefore, considering the fact that there is that massive amount of evidence that makes a strong connection between American school shootings and the use of (or withdrawal from) mind-altering, brain-numbing, remorselessness-inducing psych drugs, a fair question should be: "Was the Batman Shooter taking or withdrawing from any one of the scores of psychiatric drugs so readily prescribed these days?" (For essential background on this issue, see books by the whistle-blowing psychiatrist Peter Breggin, includingMedication Madness, Toxic Psychiatry, Talking Back To Prozac or Your Drug May Be Your Problem or these websites:www.ssristories.com, www.cchrint.org, www.breggin.org, www.madinamerica.com or http://www.mindfreedom.org.) But have we have heard on any radio or television station, even on PBS or NPR, a single word about the high likelihood of legal psych drug use or drug withdrawal in the case of the Batman Shooter? And have we heard anything about Dr. Lynne Fenton, Holmes' psychiatrist who would have been the major prescriber? A lot of critical thinkers smell a rat. There is a cover-up in the making. Bad advice: "Don't waste time trying to figure out what motivated the shooter" Interestingly, one of the survivors of the Columbine school shooter Eric Harris (who was taking the Prozac-like drug Luvox that had been prescribed by his tragically unaware Colorado psychiatrist, after a trial of Zoloft "failed") contributed to the myth-making when he advised the most recent batch of Colorado shooting victims to not "waste time trying to figure out what motivated the shooter or shooters. It's a waste of time" he said, "and it gives them exactly what they want (sic)." And then later in the interview he lamented the fact that "I don't think I'll ever understand." Duh. Psychologically and spiritually, any psychologist or spiritual advisor worth his or her salt, when dealing with the psychological and spiritual consequences of trauma, will tell you that that advice is profoundly anti-therapeutic and will, at the very least, lead to delayed healing - possibly permanently delayed healing. That statement made me wonder what dependency-inducing psych drug that he had been taking for the last 13 years. Perhaps he has already tried to taper off his drug but then found out that he couldn't tolerate the disabling, crazy-making withdrawal symptoms, and therefore he now justifies the continued use of a drug that he can't get off of. But he is certainly repeating what the "experts" always seem to want us to believe as they hide essential but "sensitive" information that might be uncomfortable for Holmes' doctor, or clinic, or pharmacist, or neuroscience grad school program, or family member, or pharmaceutical company, or gun seller, or legislato,r or secret black-ops military experimenter, or other potential accomplices. Are the authorities trying to protect the various industries and people that rightfully need to be named for their part in the massacres, however indirect? It is important for me to remind readers at this point to check out http://www.ssristories.com, where they will find a collection of 4,800+ damning, mostly criminal news stories about the behavioral and psychic toxicity of antidepressants. These are documented examples of psychotropic drug-induced violence that have made it into the media (via newspapers, TV, scientific journals) or were part of (only three!) FDA hearings (1991, 2004 or 2006) where public testimony about the lethality of FDA-approved psych drugs was allowed (and essentially ignored by the FDA panel). The thousands of examples reported on that website represent just the tip of what surely is an enormous iceberg, since even the FDA estimates that as many as 99% of adverse events from any given drug is never reported to that agency. What is the PDR trying to warn us physicians about when we prescribe antidepressants? [TABLE="width: 90%"] [TR] [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]The Physicians' Desk Reference lists the following common adverse reactions (side effects) to SSRI antidepressants (among a host of other physical and neuropsychiatric effects). None of these adverse reactions is listed as Rare. [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]
It should be emphasized that so-called adverse reactions are most likely to occur when starting or discontinuing the drug, increasing or lowering the dose or when switching from one SSRI to another. Adverse reactions are often mis-diagnosed as bipolar disorder, schizophrenia or some other "mental illness of unknown origin" when the symptoms may be entirely iatrogenic (treatment induced). Withdrawal, especially abrupt withdrawal, from any of these medications can cause severe neuropsychiatric and physical symptoms that can also cause the above signs and symptoms. It is important to withdraw extremely slowly from these drugs, often over a period of a year or more, under the supervision of a qualified and experienced specialist, if available. Withdrawal is sometimes more severe than the original symptoms or problems. |