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US spy chief Clapper defends Prism and phone surveillance - Tracy Riddle - 14-07-2013 Don't know if this has been posted before. The Complete Annotated History Of Spying (On Ourselves) by Tyler Durden [URL="http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-06-25/complete-annotated-history-spying-ourselves"]http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-06-25/complete-annotated-history-spying-ourselves [/URL]http://www.eff.org/nsa-spying/timeline [URL="http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-06-25/complete-annotated-history-spying-ourselves"] [/URL] US spy chief Clapper defends Prism and phone surveillance - Peter Lemkin - 14-07-2013 Tracy Riddle Wrote:Don't know if this has been posted before. Interesting as it is depressing..... The fact it was put up by zerohedge [from the EFF] made me to thinking....they can listen in on who is about to buy/sell/hedge/etc. what stock or metal or commodity - so the all-pervasive-ear at NSA is the ultimate tool for insider trading and can make themselves or others rich - or ruin anyone they please, economically, [as well as other ways], at times. The opportunity for blackmail or even information if properly 'placed' could ruin someone's life or loves or job or ability to survive has always been there - and I'll bet my arm has been used thousands of times more than the interdiction of any real terrorists [not just watching our own ones]. And the 'beat' goes on...along with the murder/trial/entrapment of several who've tried to report on or stop this madness. :darthvader: US spy chief Clapper defends Prism and phone surveillance - Peter Lemkin - 15-07-2013 [TABLE="width: 100%"] [TR] [TD="width: 84%"] Snowden's Revelation Paves the Way for Federal Lawsuit Against NSABy Thom Hartmann [/TD][TD="width: 16%"][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] The Electronic Frontier Foundation has filed multiple lawsuits against the NSA for spying on Americans, but until now the government has convinced courts to block them. ![]() You need to know this. Thanks to Edward Snowden, a federal court may finally hear the Electronic Frontier Foundation's case defending our Fourth Amendment rights. Long before the whistle-blower exposed top secret NSA documents, the EFF was fighting to protect our privacy. The organization has filed multiple lawsuits against the NSA for spying on Americans, but until now the government has been able to convince the courts to block the EFF cases using legal technicalities like "standing" and "state secrets." But, those technical hurdles have been cleared since our nation found out about the NSA's massive surveillance programs. On Monday, U.S. District Judge Jeffrey White rejected the government's attempt to block the lawsuit using the so-called "state secrets" defense. Judge White dismissed other parts of the lawsuit, but allowed the Fourth Amendment claims to go forward. He ordered both parties to present more evidence on the constitutionality of government surveillance, and requested a briefing from officials explaining exactly how leaked NSA documents affected national security. The ruling was not a clear win for the Electronic Frontier Foundation, but it removed one of the huge barriers the organization faced in its legal challenge. Cindy Cohen, the EFF's legal director, said, "That is huge. That was the centerpiece of the government's defense." When Edward Snowden revealed that Americans were, in fact, being spied on, the EFF and other privacy organizations cleared the first major hurdle, as they can now prove they have a right to challenge government surveillance in court. And, this recent ruling removed the NSA's second line of defense to a legal challenge. The only barrier now to a constitutional challenge is so-called "sovereign immunity" - which means these organizations can't sue the government unless the government allows them to do so. It is still a major hurdle, but the EFF isn't giving up without a fight. Stay tuned. US spy chief Clapper defends Prism and phone surveillance - Jim Hackett II - 15-07-2013 EFF hurrah! They've been there before.... US spy chief Clapper defends Prism and phone surveillance - Peter Lemkin - 15-07-2013 Jim Hackett II Wrote:EFF hurrah! To be honest, I think in the current 'climate' it doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell....but it may wake some people up, IF it gets any coverage and is not crushed before it gets going [as has been done effectively each time before]! The Judiciary is like that under the Reich, IMHO [with a few exceptions at lower levels, usually]...the Judge knows and believes the Government MUST prevail...never mind the law...let alone justice. Power must be protected....and the more powerful, the more the protection. Any notion of equality, checks and balances, no one and no entity above the law, all equal under the law, etc. are all gone...long, long gone. Its power and money v. those that ain't got any. US spy chief Clapper defends Prism and phone surveillance - Jim Hackett II - 15-07-2013 I was applauding somebody suing as opposed to any less substantial reaction. EFF and ACLU might be able to raise a "stink'. Most folks just yawn. US spy chief Clapper defends Prism and phone surveillance - Peter Lemkin - 19-07-2013 Jimmy Carter Supports Snowden; Admits to Press: "America Has No Functioning Democracy" July 18, 2013 Found this in one of Germany's biggest newspapers; Spiegel. Of course we won't hear about Carter's comments in any American Press. To say "America has no functioning Democracy," is quite the statement by a former President. A direct link to that article, using google translate, can be found here. Ex-President Carter: "The invasion of privacy has gone too far" The Obama administration tried to placate Europe's anger over spying programs. Not as ex-President Jimmy Carter: The Democrat attacked the U.S. intelligence sharp. The disclosure by whistleblowers Snowden was "useful." Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter was in the wake of the NSA Spähskandals criticized the American political system. "America has no functioning democracy," Carter said Tuesday at a meeting of the "Atlantic Bridge" in Atlanta. Previously, the Democrat had been very critical of the practices of U.S. intelligence. "I think the invasion of privacy has gone too far," Carter told CNN. "And I think that is why the secrecy was excessive."Overlooking the NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden said Carter, whose revelations were long "likely to be useful because they inform the public." Carter has repeatedly warned that the United States sharply declined due to excessive restriction of civil rights, their moral authority. Last year he wrote in an article in the "New York Times", new U.S. laws "never before seen breach our privacy by the government" allowed the. Carter was the 39th President of the United States, who ruled from 1977 until 1981. During his tenure, he tried to align U.S. foreign policy that is more about human rights after his retirement from active politics for his humanitarian work, he received the 2002 Nobel Peace Prize . In Atlanta, he also expressed his overall pessimistic about the global situation. There is currently no reason for him to be optimistic, Carter said, referring to the situation in Egypt, which had fallen into a military dictatorship. He also lamented the growing political divide in the United States, the excessive influence of money in U.S. election campaigns and the confusing American election rules. The ex-president whose "Carter Center" operates worldwide including election monitoring, announced skeptical whether the United States, the standard that applies when reviewing the Center of elections might be fulfilled. As a bright spot, however, Carter called the triumph of modern technology that would have caused some of the countries of the Arab Spring of democratic progress. Exactly these developments but are endangered by the NSA Spähskandal as major U.S. Internet platforms such as Google or Facebook lose credibility worldwide. US spy chief Clapper defends Prism and phone surveillance - Magda Hassan - 20-07-2013 We wont even mention the irony of the US not extraditing Louis Posada to Venezuela for real crimes where he is to stand trial for terrorism charges and murder and bombing of a Cubana air plane. Nor that the US protects and refuses extradition of the former President of Bolivia Gonzalo Sánchez de Lozada on charges of genocide. Quote: US spy chief Clapper defends Prism and phone surveillance - Magda Hassan - 22-07-2013 Germany intelligence cooperated with NSA as Merkel denied knowledge reportGet short URLPublished time: July 21, 2013 10:56 Edited time: July 22, 2013 08:48 A man wears a mask of U.S. President Barack Obama during a protest in support of former U.S. spy agency contractor Edward Snowden in front of Brandenburg Gate in Berlin, July 4, 2013.(Reuters / Thomas Peter) Germany's foreign intelligence service, the BND, along with the domestic intelligence agency the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution (BfV), used American National Security Agency's (NSA) XKeyScore program, according to Spiegel which claims to have seen the US intelligence service's secret documents.Der Spiegel magazine has revealed German intelligence operated one of NSA's spying programs. Chancellor Angela Merkel had denied any previous knowledge of NSA's tactics, adding that she first learned about them through the media. The BfV office had the XKeyScore program, which was installed to "expand their ability to support NSA as we jointly prosecute CT (counterterrorism) targets." And the BND office was tasked with showing the BfV how to operate the program, the secret documents said. An internal NSA presentation from 2008 revealed that XKeyScore is able to expose any terms a person under surveillance has typed into a search engine and receive a "full intake" of all unfiltered data over a period of several days, including content of communications. The program uses metadata information about data connections to access the targeted information. The documents also disclosed that up to 500 million German data connections were accessed monthly by the NSA. The majority of the connections were collected through the XKeyScore program. An aerial view of the construction site of the new Federal Intelligence Service (BND) headquarters in Chausseestrasse in the district of Mitte in Berlin.(Reuters / Robert Grahn) Documents also reveal cooperation between the NSA and Germany recently strengthened, referencing BND head Gerhard Schindler's "eagerness and desire". "The BND has been working to influence the German government to relax interpretation of the privacy laws to provide greater opportunities of intelligence sharing," Spiegel quotes the NSA as saying in January. And in 2012 Germany showed a "willingness to take risks and to pursue new opportunities for cooperation with the US." The document further stated that BND was NSA's "most prolific partner" in information gathering in Afghanistan. The magazine reports that the relationship between the two is close "on a personal level" and at the end of April, just before Edward Snowden's first revelations about NSA spying programs, a 12-member high-level BND delegation was invited to the NSA to meet specialists on the subject of "data acquisition." The BND, BfV and the NSA have refused to comment about their connection. In the meantime, Chancellor Merkel spoke out strongly in favor of an international agreement to protect electronic data. "We should be able, in the 21st century, to sign global agreements," Merkel told the weekly Welt am Sonntag in an interview published on Sunday. "If digital communication raises new questions worldwide, then we should take up the challenge. Germany is working for that." Angela Merkel is facing re-election on September 22 and has received pressure from critics to admit what she knew about the US online surveillance. German Chancellor Angela Merkel.(AFP Photo / Johannes Eisele) It emerged recently that Germany happens to be the most-snooped-on EU country by the American National Security Agency (NSA). The NSA's real-time online surveillance PRISM program allows US intelligence agencies to intercept virtually any communications over the internet, phone calls and makes possible direct access to files stored on the servers of major internet companies. In early July, US fugitive Edward Snowden accused Germany and the US of partnering in spy intelligence operations, revealing that cooperation between the countries is closer than German indignation would indicate. Chancellor Merkel declared that she learnt about the US surveillance programs, such as the NSA's PRISM spy program, "through the current reporting" in the media. Yet, Angela Merkel in interview to Die Zeit weekly stressed that "America has been, and is, our most loyal ally over the decades," but pointed out that Washington should clear up the situation with the US allegedly bugging the embassies of European countries and EU facilities, noting that "the Cold War is over." The German government subsequently summoned US Ambassador Philip Murphy to Berlin to explain the incendiary reports. http://rt.com/news/germany-nsa-usa-xkeyscore-378/ US spy chief Clapper defends Prism and phone surveillance - Jan Klimkowski - 22-07-2013 Quote:"We should be able, in the 21st century, to sign global agreements," Merkel told the weekly Welt am Sonntag in an interview published on Sunday. "If digital communication raises new questions worldwide, then we should take up the challenge. Germany is working for that." Fixed the quote: "We should be able, in the 21st century, to sign global agreements enabling us to spy on the common Volk everywhere," Merkel told the weekly Welt am Sonntag in an interview published on Sunday. "If digital communication raises new snooping opportunities worldwide, then we should take up the challenge. Germany is working for that." |