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The SS and FBI place 4 shots in and around Z313 - just not Z313 - Chris Davidson - 14-01-2016

In terms of elevation relating to CE884, for every entry subtract 3.27ft for the correct street elevation.

The example provided lists Z168 at elevation 429.25.

Subtract 3.27 ft from that elevation for an elevation of 425.98ft.

The 3.27ft difference is what the WC used for JFK'S head height above the pavement when he was shot in the head.

chris

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The SS and FBI place 4 shots in and around Z313 - just not Z313 - Chris Davidson - 14-01-2016

David Josephs Wrote:
Chris Davidson Wrote:Yes, we agree. 313 was not the last shot.

As far as I'm concerned, the Altgen's shot (JFK'S POSITION IN LIMO) at Station# 4+96.2 ( approx 31ft farther west than z313-Station#4+65.3) is the last shot with any supporting documentation.

David, you appear to make a differentiation between shots 2+3 per the SS and FBI. I do not.

The pylons represent the limo front whether it's the SS recreation film or WC298/FBI charts. imo

Two separate shots. imo

chris

That makes alot of sense Chris... even though the evidence makes it appear as if there are 4 different shots, not 2.

In either case, that shot is not in the evidence we now have yet MUST have been in the evidence at some point for the FBI and SS to come to such a conclusion and do everything they did to hide it.

Add Chaney's evidence to the mix and we now must set off on showing how and when these alterations were accomplished in the extent evidence.

Hiding it within the math was fairly easy once you know the front bumper/back bumper sleight of hand involved...

Thanks for all your input and help....
DJ

David,

Don't get me wrong, there quite possibly could have been more shots between these two locations, but the Altgen's shot is the most provable. imo

When you refer to "that shot" I assume you are speaking of the Altgen's shot =Station# 4+96.2.

In that regard, it is part of the documentation via the Dec5,1963 SS survey plat and Feb 1964 FBI survey plat, along with WC CE875 and WC298. Add a few eyewitness accounts too.

But, not necessarily in any of the videos available. Although, the stabilized gif of Altgens I supplied earlier shows greatly delayed reactions to a 313 shot, or, more realistically, a reaction to a shot as the limo nears Altgens.


The "how and when" would be nice to know, so as you move forward, I'll do what I can to help.

chris

The SS and FBI place 4 shots in and around Z313 - just not Z313 - David Josephs - 14-01-2016

I look forward to asking for your help... ::thumbsup::


What are your feelings about the Chaney incident as recalled by those in the lead car by Curry and Sorrels as well as Chaney himself...

Unless this happens well after McIntyre, which is not how the evidence reads, the extant record has no indication of that event...

Only Nix's film would have had a clear shot of it along with a piece of Bell... and we know what happened to Nix...

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The SS and FBI place 4 shots in and around Z313 - just not Z313 - Chris Davidson - 14-01-2016

I would suggest not veering off into the Chaney scenario at this time.

Any input from me is pure speculation.

Keep the stranglehold on WCD298 and other accompanying documents.

chris

The SS and FBI place 4 shots in and around Z313 - just not Z313 - Chris Davidson - 15-01-2016

More specs.

chris

The SS and FBI place 4 shots in and around Z313 - just not Z313 - Chris Davidson - 17-01-2016

The FBI location for the first shot based on early re-creations with distances provided.

In the gif I have provided, under the flashing red-line is another apparent LOS line from the Z pedestal, to the limo front end, traversing the Stemmons sign support post. This is the way I am interpreting it.

chris

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The SS and FBI place 4 shots in and around Z313 - just not Z313 - Chris Davidson - 17-01-2016

The attachment is from Tom Purvis.

The term "flat-line distance" refers to the distance from the (bottom of the TSBD snipers nest, out to the designated point of bullet impact on Elm St).

Or, in terms of the right-triangle diagrams previously provided, the "Base a" measurement.

chris

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The SS and FBI place 4 shots in and around Z313 - just not Z313 - Chris Davidson - 17-01-2016

Two different distance locations via the pylons for shot#1.

chris

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The SS and FBI place 4 shots in and around Z313 - just not Z313 - Chris Davidson - 18-01-2016

Chris Davidson Wrote:The attachment is from Tom Purvis.

The term "flat-line distance" refers to the distance from the (bottom of the TSBD snipers nest, out to the designated point of bullet impact on Elm St).

Or, in terms of the right-triangle diagrams previously provided, the "Base a" measurement.

chris

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More from Tom Purvis regarding shot#1.



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This flat-line distance equals JFK's position in extant zframe 207. If you look closely, it was labeled very lightly on the 1963SS/1964FBI plat.

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The SS and FBI place 4 shots in and around Z313 - just not Z313 - Chris Davidson - 18-01-2016

Chris Davidson Wrote:Two different distance locations via the pylons for shot#1.

chris

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The pylons set out for the 1st shot appear to be at approx extant z235 (Connally shot ?) and it's curbside counterpart at approx extant z255.

If you want to place the 1st pylon, use the lane markers between the two light posts for orientation purposes.

More than likely, the distance between the shot1 pylons is probably a representation of the limo front to limo rear span, with the back bumper (street pylon) representing JFK'S position in the limo. Same as the other pylons further down the street.

chris

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