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John Armstrong's Harvey and Lee - Greg Burnham - 21-09-2013 Charles Drago Wrote:In his response above, Mr. Mooney exhibits the classic "no answer ever will suffice" gambit commonly employed by agents provocateur. John Armstrong's Harvey and Lee - John Mooney - 21-09-2013 Jim Hargrove Wrote:John Mooney Wrote:Jim Hargrove Wrote:Let readers see JA's interview with Pfisterer president Linda Faircloth and decide for themselves. I know, I know, all these lying witnesses... we just have to trust the FBI. Jim I listened to the video.. it was "the one you need to speak to is... the one you need to speak to is..." all down the line UNTIL we get to "and then I spoke to "John Armstrong and Palmer McBride". It's the truth. You know it and I know it. I have not misrepresented anything. John Armstrong's Harvey and Lee - John Mooney - 21-09-2013 Greg Burnham Wrote:Charles Drago Wrote:In his response above, Mr. Mooney exhibits the classic "no answer ever will suffice" gambit commonly employed by agents provocateur. I guess it will be ad hominem from here on in. Oh well. As Obiwan would say "this is not the forum for you". Shame, I like some of you. Anyway. Bye. John Armstrong's Harvey and Lee - Jim Hargrove - 23-09-2013 I first got introduced to the online con artists defending the WC and the USG in general ten to 15 years ago when I was active on the Usenet group alt.conspiracy.jfk. After watching Stone's JFK and reading a half dozen or so books on the assassination, I didn't have a whole lot to say, but nevertheless found it odd that no matter what small observations I made, there were always several posters who would come along without fail to defend the USG position in the most strident and inflexible way. Then I became interested in John Armstrong's work and some of his early speeches and articles, and before long I felt I had a whole lot to say, and it didn't take long for the online rebuttals to change dramatically. What had once been arguments about facts related to the Kennedy assassination suddenly became very personal diatribes against me. One fellow posted, again and again, personal attacks on me that must have been the equivalent of 20 or 30 typed pages. Rather than fight a battle that had nothing to do with the Kennedy assassination, I quit reading alt.conspiracy.jfk and allowed the bastards to win. I'd like to thank the DPF founders for creating a place that encourages honest research and productive debate and discourages the con artists. No doubt the new JFK Wikl will continue this tradition and soon make its mark. Jim John Armstrong's Harvey and Lee - Kenneth Kapel - 23-09-2013 Just about twenty minutes ago my copy of "Harvey & Lee" arrived about ten minutes ago. I'm thumbing throught it now, it is fascinating. My usual routine with newly purchased books is first to thumb through them and then read beginning to end. John Armstrong's Harvey and Lee - Magda Hassan - 24-09-2013 Jim Hargrove Wrote:I first got introduced to the online con artists defending the WC and the USG in general ten to 15 years ago when I was active on the Usenet group alt.conspiracy.jfk. After watching Stone's JFK and reading a half dozen or so books on the assassination, I didn't have a whole lot to say, but nevertheless found it odd that no matter what small observations I made, there were always several posters who would come along without fail to defend the USG position in the most strident and inflexible way.Thank Jim. Looking forward to getting it all up and running too! As well as the Mockingbirds and paid government shills on forums etc there also seems to be a type of American who can say no wrong about their government. I've never been able to understand that position. It must mean a whole lot of cognitive dissonance to hold that stance in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. My country right or wrong types. I don't think I have seen this sort of craven abrogation of thinking outside a game of russian roulette. Most Brits and Australians and Italians I know are only too happy to acknowledge and talk about government failings and hypocrisy. John Armstrong's Harvey and Lee - Magda Hassan - 24-09-2013 Kenneth Kapel Wrote:Just about twenty minutes ago my copy of "Harvey & Lee" arrived about ten minutes ago. I'm thumbing throught it now, it is fascinating. My usual routine with newly purchased books is first to thumb through them and then read beginning to end. Any chance of a review when you're done reading? John Armstrong's Harvey and Lee - Jim Hackett II - 24-09-2013 Gee I'm glad in not one of those ugly Americans. John Armstrong's Harvey and Lee - Magda Hassan - 24-09-2013 Jim Hackett II Wrote:Gee I'm glad in not one of those ugly Americans.I'm glad too : : I know not everyone is.
John Armstrong's Harvey and Lee - Jim Hargrove - 24-09-2013 Magda Hassan Wrote:Thank Jim. Looking forward to getting it all up and running too! The "America Firsters and Onlyers," or whatever we should call them (probably not that), always seemed like relatively dim bulbs to me; low-information voters, not terribly well educated, and so on, UNLESS THEY WERE PROFESSIONALS, whether practicing politicians or paid information shills from network news broadcasts to internet chat groups. No proof of that, just my suspicion. The sad thing is, radical conclusions such as are contained in John Armstrong's work can always use honest, constructive criticism. There are bound to be errors here and there, and correcting them will only make the remaining realities stronger. But when the disinfo campaigns are invoked, perception is obviously more important than reality, and we all suffer if we are denied an understanding of our own history. Jim |