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Louisiana deep oil drilling disaster - Jan Klimkowski - 12-07-2010 So, BP may be "taken over". Looks like a variant on the Bhopal and Dalkon Shield scams all over again: Quote:Shares in BP rose more than 5% in early trading today as the oil firm said the latest attempt to cap the gushing well in the Gulf of Mexico is proceeding "as planned". http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/jul/12/bp-shares-rise-deepwater-repairs Louisiana deep oil drilling disaster - Jan Klimkowski - 12-07-2010 Here are the key corporate precedents: Austin Kelley Wrote:Closing BP's Escape Routes http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=23037&highlight=dalkon#post23037 Louisiana deep oil drilling disaster - Jan Klimkowski - 12-07-2010 :bebored: Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Austin - good article, thanks for posting. http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=23037&postcount=3 Louisiana deep oil drilling disaster - Magda Hassan - 13-07-2010 Video at this link: http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-461896 A dire report circulating in the Kremlin today that was prepared for Prime Minister Putin by Anatoly Sagalevich of Russia's Shirshov Institute of Oceanology warns that the Gulf of Mexico sea floor has been fractured “beyond all repair” and our World should begin preparing for an ecological disaster “beyond comprehension” unless “extraordinary measures” are undertaken to stop the massive flow of oil into our Planet’s eleventh largest body of water. Most important to note about Sagalevich’s warning is that he and his fellow scientists from theRussian Academy of Sciences are the only human beings to have actually been to the Gulf of Mexico oil leak site after their being called to the disaster scene by British oil giant BP shortly after the April 22nd sinking of the Deepwater Horizon oil platform. BP’s calling on Sagalevich after this catastrophe began is due to his being the holder of the World’s record for the deepest freshwater dive and his expertise with Russia’s two Deep Submergence Vehicles MIR 1 and MIR 2 [photo below] which are able to take their crews to the depth of 6,000 meters (19,685 ft). According to Sagalevich’s report, the oil leaking into the Gulf of Mexico is not just coming from the 22 inch well bore site being shown on American television, but from at least 18 other sites on the “fractured seafloor” with the largest being nearly 11 kilometers (7 miles) from where the Deepwater Horizon sank and is spewing into these precious waters an estimated 2 million gallons of oil a day. Interesting to note in this report is Sagalevich stating that he and the other Russian scientists were required by the United States to sign documents forbidding them to report their findings to either the American public or media, and which they had to do in order to legally operate in US territorial waters. However, Sagalevich says that he and the other scientists gave nearly hourly updates to both US government and BP officials about what they were seeing on the sea floor, including the US Senator from their State of Florida Bill Nelson who after one such briefing stated to the MSNBC news service“Andrea we’re looking into something new right now, that there’s reports of oil that’s seeping up from the seabed… which would indicate, if that’s true, that the well casing itself is actually pierced… underneath the seabed. So, you know, the problems could be just enormous with what we’re facing.” Though not directly stated in Sagalevich’s report, Russian scientists findings on the true state of the Gulf of Mexico oil disaster are beyond doubt being leaked to his longtime friend, and former US President George W. Bush’s top energy advisor Matthew Simmons, who US media reports state has openly said: “Matthew Simmons is sticking by his story that there's another giant leak in the Gulf of Mexico blowing massive amounts of oil into the Gulf of Mexico. On CNBC's Fast Money, he says he'd be surprised if BP lasted this summer, saying this is disaster is entirely BP's fault.” As a prominent oil-industry insider, and one of the World's leading experts on peak oil, Simmons further warns that the US has only two options, “let the well run dry (taking 30 years, and probably ruining the Atlantic ocean) or nuking the well.” Obama’s government, on the other hand, has stated that a nuclear option for ending this catastrophe is not being discussed, but which brings him into conflict with both Russian and American experts advocating such an extreme measure before all is lost, and as we can read as reported by Britain’s Telegraph News Service: “The former Soviet Union (U.S.S.R.) used nuclear weapons on five separate occasions between 1966 and 1981 to successfully cap blown-out gas and oil surface wells (there was also one attempt that failed), which have been documented in a U.S. Department of Energy report on the U.S.S.R.'s peaceful uses of nuclear explosions. Russia is now urging the United States to consider doing the same. Komsomoloskaya Pravda, the best-selling Russian daily newspaper, asserts that although based on Soviet experience there's a one-in-five chance a nuke might not seal the well, it's "a gamble the Americans could certainly risk." Reportedly, the U.S.S.R. developed special nuclear devices explicitly for closing blown-out gas wells, theorizing that the blast from a nuclear detonation would plug any hole within 25 to 50 meters, depending on the device's power. Much as I had idly imagined, massive explosions can be employed to collapse a runaway well on itself, thus plugging, or at least substantially stanching, the flow of oil. “Seafloor nuclear detonation is starting to sound surprisingly feasible and appropriate," University of Texas at Austin mechanical engineer Michael E. Webber is quoted observing, while Columbia University visiting scholar on nuclear policy and former naval officer Christopher Brownfield wrote in the Daily Beast: "We should have demolished this well with explosives over a month ago. And yet we watch in excruciating suspense while BP fumbles through plan after plan to recover its oil and cover its asset.” As to the reason for Obama’s government refusing to consider nuking this oil well, Sagalevich states in this report that the American’s “main concern” is not the environmental catastrophe this disaster is causing, but rather what the impact of using a nuclear weapon to stop this leak would have on the continued production of oil from the Gulf of Mexico, and which in an energy starved World’s remains the Planet’s only oil producing region able to increase its production. On top of the environmental catastrophe currently unfolding in the Gulf of Mexico the situation may about to get even worse as new reports from the US are confirming the grim predictions of Russian scientists regarding the oil dispersement poisons being used by BP which are being swept up into the clouds and falling as toxic rain destroying every living plant it touches, and as we had detailed in our May 23rd report titled “Toxic Oil Spill Rains Warned Could Destroy North America” To what the final outcome of this catastrophe will be it is not in our knowing other than to state the obvious that the choice facing the American’s today is to either stop this disaster now, by any means, or pay dearly for it later. After all, is cheap petrol really worth the cost of destroying our own Earth? BP surely thinks so, let’s keep hoping Obama doesn’t. Louisiana deep oil drilling disaster - Peter Lemkin - 13-07-2010 Gulp!....looking bad...but...hey, relax..BP just announced moments ago all is 'well' and there is NO leakage any more from their errant well.....if you believe that, can I sell you some snake oil :listen:? How many attempts have there been over how long?!/........:marchmellow: That is the second report I've read about possible current and future fractures in the sea floor of the Gulf....how to destroy your home Planet in one greedy lesson...brought to you by the following corporate sponsors.... :driver: ....update...just went to the live webcams of the spill and still see oil gushing out...oh, well, must be my glasses.... tickyman:
Louisiana deep oil drilling disaster - Peter Lemkin - 13-07-2010 Funny how so many Deep Political things are 'connected'..I'm sure just coincidence...read on... (CNN) -- A group of U.S. lawmakers have called for an investigation into whether BP may have played a role in lobbying for the release of Abdel Basset al Megrahi to secure an oil contract with the Libyan government. :musicus: Megrahi, now 58, was convicted and sentenced to life in prison for the 1988 bombing of Pan Am Flight 103 which killed 270 people, including 189 Americans. [COLOR="Blue"]{my comment....although he is likely just a patsy or bit player in this matter, at best...} [/COLOR] He was released from a Scottish prison on compassionate grounds in August after he was diagnosed with prostate cancer. "Reports have surfaced indicating that a 2007 oil agreement may have influenced the U.K. and Scottish governments' positions concerning Mr. Megrahi's release in 2009," wrote Democratic Senator Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey in a letter to the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations on Monday. "The families of the victims of Pan Am flight 103 deserve to know whether justice took a back seat to commercial interests in this case," Lauternberg said. Mark Salt, a spokesman for BP in Houston, Texas, declined to discuss the Senators' probe. "We're not going to comment on speculation," he said. BP, which plans to begin offshore drilling in Libya in the coming months, touted the 2007 oil agreement as "the single biggest exploration financial commitment an international energy company has ever made to Libya," according to the company's website. The troubled oil giant stands to earn as much as $20 billion from the deal, according to Lautenberg. Megrahi, who only served eight years of his life sentence for the bombing, was released by a Scottish court on "compassionate" grounds, citing a doctor's opinion at the time that he was dying from prostate cancer and only had three months to live. In a letter to the British government last week, Lauternberg was joined by Democratic Senators Kristen Gillibrand and Charles Schumer of New York, and Bob Menendez of New Jersey in calling the validity of such a prognosis into question. "Mr. Al Megrahi is still alive and reportedly living in luxury," the letter said. "The doctor responsible for the key medical opinion has told the media that not only could Mr. Al Megrahi live another 10 years, but that the Libyan government had commissioned the doctor to make his assessment." In response, the British Embassy in Washington posted a letter on its website from the British ambassador to Gillibrand on defending Megrahi's release. "The decision to grant Mr. Megrahi's compassionate release was made on the basis of advice from the Director of Health at the Scottish Prison Service, who drew on the advice of a number of medical experts," the ambassador said. Brian Flynn, who lost his brother in the attack and fought vigorously to deny Megrahi's freedom, said he isn't surprised that Megrahi is still alive and believes BP was directly responsible for his release. "You can't allow the process of justice to be corrupted by the cynical mercantilism of one company," Flynn said. Louisiana deep oil drilling disaster - Ed Jewett - 14-07-2010 Dire Realities of the Methane Predictament in the Gulf of Mexico by Dr. Tom Termotto / July 14th, 2010 There has been a spate of articles recently throughout the corporate and alternative media depicting the methane gas predicament associated with the BP Gulf Oil Spill. Many of these perspectives portray an alarming state of affairs concerning extremely high concentrations of methane that have accumulated in numerous areas in the Gulf of Mexico. The two primary issues of concern are the methane effects in the aquatic environment and the methane gas accumulations in the atmosphere above the Gulf and within contiguous land masses. In regard to the latter, the weather patterns will reign supreme. Once methane rises above the surface of the Gulf, where it goes, how it accumulates and what its toxic effects on life will be, is going to be dictated to a great extent by the weather. ![]() “How’s the weather down there?” When we ask each other this question, aren’t we really asking, ”How are the elements (elementals) treating us?” Well, this question will never be more important to the residents rimming the Gulf of Mexico as we gear up for a long, hot, deep south summer with its likely share of hurricanes, tropical storms and depressions, which, by the way, can be a good or bad thing for “natural” oil spill remediation depending on numerous factors and circumstances. Back to the methane issue and the volumes of gas that are currently pouring into the Gulf by way of the gushing well, as well as the many leaks and seeps, cracks and fissures, which have provided entry into the water from a growing area around the wellhead. Some who are privy to authoritative info have pointed directly to a large gash, as well as other smaller gashes, which have opened up in the sea floor throughout the area since the wellhead first blew. The current flow of oil out of the riser is approximately 35% of the total volume of outflow. Much of the remaining composition is methane, some of which may be burned off by the flames which appear on a screenshot from the live feed. ![]() Some of the leaks and seeps that have appeared since April 20th are the result of the venting of the enormous pressures of this very deep high compression well. Various experts in the Oil & Gas Exploration and Drilling Industry have speculated this pressure to be as high as 100,000 psi which would explain much of the erratic behavior of this unprecedented gusher. It has functioned as a humongous sandblaster of sorts, which will therefore make it difficult to even keep a cap on it for any extended period of time. When you drill through the earth’s crust and into the mantle at depths of 20,000 to 35,000 feet, the Russians have consistently encountered pressures far exceeding those that exist in more shallow prospects. They also understand that such pressures demand a proportionate upgrade in technology and equipment (which did not happen with the Deepwater Horizon, if catastrophic blowouts are to be avoided. The more serious issue here is that the surrounding sea floor is being profoundly undermined, hence the foundation of the wellhead is progressively weakening thereby creating new exit points for methane gas. Many seasoned observers have noted that there has been a piercing of the wellhead, itself. This predicament will necessitate a unique and more thorough response if the outflow is to be completely stopped or if all the oil and gas is to be captured by a “containment and capture” solution. Another major source of methane gas comes from frozen hydrate crystals which exist on the sea floor in vast quantities. Due to very cold temperatures and high pressure, they stay locked in place until they are awakened from their slumber by the very conditions that now predominate in the region around the wellhead. The gushing oil may be as hot as 300 to 400 F, which greatly affects the undersea dynamics, and especially the state of these hydrates. Also, it is quite noteworthy that we have no experience with the introduction of massive volumes of dispersants at the wellhead under those extraordinary conditions. What will be the ultimate effects on methane conversion and release throughout the region in terms of ramping up an already very dynamic and volatile situation on the sea floor? More significantly, what are the unforeseen consequences to the water (perhaps aquacide) and the fragile ecosystems that abound there? There are other sources of methane, which occur under the sea floor in various types of “repositories”, that are being affected by movements of the earth, as well as by dramatic temperature fluctuations. These reservoirs are undoubtedly releasing methane gas, as are the sea floor surface beds of trapped frozen methane crystals. Almost all of the released methane gas from these sources will eventually rise to the surface of the Gulf, some of it accumulating as hovering gas bubbles which will then dissipate over time. They concentrate and disperse, come and go according to the scientific properties of methane gas behavior. ![]() Methane does have a very deleterious effect on all aerobic marine life in that it depletes oxygen very rapidly in water. This is the biggest concern, and it can have greater impact on life than the toxicity of both the oil and the dispersants combined, dangerous interactions and all. We state the obvious when we say that all aerobic organisms needs oxygen, and that such life will die very quickly when oxygen concentrations drop below critical thresholds (How long would you live holding your breath under water?!).As the methane rises through the higher layers of the Gulf of Mexico in aquatic strata where the water is warmer, this problem becomes worse due to the fact that warmer water simply holds less oxygen than cold water. This discussion is not to diminish in any way the extremely harmful toxicities associated with the myriad of chemicals and contaminants found in the dispersants (e.g. COREXIT) and petroleum derivatives. Clearly, the Gulf of Mexico has been relentlessly turned into a petrochemical cesspool of ”ginormous” proportions by this and other simultaneous gushers and leaks, which will take decades to remediate in any meaningful way. Perhaps the most significant factor on top of the Gulf, however, is the weather. Low pressure weather systems, hot and humid conditions, and stagnant air conditions characterized by little wind can exacerbate the effects of methane gas accumulations around the coastlines as well as many miles inland. The coming tropical storms and depressions, as well as the hurricanes, will provide vectors of dissemination for the aforementioned chemicals and contaminants to rain down on the many coastal communities, and beyond. In this regard, the entire state of Florida is particularly vulnerable due to obvious reasons. ![]() The upshot of this story demonstrates the need to get to know your ambient air and rainwater. This recommendation is vitally important! There are specific ways that this can be accomplished which will be covered in a future essay. In the meantime, it is wise to get to know your environment in the most intimate way, so that you may respond quickly and decisively to any situation that might arise, especially regarding methane bubbles should they migrate over coastal communities. Dr. Tom Termotto is the National Coordinator of the Gulf Oil Spill Remediation Conference (International Citizen’s Initiative). Read other articles by Dr. Tom. This article was posted on Wednesday, July 14th, 2010 at 7:59am and is filed under Environment, Mexico, Oceans/Seas, Oil, Gas, Pipelines. [url=javascript:void(0)]ShareThis[/url] Louisiana deep oil drilling disaster - Peter Lemkin - 16-07-2010 If BP is to be believed [no reason to do that, they've not been honest up to now....] the pressure in the well with the new cap is rising and is above that that would be expected if there were a leak at some other location...but...and a big but....as the pressure continues to increase, new locations of leakage [if not already present] may well break open. This monster is far from tamed, IMO. the BBC is extolling the final solution....even Obama and BP are urging waiting a while to declare this is anything close to a solution. Many petroleum engineers think this will only prove to be a very temporary bandage on a gaping wound~:joyman: http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2010/07/16/bp-gulf-oil-spill-integrity-test-failing-24-hours-test-pressure-remains-6700-psi/ Louisiana deep oil drilling disaster - Helen Reyes - 18-07-2010 Interesting the Coast Guard has been granted LEGISLATIVE AND JUDICIAL POWERS to FINE AND IMPRISON reporters. By whom, I wonder? Reading back over posts, I agree with Peter Lemkin there (probably, who knows really) isn't enough grease for my "soup effect," but... Dr. Bill Deagle is claiming the Gulf Stream is now halted. His July 16, 2010 internet radio show contained an interview with an Italian particle physicist (?) who has been observing sat data of the spill, and this person believes the oil is creating eddies in the loop current which is depriving the Gulf Stream of its main circuar current. The Italian man was careful not to make predictions not based on on observation while Deagle and his other guests speculated that the Gulf Stream has now been considerably weakened on top of a weakened condition detected in 2004, and is now halting, making an ice age in Europe inevitable in the very near term. They also discuss the collapse of the thermosphere which NASA can't really account for and the possible input of Icelandic volcanos into the general cooling they expect. Archive here: http://arc.gcnlive.com/Archives2010/jul10/Nutrimedical/ Files here: http://arc.gcnlive.com/Archives2010/jul10/Nutrimedical/0716101.mp3 http://arc.gcnlive.com/Archives2010/jul10/Nutrimedical/0716102.mp3 http://arc.gcnlive.com/Archives2010/jul10/Nutrimedical/0716103.mp3 (it's not radio at its best, but it is very interesting) Louisiana deep oil drilling disaster - Peter Lemkin - 19-07-2010 A leak has been detected at another location in the area of the well that is now 'capped'.....the only thing not yet known, is if it is 'only' methane hydrate or if it is that AND petroleum....in either case it looks as if yet another plan of BP has failed totally!.... :dancing: :itsme: :bandit: :five: :motz: In a much understated article....[they don't want the Plebs to panic....] http://www.reuters.com/article/idAFN1813113320100719 reads, in part, [COLOR="Purple"] "late on Sunday, the U.S. government released a letter to BP Chief Managing Director Bob Dudley from retired Coast Guard Admiral Thad Allen that referred to an unspecified type of seepage near the mile-deep (1.6 km-deep) well along with "undetermined anomalies at the well head.":eviltongue: "I direct you to provide me a written procedure for opening the choke valve as quickly as possible without damaging the well should hydrocarbon seepage near the well head be confirmed," Allen wrote. BP did not respond to requests for comment on Allen's letter."[/COLOR] If you want to hear the real deal....that 8 miles [aprox.] away from the BP well there is a bigger/nastier leak that has little to do with the magic show of BP and USG/Media to make us not see what is REALLY going on in the Gulf...listen to the first guest on this show!!.... - based on Matt Simmons [and others'] information. |