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Joseph Moshe? - Helen Reyes - 22-11-2009
Jan Klimkowski Wrote:If true, then Moshe may soon be having the electrodes attached to his skull, ready for the administration of a little shock therapy. Nothing like a little memory wipe to destroy the testimony of a problematic insider.
However, given Moshe's association with biological weapons and Mossad, it's unclear what's going on here.
Were Moshe's revelations a psyop gone wrong?
A genuine piece of whistleblowing?
The fabrication of a deluded individual?
Ladies and gentlemen - place your bets!
It happened so long ago now that the cattle prods were already used, cleaned, sheaved and shelved.
I think it's what it appears: whistleblowing.
Why? Because, as a Jew, he took "Never Again!" to heart, and acted.
His story checks out: he seems to be a real virologist, something did happen in Ukraine. Their story doesn't: he threatened the White House after making his claim on LA radio, reuqiring a large and expensive SWAT force to engage him in a public standoff for hours. Then he, a dual citizen, was "deported" to Israel.
Could this scenario be two horns of the same devil? Hard to imagine why the powers that be would want to strengthen the idea the swine flu was a bioweapon unleashed intentionally, and that alternative radio was getting the truth out.
Bet: he squealed and will remain in a padded room for much of the rest of his life. His days will end in his tragic death, an accident, having fallen down a flight of stairs.
Joseph Moshe? - Peter Lemkin - 22-11-2009
A dual [USA - Whatever] citizen can NOT be deported! How this happened [if it did] doesn't follow legal procedure - quite the opposite! Not that that ever stopped the Thugs before in the Secret Government!...
Joseph Moshe? - Helen Reyes - 22-11-2009
Peter Lemkin Wrote:A dual [USA - Whatever] citizen can NOT be deported! How this happened [if it did] doesn't follow legal procedure - quite the opposite! Not that that ever stopped the Thugs before in the Secret Government!...
Right, because if he were charged with a crime in the US as a US citizen he would stay in the US. They'd have to drop all charges, strip him of US citizenship and bundle him off to Israel in a matter of days. Abolishing US citizenship has some precedent in certain Nazi war crime cases, but it takes a long time, and it's inevitably based on the applicant for US citizenship having lied about his past on the application for visa, residency or citizenship.
According to the infowars article I pasted in above, they stuck him in the booby hatch in California somewhere. Would be interesting to know whether it's one of those special hospitals that were/are involved in MKULTRA experiments.
http://pimpinturtle.com/2009/11/18/joseph-moshe-update-november-18-2009.aspx
Quote:JOSEPH MOSHE UPDATE: November 18, 2009
RELATED: THE STRANGE CASE OF JOSEPH MOSHE
According to Europe Business Blog: "Joseph Moshe, the dual national (Israeli-American) Mossad biowar expert, who was attacked and seized by Federal Agents and LAPD in mid-August in California, after speaking to Dr. True Ott on his national radio show and warning of a plot by Baxter International to spread a Plague from Baxter's Ukrainian lab, IS BEING HELD IN THE PATTON STATE MENTAL HOSPITAL IN CALIFORNIA. Next Court Date is 01/25/2010............
.......start contacting everyone you can in the California Governor's office, the Lt. Governor's office, the Attorney General's office and members of the California General Assembly. Call/fax/email them and demand that this man be released and be available for public interviews; demand that there be an open and public investigation as to why he was arrested and is being held. Your life and the lives of your family may be at stake here..........."
Posted by PIMPIN TURTLE at 11/18/2009 4:17 PM
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Joseph Moshe? - David Guyatt - 23-11-2009
Is he being held in California or has he been deported?
Yours in confusion,
David
Joseph Moshe? - Jan Klimkowski - 23-11-2009
Helen Reyes Wrote:It happened so long ago now that the cattle prods were already used, cleaned, sheaved and shelved.
I think it's what it appears: whistleblowing.
Why? Because, as a Jew, he took "Never Again!" to heart, and acted.
His story checks out: he seems to be a real virologist, something did happen in Ukraine. Their story doesn't: he threatened the White House after making his claim on LA radio, reuqiring a large and expensive SWAT force to engage him in a public standoff for hours. Then he, a dual citizen, was "deported" to Israel.
Could this scenario be two horns of the same devil? Hard to imagine why the powers that be would want to strengthen the idea the swine flu was a bioweapon unleashed intentionally, and that alternative radio was getting the truth out.
Bet: he squealed and will remain in a padded room for much of the rest of his life. His days will end in his tragic death, an accident, having fallen down a flight of stairs.
Helen et al - what precisely is the evidence of Moshe's alleged Mossad connections?
And what precisely do we believe the claim that Moshe has "Mossad traning in biological warfare" (from earlier in thread) amounts to?
I took a look at his published work, much of which relates to citrus tristeza:
Quote:Citrus tristeza virus (CTV) is viral species of the Closterovirus genus that causes the most economically damaging disease to its namesake plant genus, Citrus. The disease has led to the death of millions of Citrus trees all over the world and has rendered other millions useless for production. Farmers in Brazil and other South American countries gave it the name "tristeza", meaning sadness in Portuguese and Spanish, referring to the devastation produced by the disease in the 1930s.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citrus_tristeza_virus
Of course, biowarfare research tends not to be published in the open literature....
Joseph Moshe? - Helen Reyes - 23-11-2009
Heck, I'm confused now too. I'm not even sure the citrus virus specialist is the same guy who was arrested in California, who might or might not be Mossad and may or may not be in a mental hospital in California.
I went through the links and info listed in that last blog and everything seems to be pure speculation. For example, the posters say Moshe in his car got microwaved by the special forces, but the "antenna" in the photos looks to me more like the hatch for an APC, not an antenna. WHy is he Mossad? He probably told Dr. Ott he was. The story on the phone call is garbled too, Dr. Ott didn't take the call on-air it seems, but told ANOTHER Republican Radio host on air ABOUT the call (or something), and GCN internet radio hosts Dr. Bill Deagle and Mike Rivero then got wind of it and talked about it on their shows on the day the special forces took Moshe into custody. I think.
It does seem like someone is "sending signals" and dead-agenting Moshe in the US media, but it's hard to say.
The only thing I can think is maybe the CALIFORNIA Moshe is the son of the ISRAEL Moshe. I guess we could try to call him and ask
(and I bet no one has even bothered yet....)Quote:Moshe Bar Joseph, Prof. (Retiree)
Plant Protection, Plant Pathology and Weed Research
Telephone Tel: +97289350823
Cellphone Cell: +972509350823
Fax Fax: + 97289352826
Email Email: mbjoseph@gmail.com
Office location: Bet Dagan
Dept of Plant Pathology and Weed Research
ARO, The Volcani Center
Bet Dagan 50250
ISRAEL
Research Interests / Job description
Management and control of virus and virus like disease agents of subtropical fruit trees, with special emphasis on citrus.
Certification programs, nursery propagation methods and modern cultivation practices of citrus & subtropical fruit trees .
Eradication policies and practices of potentialy epidemic disease agents of fruit trees.
Phytoplasma, Spiroplasma and insect vectored disease agents of citrus and subtropical fruit trees
Molecular characterization and evolution of Closteroviridae and of viroid disease agents.
Methods of pathogen detection and elimination.
Transgenic plants (citrus) and rapid propagation technologies.
Personal:
1972 Ph.D. Hebrew University, Jerusalem
1984 Researcher, Grade A+ (equivalent to Professor, Dept of Virology, ARO, The Volcani Research Center, Bet Dagan
1983-1984 Head of Department of Plant Pathology, Volcani Center
1995-1986 Head of Department of Plant Virology, Volcani Center
1994 -2004 Professor (Adjunct) Department of Life Sciences, Ben-Gurion University, Beer Sheva.
1996-1997 Scientific Director, The Gilat Experiment Station, Northern Negev.
1986-2004 Founder and Head of the S. Tolkowsky Laboratory for Citrus Disease Research. ARO, Volcani Research Center, Bet Dagan
2004, 1st of September, Retired Officially after 39.5 years of service.
Supervision of Graduate Students
Since 1982, I served as an indepedent supervisor of PhD students from the Faculty of Agriculture Rehovot, The Hebrew University , Jerusalem. In total 11 M.Sc. and 9 Ph.D. Students, have completed their degrees under my supervision.
Awards
1980 The Lee Hutchins award, The American Phytopathology Society
1996 Elected, Scientist of the Year, Agricultural Research Organization, Israel
PS Plant viruses are very differnt from animal viruses and I doubt there would be much cross-over applicability to germ warfare, with the exception of agents for crop destruction.
PPS I believe that the United States does not treat consulates as sovereign foreign territory, although embassies are considered such. It would be the wrong place for Moshe to seek asylum/sanctuary, but he might have wanted to talk to someone there anyway. And I could be wrong about the status of consulates in the USA.
Joseph Moshe? - Danny Jarman - 14-11-2011
What ever happened to this story? Vanished into the mist...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1Bx6itpiBA
Joseph Moshe? - Peter Lemkin - 14-11-2011
That would make an interesting list of 'stories made to vanish'! Few of them deserved to vanish.....rather, the powers that be wanted them to!......and the MSM obediently let them just......disappear, along with those involved, their motives, deeds and connections, etc. Its a magician's trick. Some were invented theater pieces from the start, others the real deal but never to see the light of 'day'.
hutup: