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Germany/Switzerland-Death of Rainer Barschel 1987 in Geneva - David Guyatt - 18-09-2009 Carsten Wiethoff Wrote:Carsten Wiethoff Wrote:By the way, does anybody know the CIA cover name "Rabbi"? I think that a high ranking Mossad officer was called "Rabbi", any more details?I found out that at least in the literature the code name Rabbi is assigned to a "Ezra ben Ezra" of the Mossad. (Littells The Company mentions that for one). I believe you'll find that the word "Rabbi" is a generic insider term meaning handler. Germany/Switzerland-Death of Rainer Barschel 1987 in Geneva - Carsten Wiethoff - 18-09-2009 Quote:I believe you'll find that the word "Rabbi" is a generic insider term meaning handler.David, do you tell me that the CIA would call any handler "Rabbi" in a telegram to headquarters? I don't go for that. My current working hypothesis is that Rabbi is the CIA codeword for Yitzak Hofi (also Jitzhak Chofi or some variation). He was head of the Mossad and Director of Operations in 1978, at the time of Barschels death. [URL="http://correlator.sandbox.yahoo.net/index.php/events/Yitzhak+Hofi"]http://correlator.sandbox.yahoo.net/index.php/events/Yitzhak+Hofi [/URL] Germany/Switzerland-Death of Rainer Barschel 1987 in Geneva - Jan Klimkowski - 18-09-2009 David Guyatt Wrote:Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Carsten, my friend - Jane Ryder. It's all so tangled. Jane Ryder and Malachi Martin, of the Vatican Intelligence Service. Malachi Martin, the uber Exorcist, creator of powerful cultural memes for nefarious ends? Or a truly spiritual psychologist, committed to fighting Evil in this world? Jane Ryder and Allan Francovich, subversive documentary maker. Allan Francovich, the force behind the dangerous Gladio documentaries that somehow made it through to broadcast, and the Maltese Double Cross, before he was most probably assassinated. Jane Ryder and Oswald LeWinter, deep black whistleblower or hoaxer extraordinary? Oswald LeWinter, with whom Rayelan Russbacher claims to have had the following exchange: Quote:The first thing I said to LeWinter was, "Jane told me that she is a protege of Father Martin. She says he taught her everything she knows." http://www.rumormillnews.com/clyd.htm Jane Ryder and Gunther Russbacher, self-proclaimed pilot of the SR-71 Blackbird that took George Bush Sr to the crucial October Suprize meeting. Another excerpt from a Russbacher "biography", where the "beautiful young woman" is Jane Ryder: Quote:The ONI then had (Russbacher) orchestrate the transfer of gold from the Philippines to Austria, returning that country gold Hitler had seized in 1938. This was called Operation White Robe. When he completed it, General Hugh Shelton called Gunter to tell him he was reactivated. But he was sent to an Austrian prison for not paying a hotel bill. http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframes;read=140976 100% horseshit? 80%? 70%? A version of Russbacher was definitely in an Austrian prison, because I personally visited him there in 1996. Twice. In one of those visits, Russbacher told me what he claimed to know about Jonestown. On another, he told me about what he called Operation Open Eyes. I've also seen credible evidence that Mark Phillips, Cathy O'Brien's handler, was NSA. Oh what a tangled web we weave.... Germany/Switzerland-Death of Rainer Barschel 1987 in Geneva - Carsten Wiethoff - 19-09-2009 Carsten Wiethoff Wrote:My current working hypothesis is that Rabbi is the CIA codeword for Yitzak Hofi (also Jitzhak Chofi or some variation). He was head of the Mossad and Director of Operations in 1978, at the time of Barschels death. Sorry, I was confused. Barschel died on 10/11 October 1987, not 1978. At that time the head of the Mossad was Nachum Admoni. Still not sure about who was "Rabbi". Germany/Switzerland-Death of Rainer Barschel 1987 in Geneva - Carsten Wiethoff - 19-09-2009 Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Jane Ryder and Oswald LeWinter, deep black whistleblower or hoaxer extraordinary? It gets more tangled every minute. Oswald LeWinter is claimed to have testified under oath before the portuguese parliament that he was a CIA director and that the CIA has killed Olof Palme. I did not reearch that claim yet. Most likely the death of Alfred Herrhausen and Werner Blessing are also connected to this web, through Barschel and their Publication "Die internationale Verschuldungskrise", published by the Heinrich Dräger Stiftung. The Symposium on which these people spoke, was from 11.-13.11.1985. Herrhausen was head of Deutsche Bank, when he was killed allegedly by the RAF. The RAF has long been suspected to be a killer squad for foreign intelligence services. Carsten Germany/Switzerland-Death of Rainer Barschel 1987 in Geneva - Magda Hassan - 19-09-2009 Oswald Le Winter is a very interesting person and comes up in many events. I have yet to be sure what he is and who he works for though. There is a lot of disinfo around him and a lot of information also. Walk carefully here. Germany/Switzerland-Death of Rainer Barschel 1987 in Geneva - Carsten Wiethoff - 19-09-2009 Yeah, he is also starring on two of Allan Franokvich's films, whereas Jane Ryder coproduced some BBC documentary with Frankovich and is claimed to have had a romantic relation to him. Mata Hari, anyone? See http://e-zeecon.blogspot.com/2009/02/masonic-verses-part-v.html for some stuff around Lockerbie etc. Not checked, not endorsed, proceed at your own risk. Carsten Germany/Switzerland-Death of Rainer Barschel 1987 in Geneva - Helen Reyes - 19-09-2009 I seem to remember from the Napa Valley Sentinel that Russbacher had another name as well. Almost the same, and very German. I checked the NYT article cited and it didn't mean anything to me, just codewords for people and places. I would've guessed temple was an airport in Berlin, lokal was local station chief and rabbi was some sort of head of regional, or airport connection. None of which fits the situation. The secret supersonic aircraft served more than one purpose. It didn't have seats for secret service agents. Being classified, GHWB could keep the trip off his official record. GHWB never could account for his wherreabouts during the time of the (second?) Paris meeting. Webster Tarpley traces some of the circumstances in his unauthorized George Bush biography. You can find Tarpley's book at http://www.tarpley.net/bushb.htm ...I think he even has a chapter on October Surprise. Wait, no he doesn't. It's probably Chapter 16, Campaign 1980: http://www.tarpley.net/bush16.htm It fits Bush Sr.'s MO that he'd use his network to go around normal channels for getting to Paris. That network certainly includes Paperclip assets in aerospace. I believe the base for the plane was even classified back then. Forget which base, Dulce or Groom Lake or which. Bob Gates is definitely a Bush-man and was clearly involved in October Surprise in some capacity. He's one of those inner Bush-men the family gives nicknames, but can't remember his. All I ever knew about Malachi Martin was the stuff he used to do on Art Bell. He promised to reveal the last secret of Fatima or something. I think Bell said it something generic like "Fire everywhere." I knew Malachi's death caused a stir among the Art Bell team/community. In my mind it roughly corresponds to Heaven's Gate, although I guess Malachi was a little later. The SEAL mind control techniques sound a lot like what happened to Long John Nebel's girlfriend Candy Jones, former Miss New Jersey, who was sent to Hong Kong on an assassination iirc. She was roughly based near Massachusetts, in the Newark/New York area. The Control of Candy Jones http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candy_Jones The Control of Candy Jones (1976) byline Donald Bain http://www.donaldbain.com/the_cia_s_control_of_candy_jones_2921.htm It sounds like the person whose death you're interested in simply got bumped off for not playing Iran/Contra and for knowing too much about it. Stupid stuff. Like Napoleon destroying a castle because it gave him the willies, just a total waste. Dirk Stoffenberg sounds like a cut-out identity used by multiple people. Based on the surname von Stoffenberg of WWII perhaps. Francois could be a French agent using the name I suppose. btw the initials of the victim and the perp are the same in in the Truth and Reconciliation comish hearing cited. Dulcie September or something and Dirk S. Hope something in there helps. Your victim might've believed he was dealing with East Germans but was in fact dealing with CIA. Hard to say. Maybe both at once. Germany/Switzerland-Death of Rainer Barschel 1987 in Geneva - Carsten Wiethoff - 20-09-2009 Helen Reyes Wrote:Dirk Stoffenberg sounds like a cut-out identity used by multiple people. Based on the surname von Stoffenberg of WWII perhaps. Francois could be a French agent using the name I suppose. btw the initials of the victim and the perp are the same in in the Truth and Reconciliation comish hearing cited. Dulcie September or something and Dirk S.Helen, thanks for your input. Regarding Dirk Stoffberg, I definitely disagree with you. Dirk Stoffberg was initially South African SIS, later probably forced to work for CIA. He was last married to his seventh wife, Susanne, who was a German. Supposedly at that time Stoffberg was living under a false German name in Frankfurt/Main, from where he flew to Geneva two days before Barschel died. Earlier Stoffberg had been extradited under the charge by US "justice" from Germany to the US. The charge was trying to sell 1000 handguns to a sting man. Shock horror, a man arranging weapons deals in the billions with Iran, was selling 1000 handguns. This is what I call trumped up false charges. Allegedly the sting man that set him up was Tom/Thomas Sunde, the man later fingered by Stoffberg as the hit man on Barschel. This is what I call revenge. Graf Stauffenberg of WWII is a different thing. More later. Edit: Correction: I don't know that Sunde set up Stoffberg for extradition. I do know that Sunde tried to do that with Reiner Jacobi, also a very interesting man currently living in Australia. Jacobi was able to resist, with the help of his lawyer. Thomas Sunde is another interesting man. This reminds my of the story of Ari ben-Menashe as told in "Profits of War", which I am currently reading. I ordered it from amazon.com. This should be required reading in every history class covering the 20th century. Carsten Germany/Switzerland-Death of Rainer Barschel 1987 in Geneva - Carsten Wiethoff - 21-09-2009 That case really deserves a thread of its own. Thanks again, Helen, for bringing it up. The "doctor" who treated her was obviously this one: (from NYTimes) William S. Kroger, 89, Pioneer In Use of Hypnosis as Treatment By ROBERT McG. THOMAS Jr. Published: Thursday, December 7, 1995 Dr. William S. Kroger, a pioneer and longtime champion of the medical uses of hypnosis, died on Monday at Cedars Sinai Hospital in Los Angeles. He was 89 and lived in Los Angeles. A native of Chicago who obtained his medical training at Northwestern University, Dr. Kroger specialized in obstetrics, gynecology and endocrinology until he became intrigued by the psychosomatic causes of many illnesses he encountered. This, in turn, led him to become a psychiatrist and to use hypnosis to deal with the psychological components of many disorders, particularly the pain of child birth. At a time when hypnosis was regarded as little more than a potentially dangerous parlor trick, Dr. Kroger's extensive writings and demonstrations gradually won the confidence of the medical establishment. In one of his most dramatic demonstrations, captured on movie film, he removed a woman's thyroid gland while using hypnosis as the sole anesthesia. Upon being awakened after the surgery, the woman is seen getting up from the operating table and walking to her room. Partly as a result of Dr. Kroger's efforts, the American Medical Association embraced a limited use of hypnosis in 1958, declaring it a valid therapeutic modality when used by properly trained physicians. Dr. Kroger, who taught at the University of Illinois and the University of Chicago in the 1940's and 1950's, later moved to California, where he used hypnosis to help law-enforcement agencies. In one of his most dramatic successes, he used hypnosis in 1977 to help a school bus driver in Chowchilla, Calif., remember all but one digit of the license plate of a van used by three men who had abducted the driver and 26 children and buried them in a moving van 100 miles away. The information helped the Federal Bureau of Investigation identify and track down the kidnappers. Dr. Kroger is survived by his wife, Jimmy Louise; three daughters, Carol Kroger and Lisa Robin Eitani of Los Angeles and Debra Sue Lesser of Cresskill, N.J.; a son, William Jr., of Los Angeles, and four grandchildren. |