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PLane carrying German passenger crashes in France - R.K. Locke - 26-03-2015
Committing suicide in this way strikes me as highly, highly unlikely, as it also did in the case of MH370. Clearly it is not impossible, but it so completely out of the ordinary that I am disinclined to believe it without a great deal more evidence being presented.
PLane carrying German passenger crashes in France - Drew Phipps - 26-03-2015
Why was Yvonne Selke travelling to Duseldorf? Business or pleasure?
PLane carrying German passenger crashes in France - Peter Lemkin - 26-03-2015
Drew Phipps Wrote:Why was Yvonne Selke travelling to Duseldorf? Business or pleasure?
I can find no information on that, but she was travelling with another female with the same last name - don't know how related.
PLane carrying German passenger crashes in France - Albert Doyle - 27-03-2015
The total silence of the co-pilot as he crashed the plane is how a hypnotically-programmed person would behave.
PLane carrying German passenger crashes in France - Magda Hassan - 27-03-2015
Maybe but also consistent with some one who is set on their suicide/murder.
PLane carrying German passenger crashes in France - Peter Lemkin - 27-03-2015
"Police investigating the Germanwings crash said tonight they had made a 'significant discovery' at the home of pilot Andreas Lubitz, who deliberately ploughed the Airbus A320 into the French Alps. Officers refused to reveal details of the potential breakthrough but said it was not a suicide note. Speaking outside the flat on the outskirts of Dusseldorf, police said they had 'found something' that would now be taken for tests, adding it may be a 'clue' as to what happened to the doomed jet."
The rapid release of 'information' on this case is unusual. It seems to be both pressure from the airlines to calm all potential passengers and due to differences in French law when criminal action as the cause of an accident occurs. There was also a huge unauthorized leak to the NYT by someone within the investigation who shouldn't have done so - it was criminal act, if not one that will have great consequence, IMO. Now, the Germans are also breaking with usual protocol and giving big hints....all very strange...not sinister, but strange. I would also note that more 'grief' is being expressed in the media IMO over the loss of life for mostly Europeans than was shown when planes full of mostly Asians were lost.
Oh, yes, one more unconfirmed, but easy to find rumor - he might have just broken up with his boyfriend! [with which he sometimes lived and was seen being escorted away by the Police] .....the early release [by police and officials] of information/rumors/speculation is very strange.
Yet one more bit 'o speculation - that he was a body-building type who took lots of anabolic steroids, and they have been known to sometimes lead to psychological breaks.
Edit: 'boyfriend' has changed to 'girlfriend'...can't explain.
PLane carrying German passenger crashes in France - Peter Lemkin - 27-03-2015
OK, I find this very hard to believe/unlikely [especially given its obvious anti-Muslim diatribe] - but just to keep everyone informed of the latest gossip/disinformation afoot - sit down and fasten your seatbelt for this one...
Quote:A German news website claims Andreas Lubitz was a Muslim convert.
Speisa.com reported:
According to Michael Mannheimer, a writer for German PI-News, Germany now has its own 9/11, thanks to the convert to Islam, Andreas Lubitz.
Translation from German:
All evidence indicates that the copilot of Airbus machine in his six-months break during his training as a pilot in Germanwings, converted to Islam and subsequently either by the order of "radical", ie. devout Muslims , or received the order from the book of terror, the Quran, on his own accord decided to carry out this mass murder. As a radical mosque in Bremen is in the center of the investigation, in which the convert was staying often, it can be assumed that he as Mohammed Atta, in the attack against New York received his instructions directly from the immediate vicinity of the mosque.
Converts are the most important weapon of Islam. Because their resume do not suggests that they often are particularly violent Muslims. Thus Germany now has its own 9/11, but in a reduced form. And so it is clear that Islam is a terrorist organization that are in accordance with §129a of the Criminal Code to prohibit it and to investigate its followers. But nothing will happen. One can bet that the apologists (media, politics, "Islamic Scholars") will agree to assign this an act of a "mentally unstable" man, and you can bet that now, once again the mantra of how supposedly peaceful Islam is will continue. And worse still, the attacks by the left against those who have always warned against Islam, will be angrier and merciless.
For now the German Islam supporters like never before have their backs against the wall.
Michael Mannheimer, 26.3.2015
Apparently from the comments at German PI Andreas Lubitz was Muslim convert from his Facebook page.
PLane carrying German passenger crashes in France - Dawn Meredith - 27-03-2015
Oh God, here we go again...just when I was prepared to believe that the guy was a mental case at best or just evil at worst, based on all the information released so far, about the door being locked, and the emergency systems being overridden on purpose.
PLane carrying German passenger crashes in France - Peter Lemkin - 27-03-2015
Peter Lemkin Wrote:OK, I find this very hard to believe/unlikely [especially given its obvious anti-Muslim diatribe] - but just to keep everyone informed of the latest gossip/disinformation afoot - sit down and fasten your seatbelt for this one...
Quote:A German news website claims Andreas Lubitz was a Muslim convert.
Speisa.com reported:
According to Michael Mannheimer, a writer for German PI-News, Germany now has its own 9/11, thanks to the convert to Islam, Andreas Lubitz.
Translation from German:
All evidence indicates that the copilot of Airbus machine in his six-months break during his training as a pilot in Germanwings, converted to Islam and subsequently either by the order of "radical", ie. devout Muslims , or received the order from the book of terror, the Quran, on his own accord decided to carry out this mass murder. As a radical mosque in Bremen is in the center of the investigation, in which the convert was staying often, it can be assumed that he as Mohammed Atta, in the attack against New York received his instructions directly from the immediate vicinity of the mosque.
Converts are the most important weapon of Islam. Because their resume do not suggests that they often are particularly violent Muslims. Thus Germany now has its own 9/11, but in a reduced form. And so it is clear that Islam is a terrorist organization that are in accordance with §129a of the Criminal Code to prohibit it and to investigate its followers. But nothing will happen. One can bet that the apologists (media, politics, "Islamic Scholars") will agree to assign this an act of a "mentally unstable" man, and you can bet that now, once again the mantra of how supposedly peaceful Islam is will continue. And worse still, the attacks by the left against those who have always warned against Islam, will be angrier and merciless.
For now the German Islam supporters like never before have their backs against the wall.
Michael Mannheimer, 26.3.2015
Apparently from the comments at German PI Andreas Lubitz was Muslim convert from his Facebook page.
OK, the above now seems to have been disinformation, as I thought - but where it came from should be 'interesting'. I reset it in Comic Sans.
Now, some new 'hard' evidence. An official release by the German Police and Authorities on the 'items of interest' seized from the co-pilot's home[s] (he lived with his parents some and had his own flat too). It is in German [attached] if someone wants to give a precise translation. I read it to say that he had a medical condition [they do not name] that would have absolutely prohibited him from flying. He failed to report this and went on the flight - perhaps other earlier flights. They seem to feel the nature of the illness more than his failure to report it and fly links in with his later alleged actions; and they will have more to say when they complete analysis and gather more information on the illness, and him.
PLane carrying German passenger crashes in France - Albert Doyle - 27-03-2015
They can't post in public what the medical condition was due to privacy laws.
Starting to look like a final act against the company in fear of losing his job.