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It's All Been a Tremendous Lark - Matthew Poe - 25-03-2013
Magda, What I don't quite understand is that on the one hand you urge Drago to reconsider and stay on, yet in the same breath write:
"I don't think you ever quite realized we don't need 'enemy agents' here to damage the forum because that is what you were doing all on your own.
To use your own words you were unwittingly doing the enemy's work in your zeal to impose your will on all here and in your attacks on
practically all."
While this reflects a great deal of general wisdom as far as the machinations of movement politics, I can't see how it specifically jibes with the sentiments that precede it re: Drago. In fact, I can't imagine a worse thing for a man to read about himself (i.e that he has been unwittingly doing the enemies' work) when he is down-- a man who I imagine has spent a good deal of his life fighting to shine light on the JFK assassination. Doesn't it strike you as kicking him when he's low?
Also, for the record, I did not accuse the moderators of a conspiracy to remove Drago, rather a failure of empathy for a comrade. Quite a difference.
It's All Been a Tremendous Lark - Magda Hassan - 25-03-2013
I don't see what you don't understand Matthew. Charles is a good person with good intentions. However, like everyone I know, including myself, he is also an imperfect person with blind spots when it comes to insights to his own behavior and actions that others can see clearly. I don't see this situation as terminal but as fluid. I believe it can be redeemed but it is all up to Charles what he chooses to do or not do.
It's All Been a Tremendous Lark - Matthew Poe - 25-03-2013
Fair enough, Magda.
It's All Been a Tremendous Lark - Peter Lemkin - 25-03-2013
David Healy Wrote:When it comes to the JFK assassination, enough is enough. There is more than enough case evidence for conspiracy, enough to choke a damn horse, yet it continues to be vacillation time. When in doubt do more needless research? You don't win a war by sitting on the sidelines convincing other researchers you can make a case, you make the damn case! If you don't want to make a case, do what Hollywood has always done, make a film about it, let the chips fall where they may!
I agree with Charles, this is war, shit or get off the pot-- JFK researchers just can't get off the damn pot! :fullofit:
CD is correct about many things [this is not a complete list]: that it is a kind of war and there are enemies of the truth; that those who have looked, read and studied even a little about the events of Dallas - and do not conclude it was a vast highlevel conspiracy - are cognitively impared or complicit; I further agree with him on details of who. what, when, how, why [to the extent these are now knowable] - with only minor difference of opinion or 'take', of minor significance. He usually posts on JFK, but when he posts on other issues I most often agree with those too. He was a great supporter of me at the EF-Swamp when I was under attack and persecuted - a help against the array of dark forces there throughout. I'm a long-time researcher and have seen ''Ãt all', including internecene disagreements and angry rhetoric, feuds and break-ups, etc.. I think CDs motives were on the up and up, but his technique was causing some problems with some people. I had PMs and emails of persons who were either avoiding the forum due to the tone it was taking on [too combattive] or were seriously distressed by it. CD is a passionate person and especially when it comes to Dallas and things surrounding and connected to Dallas. I hope in the end it all works out and CD's wealth of knowledge and best and noble intentions toward the Truth being told and put forward in this vital period leading up to the 50th will prevail...... He will always be a friend and a respected researcher, IMHO. He/she who has never gotten grumpy at another's posts who has been in this as long as I would be self-delusional. Human, human, all too human are we all.
It's All Been a Tremendous Lark - Magda Hassan - 25-03-2013
Well said Peter!
It's All Been a Tremendous Lark - Jim Hackett II - 25-03-2013
First I would endorse the posts above by Peter and Magda. Mr. Drago IS an important and informative member.
We are all human and have our own flaws, the social lubricant is tolerance. If for no other reason than to set DPF apart from other less meaningful (to me) forums as well as to make possible interaction on a level other than "I know You are but what am I?" crap.
I strongly agree with Charles Drago that this is war, and should have been war in 1979 when the US Justice Department under the neocons (RReagan) refused to "investigate further" as the HSCA wrote.
This morning I am being bombarded by another discovery channel/military channel bunch of crap about the US Secret Service. No complicity and JFK removed his own protection by the US SS. Same Ol' xxxx. I changed to the weather and scenes of a half a foot of snow at least it ain't lies.
I conclude we are not winning the war on the Goebbels Propacrap front.
The "alternative" history folks like us need the participants like Charles Drago - given we all scr** up at some point. We like America have no members we can afford to waste.
In that DPF is clearly under attack, we don't need to self divide into factions, we need to close ranks and prepare for those attackers to be repelled.
Come back to the 5 and dime CD.
It's All Been a Tremendous Lark - Cliff Logan - 25-03-2013
David Healy Wrote:When it comes to the JFK assassination, enough is enough. There is more than enough case evidence for conspiracy, enough to choke a damn horse, yet it continues to be vacillation time. When in doubt do more needless research? You don't win a war by sitting on the sidelines convincing other researchers you can make a case, you make the damn case! If you don't want to make a case, do what Hollywood has always done, make a film about it, let the chips fall where they may!
I agree with Charles, this is war, shit or get off the pot-- JFK researchers just can't get off the damn pot! :fullofit:
Well stated David; 100% in agreement.
It's All Been a Tremendous Lark - Albert Doyle - 25-03-2013
People should be honest about what the truth forces.
To be otherwise is to fail the very principles and standards Deep Politics requires.
In my experiences on the internet persons genuinely defending the truth never quit.
It's All Been a Tremendous Lark - Dawn Meredith - 25-03-2013
Lauren Johnson Wrote:other than assuming a role as Op-Ed contributor who sends in his copy and goes about his life. When Magda said he would drive everyone away, she was correct. He simply could not tolerate comments for any number of reasons. He wanted to cull out the membership and purify the stock, no matter what the cost.
I hope he starts his own Forum and I would look forward to it. He would be wise, in my view, to cut off comments, as is often the case amongst other bloggers.
I consider your sudden intrusion into the JFK part of this forum rather suspect, If you know as little about the assassination of JFK as you do 9-11 I would kindly ask you to go back to your studies and let us sort out our internal affairs.
And follow your own advice: start your own forum.
Dawn
It's All Been a Tremendous Lark - Dawn Meredith - 25-03-2013
Magda Hassan Wrote:Well said Peter!Agreed. Well said and thank you . This is the second time in this thread that you have expressed my own views perfectly.
Dawn