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MH 370: Missing Malaysian Airliner - Steve Franklin - 08-04-2014 Peter Lemkin Wrote:I've not vetted this 'theory'....just putting it out there for your enlightenment and amusement....if someone can even imagine such a complex scenario, imagine what scenario was really undertaken!..... Stranger things have happened and we have proof of!..... From the Maskargo page (http://www.maskargo.com/fleet/aircraft/boeing-777-200) Quote:Areas of Destinations How did they get this thing from Taliban territory to Malaysia again? And why not just put it on a ship and sail it up the South China Sea? One can only imagine how many containers arrive in China every day. MH 370: Missing Malaysian Airliner - Peter Lemkin - 09-04-2014 Quote:In the United States, the "Safe Aviation Flight Enhancement (SAFE) Act of 2003" was introduced on June 26, 2003 by Congressman David Price (NC) and Congressman John Duncan (Tennessee) as a bipartisan effort to ensure investigators have access to information immediately following commercial accidents.[27] On July 19, 2005, a revised SAFE Act was introduced and referred to the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure of the U.S. House of Representatives. The bill was referred to the House Subcommittee on Aviation during the 108th, 109th, and 110th congresses.[28][29][30] On March 12, 2014 in response to the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, Congressman David Price re-introduced the concept in the House of Representatives.[31] The SAFE Act calls for implementing the NTSB 1999 recommendations. Under the NTSB's recommendations, operators would be required to install two sets of combination Cockpit Voice and Data Recorder (CVDR) systems (or "Black Boxes"). The SAFE Act calls for making the second CVDR set "deployable or ejectable". The "deployable" recorder combines the cockpit voice/flight data recorders and an emergency locator transmitter (ELT) in a single unit. The "deployable" unit would depart the aircraft milliseconds before impact, activated by sensors. The unit is designed to "eject" and "fly" away from the crash site, to survive the terminal velocity of fall, to float on water indefinitely, and would be equipped with satellite technology for immediate location of crash impact site. The "deployable" CVDR technology has been used by the U.S. Navy since 1993.[32] The recommendations would involve a massive retrofit program. However, government funding would negate cost objections from manufacturers and airlines. Operators would get both sets of recorders for free: they would not have to pay for the one set they are currently required by law to carry. The cost of the second "deployable/ejectable CVDR" (or "Black Box") was estimated at $30 million for installation in 500 new aircraft (about $60,000 per new commercial plane). The SAFE ACT legislation failed to pass in 2003 (H.R. 2632) or in 2005 (H.R. 3336) or in 2007 (H.R. 4336). VERY strange that this legislation, which anyone can see was long needed and cheap besides FAILED three times and has not been attempted to vote on since 2007....someone 'high up' IMHO doesn't want the capacity for REALLY knowing what has happened to crashed airplanes - which so conveniently can get rid of certain persons or cargo or create false-flag or other black operations. MH 370: Missing Malaysian Airliner - Peter Lemkin - 09-04-2014 Flight MH370: insurers make first pay out on missing Malaysia Airlines planeFamilies of passengers on the Boeing 777 have received hardship payments and the airline has been paid for the plane A woman writes on the message board in support of the passengers and family members of the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370, at a shopping mall in Bangsar near Kuala Lumpur Photo: REUTERS![]() By Harry Wilson, Banking Editor 9:42PM GMT 23 Mar 2014 Malaysia Airlines has already been handed $110 million (£67 million) by insurers over the loss of its missing Boeing 777 on flight MH370 that is the subject of an international search after disappearing more than two weeks ago. Allianz Global Corporate & Specialty has paid the money into an escrow account and also agreed to make hardships payments to the families of the missing airliner's passengers, to cover their costs while the hunt for the plane continues. The payment was made in accordance with standard air travel industry policy which says that if a plane has been missing for more than two days then it is assumed it has been destroyed. The policy was originally taken out in Malaysia but, as is common practice in the industry, it was reinsured with a group of large international financial groups lead by Allianz. Depending on the outcome of the search and rescue operation for MH370, which is now thought to havecrashed in the Indian Ocean more than 1,000 miles off the west coast of Australia, the insurers could pay out tens of millions of pounds more to bereaved families of the 239 people on board. International rules stipulate a minimum payment per passenger of £105,000. If terrorism or negligence is found to have played a role it could alter the size and liability of the payouts and insurers are watching closely the hunt for the missing jet. The Boeing 777 went missing in the early hours of the morning of March 8 on a flight between Kuala Lumpur and Beijing. An investigation into the loss have looked at potential terrorism and hijacking, as well as the possibility the plane's pilots could have been a deliberate attempt to reroute the aircraft for unknown reasons. If this were found to be the case, it could have a bearing on the ultimate liability of the insures, though a source close to the underwriters said it was "too early" to speculate on the fate of the plane. MH 370: Missing Malaysian Airliner - Albert Doyle - 09-04-2014 If these pinger signals are real it narrows it down and they should be on it soon. That would wipe a lot of northern route material off the screen. MH 370: Missing Malaysian Airliner - Peter Lemkin - 09-04-2014 Albert Doyle Wrote:If these pinger signals are real it narrows it down and they should be on it soon. That would wipe a lot of northern route material off the screen. Maybe - unless two or one or three pingers and/or flight data recorders were 'salted' along the S. Route. It is nothing short of amazing [given the information made public] that anyone found the signals so quickly. I'll wait and see.....color me skeptical. Even IF they belong to the mystery aircraft [and as said I remain skeptical] anyone who would have gone to the trouble they did would also have made sure the flight data recorders contained NO information - which is not very hard to do. Salted FDRs could, of course, contain salted [fake] flight data. I think this whole thing is far from over. MH 370: Missing Malaysian Airliner - Peter Lemkin - 10-04-2014 DK-Series Underwater Locator Beacons | Radiant Power Corp "Acoustic Output, Initial: 1060 dynes/cm2rms pressure at 1 meter (160.5 dB) Acoustic Output, After 30 days: 700 dynes/cm2rms pressure at 1 meter (157.0 dB)" Expected battery life ~ 30-40 days depending on temperature and pressure. Days in use ~ 33 : hock::
MH 370: Missing Malaysian Airliner - Albert Doyle - 10-04-2014 Steve Franklin Wrote:Which "analysis" has been debunked by Duncan Steel: http://www.duncansteel.com/archives/549 Steve, this question was put to Duncan: Thermal satellite is fairly easy technology. If you look at weather satellites they give high-contrast color separation to cloud temperatures that vary by only 125 degrees or so. The heat exhaust off the 777 engine would be hundreds of degrees against a -50 degree background and should be easily within existing technology. Especially when the aircraft was allegedly flying well out of normal flyways in the middle of nowhere. Especially with a 7 hour lead time post-9/11. To which he replied: " Sorry, but you show there a total lack of understanding of the physics involved. According your comment a satellite sensor working in the thermal IR (say around 5 micron wavelength) should be able to detect the heat from a lighted cigarette from orbit. Before one can say anything useful one must understand far more about physics than you do. " Duncan sounds like a bit of a phony to me since jet exhaust is 1600f degrees. His cigarette answer is silly and makes me think he's a bit of a pompous bluffer. If a weather satellite can put extreme color coding contrast on cloud temperature differences of only a few tens of degrees then heat signature detection satellites should be able to identify the 1600 degree exhaust of a jet engine against a -50 degree backdrop. I think our snobby expert just doesn't want to admit he's clueless. MH 370: Missing Malaysian Airliner - David Guyatt - 10-04-2014 Peter Lemkin Wrote:Flight MH370: insurers make first pay out on missing Malaysia Airlines plane Insurance companies always have access to privileged inside information. This tells me that they know the plane and passengers are gone and probably also know why. The rest of the continuing news about the aircraft is deflection. And has been for weeks past imo. MH 370: Missing Malaysian Airliner - Peter Lemkin - 10-04-2014 They are now saying that the signals are at a depth of 15.000 ft - the deepest part of the Indian Ocean - what are the chances of that - as most of the Indian Ocean is less than half that depth. Whatever this is, whatever is finally found and where - this was a professional job, IMHO. MH 370: Missing Malaysian Airliner - Peter Lemkin - 11-04-2014 Within the last hour two reports that seem both 'confident' and 'lacking confidence' - go figure?! ::headbang:: Quote:[TABLE="width: 100%"] Quote:[TABLE="width: 100%"] |